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jjeckelxz5 · 02-28-2011, 05:27 PM

i'm interested in the borla s-type catback and slp loudmouth axle back.

The axle back is much cheaper and i like the sound a little better of the loudmouth. What are the benefits of going with a full catback like the borla s-type over an axle back? performance? sound note?

sfgiantsfan9 · 02-28-2011, 10:57 PM

No measurable power gains have been measured by going with the catback which gives you the x pipe to replace the h pipe. Some people prefer the sound of an x pipe though. I myself prefer an h pipe sound.

n116ebo · 03-01-2011, 07:24 AM

I have the borla "s" axleback with cai inc. the rest stock. Bought the borla for price ( I am too cheap to buy catback) The borla "s" axleback is a real improvement in sound and less weight than oem. The borla "s" has a deep rumble at idle.

jjeckelxz5 · 03-01-2011, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by n116ebo

I have the borla "s" axleback with cai inc. the rest stock. Bought the borla for price ( I am too cheap to buy catback) The borla "s" axleback is a real improvement in sound and less weight than oem. The borla "s" has a deep rumble at idle.

do you have any sound clips?

IronMike · 03-01-2011, 04:18 PM

here are the video and sound clips...
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21289

Pepe Le Pew · 06-29-2011, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n116ebo

I have the borla "s" axleback with cai inc. the rest stock. Bought the borla for price ( I am too cheap to buy catback) The borla "s" axleback is a real improvement in sound and less weight than oem. The borla "s" has a deep rumble at idle.

Bonjour,
I am considering your exact set up. Please if I may ask you some questions?
1- How much different is Borla "s" axleback back vs stock?
2- Did you install axleback before CAI if so did CAI make a differences in exhaust sound?
3- Do you think ATAK axleback is much more aggressive vs "S"

Merci in advance for your response.
Also anyone's input is much appreciated.

Pharmaro · 06-29-2011, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pepe Le Pew

Bonjour,
I am considering your exact set up. Please if I may ask you some questions?
1- How much different is Borla "s" axleback back vs stock?
2- Did you install axleback before CAI if so did CAI make a differences in exhaust sound?
3- Do you think ATAK axleback is much more aggressive vs "S"

Merci in advance for your response.
Also anyone's input is much appreciated.

nancygrl · 06-29-2011, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjeckelxz5

i'm interested in the borla s-type catback and slp loudmouth axle back.

The axle back is much cheaper and i like the sound a little better of the loudmouth. What are the benefits of going with a full catback like the borla s-type over an axle back? performance? sound note?

There won't be any noticable performance gains, but it will change the exhaust sound. The main difference is with the catback it's unbolt the stock stuff and bolt-on the catback, basically plug n play. Where as with an axleback you have to cut the stock exhaust pipe at certain spot and then bolt-on the new parts. The axleback will be cheaper due to fewer parts.

chris1973 · 06-29-2011, 02:53 PM

Cat Back Cherry Bomb Extreme $400.00
Discussion and pics:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142477

VIdeo:

Blk'dOutSS · 06-30-2011, 04:46 AM

I had similar questions as late. I'm looking at the ATAK or S as well. I have seen tons of clips of both in axel and cat? It's only about $100 difference between the 2. I keep looking at the $600 difference in price between the axel and cat. The performance is identical. I am debating on going with full cat which is bolt and comes with the x-pipe or going with the axel and having a x-pipe made for cheaper than the cat. My question is, if I have an x-pipe made will the sound, performance and quality be different due to the axel cutting into factory and a different x-pipe made than what the catback would be?

dmwhiteman · 06-30-2011, 07:56 AM

This past weekend at Carlisle a Camaro next to me went from stock to borla s with vararam intake. Boy does that baby sound good. I have the slp axle back and do like the sound, but it does need the h-x pipe and resonator delete. For the price difference i say go axle back.

mclark10 · 06-30-2011, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blk'dOutSS

I had similar questions as late. I'm looking at the ATAK or S as well. I have seen tons of clips of both in axel and cat? It's only about $100 difference between the 2. I keep looking at the $600 difference in price between the axel and cat. The performance is identical. I am debating on going with full cat which is bolt and comes with the x-pipe or going with the axel and having a x-pipe made for cheaper than the cat. My question is, if I have an x-pipe made will the sound, performance and quality be different due to the axel cutting into factory and a different x-pipe made than what the catback would be?

I would check with some real gear heads before making your own X-pipe. The design and location could be the difference between gaining power and actually losing power.

Pharmaro · 06-30-2011, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blk'dOutSS

I had similar questions as late. I'm looking at the ATAK or S as well. I have seen tons of clips of both in axel and cat? It's only about $100 difference between the 2. I keep looking at the $600 difference in price between the axel and cat. The performance is identical. I am debating on going with full cat which is bolt and comes with the x-pipe or going with the axel and having a x-pipe made for cheaper than the cat. My question is, if I have an x-pipe made will the sound, performance and quality be different due to the axel cutting into factory and a different x-pipe made than what the catback would be?

