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Old 03-01-2011, 11:52 AM   #1
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Tanneau cover nearly took flight today...

Had my vert for 4 days now... hadn't put the top UP since the dealer and I lowered it and installed the (cheap, worthless) tanneau cover before leaving the lot. I Have put 150 miles on the car, mostly driving around town. I hit the hwy this morning and noticed the tanneau cover gettig "wind ripples" near the center as I cruised through.mornig rushhour at 75 mph...then suddenly- pop, there goes one side snap (mind you, there's only 2), and the covers loose and flappin!!! I immediately slowed, got to the shoulder and put it back in place... this is NOT a good sign.

Im gonna contact GM today and let them.know... if ANYONE else is experiencing similar issues, please do the same. These coveres appear very cheaply made and horribly secured. Perhaps if enough people.complain, we can get a recall and a redesign!
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Old 03-01-2011, 12:02 PM   #2
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That's not good. On a brighter note, can you post some pics of your vert
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Old 03-01-2011, 12:13 PM   #3
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Drago- Thanks for posting up your convertible findings on tonneau and exhaust. Part curse, part blessing going first. I am annoyed with tonneau based on your review because I really like the way it smooths out and cleans up all the mechanicals there.

We'll see where this goes by the time I get mine.
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wow thats messed.
This thread needs new pics of your VERT!!!!
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Old 03-01-2011, 12:26 PM   #5
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Old 03-01-2011, 12:35 PM   #6
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Get a GoPro Camera, suction cup mount it to the windshield inside the car facing backwards and retry the experiment.

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Old 03-01-2011, 12:43 PM   #7
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Get a Robbins Tonneau

I lived across the street from Stan Robbins for 30 years until he passed away last fall. They make the best replacement tops, tonneaus, and interior mods, bar none. His son Randy now runs the operation in SoCal and I'm sure they have a website. Go to something like Robbins Auto Tops .com

http://www.robbinsautotop.com/index.php

Found it.

edit. Just talked to Doug Robbins. They don't plan to make a tonneau for the Camaro vert. He said that to make it tight and secure they would have to drill fours holes in the dash and a hole on both sides near the mirror, and that nobody wants to have that done so they shelved plans for that. However, he did say that if you don't mind the holes and paying at least a grand, he will recommend shops that can do that very well. If you're interested, call him. His number is on the website.

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Old 03-01-2011, 01:22 PM   #8
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After talking with Al Oppenheiser at the chicago auto show, he said that they had a fleet of vert camaros for testing and that all had plenty of testing miles on them, after all that I can't believe that none of the testers had this same problem,
I am not doubting it happened to you I am just wondering if you didn't secured the tonneau correctly.
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Old 03-01-2011, 01:46 PM   #9
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Does the factory vert come with a tonneau?

I'm talking about a real tonneau, not just some cover for the top when it's down. Were I to buy a vert, a full tonneau would be a must. Otherwise you have bird crap, and a-holes of all kinds to deal with. Saw a guy pitch a empty soda cup into a Stang the other day.
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Old 03-01-2011, 01:55 PM   #10
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Had my vert for 4 days now... hadn't put the top UP since the dealer and I lowered it and installed the (cheap, worthless) tanneau cover before leaving the lot. I Have put 150 miles on the car, mostly driving around town. I hit the hwy this morning and noticed the tanneau cover gettig "wind ripples" near the center as I cruised through.mornig rushhour at 75 mph...then suddenly- pop, there goes one side snap (mind you, there's only 2), and the covers loose and flappin!!! I immediately slowed, got to the shoulder and put it back in place... this is NOT a good sign.

Im gonna contact GM today and let them.know... if ANYONE else is experiencing similar issues, please do the same. These coveres appear very cheaply made and horribly secured. Perhaps if enough people.complain, we can get a recall and a redesign!
Question: When you put the tonneau cover on - did you attach the "forks" (for lack of a better term) that fasten to the bolts on the rear seat cross-member?
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That's not a tonneau

Don't care what GM calls it, it's a convetible top cover. There's a market for real tonneaus when these things really start getting out there.
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Old 03-01-2011, 02:32 PM   #12
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Was there any reason the top cover could not be hinged like the 3rd gens. That type would look and function much better.
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Old 03-01-2011, 03:40 PM   #13
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Did the dealer install the posts correctly that those little fork clips go on? Should have been two posts included with the cover, and those posts are dealer installed. There is a bulletin showing how those posts have to be installed, and the plastic corner trim sitting over the cloth trim near the post. Is your cloth trim tucked under the plastic corner trim near the posts? It should be.
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Old 03-01-2011, 03:45 PM   #14
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Before everyone dumps their GM stock , lets look at this objectively...

I suspect GM would have tested this, so it's probably not a design flaw. Which leaves two possibilities: user error (dealer or owner), or quality control issue. If its a quality issue, it would be the equivalent of the coupe's spoiler coming loose and flapping around - not a likely scenario given GM new found ability to build quality cars.
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Old 03-01-2011, 04:07 PM   #15
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I'm talking about a real tonneau, not just some cover for the top when it's down. Were I to buy a vert, a full tonneau would be a must. Otherwise you have bird crap, and a-holes of all kinds to deal with. Saw a guy pitch a empty soda cup into a Stang the other day.
I don't understand why people leave their top down while their vehicle is unattended.
I have owned two convertibles and it doesn't take long to close and open, and back then it was all manual!

