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Old 02-11-2009, 06:52 PM   #51
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I saw your post, Tag, and that's barely a delay at all, except maybe to those that haven't waited X years.




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Old 02-11-2009, 07:13 PM   #52
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Huh???? This is old news!!!
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If this is all true..why were no constraints announced last week?
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..called the dealer today (wed feb, 11 2009) and asked him about my cyber g being delayed, he didn't hear anything about it he said. He said the order went through. So guys what the heck is going on?????
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:16 AM   #57
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..called the dealer today (wed feb, 11 2009) and asked him about my cyber g being delayed, he didn't hear anything about it he said. He said the order went through. So guys what the heck is going on?????
They probably accepted the order, but are going to prioritize it in such a way that it won't be built till mid April at the earliest because of the Cyber Gray. Contrary to common sense, this ordering/building thing isn't first come, first served...so they've got wiggle room to shuffle the build cue.
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Well after seeing the pics of the Daytona 500 car it got me thinking about CGM again. But after a few days the idea of changing my order faded. But now with the slight delay the idea of less CGM cars being around cause some will prob change to get their car sooner makes we want it again.

Also I'm not sure how much I'm going to like having to keep a black car looking clean for the many many years I'll have it. Sure it will be fun cleaning it the first 6 months...but 3+ years later I'm not sure how much I'll want to keep doing it, lol. It'll be my daily driver, so a CGM would look alot better all year around than the black car.

I'm almost positive it'll be after April til my dealer gets their 1 allocation anyway so maybe I will end up changing after more pics come out of a full CGM car. And especially if the factory is going to be installing the other color stripes I might just do it. There is no way I'd want my dealer doing the install of something like vinyl stripes. Besides CGM w/ black stripes was my very first choice anyway, I guess time will tell.....
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I say again..If this is all true...why no constraints announced last week or this week?
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I say again..If this is all true...why no constraints announced last week or this week?
I don't think true constraints will be seen until production begins.
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I say again..If this is all true...why no constraints announced last week or this week?
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:28 PM   #62
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Can someone explain this to US about painting of the Camaros. If CGM can not be done why are the other colors being done. Is there only one paint line? Why can they paint 8 other colors at the same time and not the CGM? I hope this is a legit question.
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Can someone explain this to US about painting of the Camaros. If CGM can not be done why are the other colors being done. Is there only one paint line? Why can they paint 8 other colors at the same time and not the CGM? I hope this is a legit question.
The answer is already out there......they are waiting for the other gray that is being used at Oshawa plant on current chevy cars to be done with production. Then they can make the switch to cyber gray.
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Old 02-12-2009, 01:40 PM   #64
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I know about the answer on the CGM but it doesn`t explain about the other colors. Do they all have their own lines or the just paint 100 red and then 200 grey and then 100 yellow all on the same line. Maybe I`m not explainng it well enough
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I know about the answer on the CGM but it doesn`t explain about the other colors. Do they all have their own lines or the just paint 100 red and then 200 grey and then 100 yellow all on the same line. Maybe I`m not explainng it well enough
Gotcha....sry....yeah I believe that insiders in the plant have said they could shoot a car all the colors at once if they wanted to. They could make a red then black then blue all after each other on the same line.
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From what I understand from what has been posted on these forums, Oshawa is a flex line. Meaning they can put through a v6, followed by a v8 then another v6 and so on. The same goes for paint. It's all the same line and they can put any combination of colors/engines through in any order.
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From what I understand from what has been posted on these forums, Oshawa is a flex line. Meaning they can put through a v6, followed by a v8 then another v6 and so on. The same goes for paint. It's all the same line and they can put any combination of colors/engines through in any order.
So why not the CGM
This is the last comment I'll make on this


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So why not the CGM
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uhhhhh.....cause there is no CGM paint at the factory yet in the paint system......u can't paint a color that can't be put in place yet.
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Old 02-12-2009, 09:28 PM   #69
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Well then mix it the hell up and put that CGM bucket right next to the other colors on the Camaro line that IS functioning.....I thought that was the whole point of a "flex" line....

Obviously there is something else going on that GM or the Oshawa plant has let us in on...

Heaven forbid that a manufacturing plant have more than 1 "shade of gray"....
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They only have a certain number of paint buckets/robots, lets say 10. They have to pick 10 colors that they want to spray all the cars with. If they want to change a color, they have to stop painting cars altogether, clean out the lines/containers of the old paint, and hook in the new paint supply.

And since the same robots are painting other cars currently, they have to finish up orders for the existing colors before they can swap in the new colors. I'm guessing that the delays in Impala production due to GM's financial issues set back their plans to put CGM in the system. I know it's been stated that the Impala uses the same paint line that the Camaro will use (although there could be other cars as well). If you look at the Imapala color options you'll notice a lot of overlap in the colors. They'll probably be replacing one of the colors (probably Dark Silver Metallic) with Cyber Gray Metallic. They likely already had orders queued up waiting to be built in whatever color will be getting the axe and since those orders have already been accepted into the system, they can't just not build them.

In the end (this summer when summit white is in), 7 of the colors will overlap, leaving 3 unique for each car. So my guess is that they actually have the capability of spraying 13 colors at a time; shared by Imapala, Camaro, and maybe others.
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^^ At least some people understand how this whole process works... I am getting tired of "How come Gm couldn't have delayed a different color?!" posts/threads. Or the ever present "Just hook up another paint bucket."

If it were that simple, do you think GM would ever even consider delaying their second most popular color on a car with this much hype?
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^^ At least some people understand how this whole process works... I am getting tired of "How come Gm couldn't have delayed a different color?!" posts/threads. Or the ever present "Just hook up another paint bucket."

If it were that simple, do you think GM would ever even consider delaying their second most popular color on a car with this much hype?
I am tired of people letting gm snow us like this, it is that simple to do if gm want to do it but dos gm want to ?? sale CGM.
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I say, hey GM... its ok with me if go ahead and build my 2ss next month and just paint it impala grey...
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