I was on Borla's website and I was thinking of just doing the axleback for now, and then buying their x-pipe later as it is available by it's lonesome. Of course, then in the long run you're looking at probably paying more than the catback system would be up front.

This is the most difficult decision (exhaust) I've had to make in a long time, but I'll take these type of difficult decisions anyday

brantley847 · 06-30-2011, 10:08 AM

check pricing on marylandspeed.com ....they ran a few package deals with borla when I got my Borla S type...

-I went axle back first - nice, immediate sound improvement over stock. No drone...

-Then S type Cat back - slightly deeper tone, but improvement in HP was little to none. Very, very minor drone

-Lastly I did, CAI intake, S type, plus Kooks headers - Best damn sound I have ever heard. Mild drone at 70mph on the highway...

...decision to purchase borla is my best decision to date as far as audible TONE. As far as volume... obviously that is due to the headers.

Dynomax Exhaust · 06-30-2011, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mclark10

I would check with some real gear heads before making your own X-pipe. The design and location could be the difference between gaining power and actually losing power.

Here is a little info on X-pipes for you.
Good luck.

Blk'dOutSS · 06-30-2011, 04:19 PM

Great information. I think ill go catback due to not only the dual cutting that will be required for axel and to add x-pipe but to ensure better performance.

axis · 06-30-2011, 08:23 PM

You can pick up a Magnaflow True X pipe for around $75 and weld it in the place of the H pipe. If you're haveing a shop put the axleback on, they would probably add the X pipe for not a lot more. That's considerably cheaper than $600 more for the catback.

Dynomax Exhaust · 06-30-2011, 08:59 PM

Another option is to try our systems and if you don't like it in the first 90 days return it for a refund.

02-28-2011, 05:27 PM	#1
jjeckelxz5 Drives: 2011 Comaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: IL. Posts: 68	axle back vs catback i'm interested in the borla s-type catback and slp loudmouth axle back. The axle back is much cheaper and i like the sound a little better of the loudmouth. What are the benefits of going with a full catback like the borla s-type over an axle back? performance? sound note?

06-30-2011, 07:56 AM	#11
dmwhiteman Drives: 2SS Black w/ Inferno Orange Stripes Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: PA Posts: 564 View My Garage	This past weekend at Carlisle a Camaro next to me went from stock to borla s with vararam intake. Boy does that baby sound good. I have the slp axle back and do like the sound, but it does need the h-x pipe and resonator delete. For the price difference i say go axle back. __________________ Black Widow 2ss/RS

06-30-2011, 10:08 AM	#14
brantley847 v It bites. Drives: 2011 IBM 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2008 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,382	check pricing on marylandspeed.com ....they ran a few package deals with borla when I got my Borla S type... -I went axle back first - nice, immediate sound improvement over stock. No drone... -Then S type Cat back - slightly deeper tone, but improvement in HP was little to none. Very, very minor drone -Lastly I did, CAI intake, S type, plus Kooks headers - Best damn sound I have ever heard. Mild drone at 70mph on the highway... ...decision to purchase borla is my best decision to date as far as audible TONE. As far as volume... obviously that is due to the headers. __________________ 2011 2SS/RS Performance: 439 RWHP A6: 226/236 Comp Cam, Kooks 1-7/8, CAInc, Borla S type, FTI Converter, Vmax TB, Rx Catch Can, Trans cooler, SLP 160 termo, Melling high volume, Eibach Springs/Sways 1" drop, Whiteline complete bushing kit. Appearance:Smoked side markers and black bowties. Blk / Blue Carbon Fiber interior trim. Next in order: F14s, 3.70 gears, DSS Axles, End links/Toe rods/trailing arms, Ported heads, S/C. 1100 7/02 Ordered 3800 8/09 Order produced 4200 8/13 Shipped 6000 8/24 HOME!

06-30-2011, 08:23 PM	#17
axis Search Ninja Drives: 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Ark Posts: 4,727	You can pick up a Magnaflow True X pipe for around $75 and weld it in the place of the H pipe. If you're haveing a shop put the axleback on, they would probably add the X pipe for not a lot more. That's considerably cheaper than $600 more for the catback. __________________ 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Halltech Yellowjacket fed Kooks LT's/ Dynomax VT Pfadted (springs/sways) Aint nobody got time for that

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Blk'dOutSS Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS/Interior Trim Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 63	I had similar questions as late. I'm looking at the ATAK or S as well. I have seen tons of clips of both in axel and cat? It's only about $100 difference between the 2. I keep looking at the $600 difference in price between the axel and cat. The performance is identical. I am debating on going with full cat which is bolt and comes with the x-pipe or going with the axel and having a x-pipe made for cheaper than the cat. My question is, if I have an x-pipe made will the sound, performance and quality be different due to the axel cutting into factory and a different x-pipe made than what the catback would be?

06-30-2011, 04:19 PM	#16
Blk'dOutSS Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS/Interior Trim Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 63	Great information. I think ill go catback due to not only the dual cutting that will be required for axel and to add x-pipe but to ensure better performance.

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Dynomax Exhaust Drives: Camaro Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: MI Posts: 156	Another option is to try our systems and if you don't like it in the first 90 days return it for a refund.