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Old 02-28-2011, 09:17 PM   #1
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Let's Talk Injectors, Injector Dynamics

I have been tuning EFI cars as long as there has been tuning software and Engines in general since I was a Kid, and that's a long Time Ago LOL

I came across a company called Injector Dynamics I researched the company and feel like I struck Gold after using them in several of our builds.

http://injectordynamics.com/

I have been using the ID-850 which flow around 900 cc at 58 PSI and the ID-1000 which fit the KB cars Tall injectors which also flow 1050 cc at 58 psi.

Injector dynamics provides us with critical injector data which makes tuning a Dream come true.

Never before have we had large injectors with Accurate Injector Data.

The control and atomization that these injectors have make starting and Idling problem a thing of the past with large injectors.

Driveability and Throttle response are amazing.

These injectors seem expensive at first but once you understand what your buying the price no longer seems expensive.

This is Truly an example of you get what you pay for.

Check them out, I fully Endorse these injectors.

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Old 02-28-2011, 09:31 PM   #2
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Good info Ted.

We use a similar Co out of Atlanta. I just went to the injector dynamics site and they really lay it out so the layman can understand it.
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Tracy, I went and read all about it to. Makes you wonder why all the injector companies don't do this. Then Ted enligthened me as to what it takes to be able to. I have these in my car right now and it made a world of difference!
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Old 03-01-2011, 01:11 AM   #4
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We have used these in our N/A drag engines for a while now. Really good stuff. Tuning with Motec M800 is very accurate.
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It would blow your mind if you knew what the ID850's were.
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Old 03-01-2011, 06:03 AM   #6
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Have you ever run the 2,000s?
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Old 03-01-2011, 08:13 AM   #7
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Have you ever run the 2,000s?
No not yet, just the 850s and 1000s
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It would blow your mind if you knew what the ID850's were.
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Take a real close look at them. You are a smart man you can figure it out.
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I haven't looked at the injectors close, but I did pick up a set from Ted and I will be getting my vehicle back today (at least I hope) from getting several mods done. I will have an update on the injectors soon.

Ted - If you find out what they are please let me know. Bosch comes to mind, but I could be totally way off course.
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I'm having a cam put in very soon. In order to help with the increased hp, my shop is going to take the 52# injectors that came with my TVS2300 and have them modified to make 65# injectors. They said they have great success with this method and will save me some money. Should I be rethinking this strategy and go with the ID-850 injectors instead. My car will be around 550 rwhp (L99) when the cam goes in.

If I should get the ID-850 injectors, what specs should I get? I see they have several options to chose from when ordering.

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I'm having a cam put in very soon. In order to help with the increased hp, my shop is going to take the 52# injectors that came with my TVS2300 and have them modified to make 65# injectors. They said they have great success with this method and will save me some money. Should I be rethinking this strategy and go with the ID-850 injectors instead. My car will be around 550 rwhp (L99) when the cam goes in.

If I should get the ID-850 injectors, what specs should I get? I see they have several options to chose from when ordering.

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Not to take anything away from your shop but when you modify any injector it changes the flow dynamics of the injectors and unless someone Like Injectors Dynamics tests them and creates all the Proper injector data it will be just like tuning any of the other injectors on the market that don't come with any GM Data, just an educated guess at the data.

Once your tuner uses a set of these injectors he will never go back, I know I won't, as long as there is a choice that fits our needs.

I stock the direct replacements for your application.

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Ted:
Thanks for your thoughtful and expert advice.

Please PM me a price for the injectors you recommend for my car.

I have an L99 with Magnuson TVS2300 (500 rwhp right now). The car will be getting a cam next week and should be around 550 rwhp then.

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Thanks for your thoughtful and expert advice.

Which options do I need to get? There are options for injector length, Lower O ring, and connectors.

I have an L99 with Magnuson TVS2300. The car will be getting a cam next week.

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Your welcome, Just go to my site and order ID-850's they are direct drop in for a Maggie.

Have your tuner email me and I will send him over the data for the injectors.

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How about an injector for a 416 NA stroker? which one would you recommend sir?
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I'm having a cam put in very soon. In order to help with the increased hp, my shop is going to take the 52# injectors that came with my TVS2300 and have them modified to make 65# injectors. They said they have great success with this method and will save me some money. Should I be rethinking this strategy and go with the ID-850 injectors instead. My car will be around 550 rwhp (L99) when the cam goes in.

If I should get the ID-850 injectors, what specs should I get? I see they have several options to chose from when ordering.

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Drilled injectors are snake oil. Yes, they flow more, but the voltage offset and short pulse adder data will change... which the drilling companies will claim doesn't change.

Injector Dynamics is the way to go. The control over fueling at low load scenarios is unbelievable. The ID1000s have no problem idling with a 0.7ms pulse width.
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The ID-850's are the only drop in for the Very short stock injectors.

The ID-725s would be a good choice but they will require Fuel rail spacers as they are Longer 48mm oring to oring

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The ID-850's are the only drop in for the Very short stock injectors.

The ID-725s would be a good choice but they will require Fuel rail spacers as they are Longer 48mm oring to oring

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Pretty much. The ID850s for an L99/LS3 application end up a few dollars cheaper, too. They also won't have any trouble with idling fueling, so there's no need to try and run the smaller injector.
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Dang... You guys have me pumped up so I can't wait to get my car back today so see how great these injectors are..
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Pretty much. The ID850s for an L99/LS3 application end up a few dollars cheaper, too. They also won't have any trouble with idling fueling, so there's no need to try and run the smaller injector.
Good Point, and Thanks for Turning me on to Injector Dynamics.

I was going to mention it in the first post but your screen name keeps changing
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To the rest of the community, don't let the price of IDs scare you away. You get what you pay for. As a tuner, I grow REALLY tired of people buying whatever random injectors they find because they got a good deal... only to come back later and bitch when the car has drivability concerns, even on mild setups. Your tuner will thank you, and so will your car, especially when you get even, accurate fueling all the time. When you're spending enough money to warrant injectors that large... spend the extra $500 and get injectors that will handle the task at hand.
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Good technical info. We have been using Injector Dynamic's pieces for a few years now and are a stocking distributor for most of their products....tossing a set in a 2010SS this week actually

There is a lot of information, of poor information on the internet about some of these injectors being unmodified Bosch unit's or cut/modded Bosch unit's. Plain and simple, Injector Dynamic's not only modifies these different than others and is the only company capable of providing the necessary data to tune these properly. There are other injector companies or clinics who claim to sell the same thing a lot cheaper but fail to provide the support for their product.

The data of the injector is almost as important, if not more important, than the operation of the injector themselves. As it was mentioned earlier, because we can control injector dead times and have the data there is no real reason to run the smaller injector and a spacer. The 850's will be PERFECT
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850's enough for 750 RWHP?
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