1) why leave your nice leather baking in the sun?
2) why give an open invitation to a-holes like you mentioned to vandalize your car?
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Old 03-01-2011, 04:52 PM   #16
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eggydoo-good post

I am an old fart and the last vert I had was in the late 70's. Putting the top up was a pita so a good, full cover, simple to operate tonneau was a must. Probably modern tops are much easier to operate. Maybe even easier than zipping up a tonneau and snapping a couple of buttons on the dash. My age is showing.
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Old 03-01-2011, 05:21 PM   #17
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I'm talking about a real tonneau, not just some cover for the top when it's down. Were I to buy a vert, a full tonneau would be a must. Otherwise you have bird crap, and a-holes of all kinds to deal with. Saw a guy pitch a empty soda cup into a Stang the other day.
You mean this?
This sounds like what you are talking about, I had never seen anything like this but it looks really goofy.
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Old 03-01-2011, 05:24 PM   #18
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After talking with Al Oppenheiser at the chicago auto show, he said that they had a fleet of vert camaros for testing and that all had plenty of testing miles on them, after all that I can't believe that none of the testers had this same problem,
I am not doubting it happened to you I am just wondering if you didn't secured the tonneau correctly.
Took one of those to Florida over Thanksgiving. It takes just a bit of practice to get it on right. But if you have the two front clips properly secured, and yes it takes some practice because the two buttons are down low and not easy to see, and if you have it tucked in on both sides and along the back so the edges of the cover aren't exposed, there should be no way it could get air under it.

That being said, it could/should be easier to install. But with practice I was able to get it on and off, securely and easily.

But as Fbodfather suggests, it is possible your dealer didn't install the buttons correctly and the top wasn't well secured regardless of what you did.

But to get it installed, I found tucking in the sides and back first then flipping the leading edge down and buttoning the clips down to be the easiest way to get it on.

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Before everyone dumps their GM stock , lets look at this objectively...

I suspect GM would have tested this, so it's probably not a design flaw. Which leaves two possibilities: user error (dealer or owner), or quality control issue. If its a quality issue, it would be the equivalent of the coupe's spoiler coming loose and flapping around - not a likely scenario given GM new found ability to build quality cars.
Never had a problem with a week of top down driving. And to give it a proper evaluation, I had the cover on and off all that week.
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Old 03-01-2011, 05:34 PM   #19
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You mean this?
This sounds like what you are talking about, I had never seen anything like this but it looks really goofy.
If that's not the height of 'coolness', then I don't know what is....
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SUX2bu= Do live in some poverty belt?

Every super car ragtop, Ferrari, Porsche, Maserati, Lambo come with tonneaus that look exactly like. You want bird shit on your leather seats. Be my guest
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Just my .02 but before you call for a recall and re-design, have you made sure it was correctly installed? I find it hard to believe that with all of the testing the "75mph normal driving" test wasn't included.
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Every super car ragtop, Ferrari, Porsche, Maserati, Lambo come with tonneaus that look exactly like. You want bird shit on your leather seats. Be my guest
No need to be a smart ass, I just have no idea what you are talking about. Maybe you could post a pic.

I googled "convertible full tonneau" and these are the only pictures that came up that would cover your seats and prevent people throwing trash in your car and bird shit like you said.
Looks like it would just be easier and better looking to put your top up.
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Sorry I was smart ass, but--

You posted a picture of a blue roadster with a classic tonneau, then you posted another one with some kind of mickey mouse cover. Keep you eyes open when you see ragtop cars and sooner or later you'll see a car with a full tonneau. I just ran up to the store and in the parking lot was a new,paper plates, Ferrari with a tonneau just like the one on the blue roadster, but it was weather treated tan leather and fit like a freakin glove. Not goofy, just very cool.
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You posted a picture of a blue roadster with a classic tonneau, then you posted another one with some kind of mickey mouse cover. Keep you eyes open when you see ragtop cars and sooner or later you'll see a car with a full tonneau. I just ran up to the store and in the parking lot was a new,paper plates, Ferrari with a tonneau just like the one on the blue roadster, but it was weather treated tan leather and fit like a freakin glove. Not goofy, just very cool.
I think i now know what you are talking about. Like on this car http://californiaclassix.com/archive...Elan_c128.html
I google imaged "Ferrari full tonneau cover" and still couldn't find a picture of one on a Ferrari. I have loved convertibles since I had my first one in high school 13 years ago and always every time I see a nice looking one but I can honestly say I have never seen one of these covers. From what I just read it seems like a great idea for cars that have a removable one piece hard top you can't take with you or an old car that is a huge pain to put the top up. With the 20 seconds it takes to put the top up I guess i just don't see the draw on these cars.
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