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Old 03-07-2011, 02:24 AM   #1
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Edelbrock SC vs Whipple?

So I am debating on which supercharger to get if I want one for sure (or if I can afford it). I have been looking at the edelbrock 2300 for its low end torque. Then I saw the dyno numbers to compare these and obviously the 2900 Whipple is more powerful and more low end torque than the E-Force

I saw some numbers posted by Get Torq for the Whipple http://www.gettorq.com/store/index.p...ercharger.html

And some for the Edelbrock
http://www.lingenfelter.com/LPEforum...read.php?t=612

Not sure which to go with if I do it. Who here has these superchargers and what are the numbers your getting with it and with what other modifications? How do you like it, any problems or complaints? To noisy? Are these suitable for a daily driver and occasional taking it to the track?

What does the average person get with a full catted exhaust/header system and these 2 superchargers?
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Old 03-07-2011, 03:58 AM   #2
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you can't go wrong with either supercharger. i do think the whipple is more efficient. talk to 94guy, gmrulez, ipaintbridges, eric at torq, and a few others that have the whipples. i think you have more room to grow with the whipple over the edlebrock.
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The whipple will allow more growth if you decide to do more engine mods in the future. I have the Edelbrock. I'm running a stock LS3 M6. I am upgrading the exhaust (long tubes and cat back). The edelbrock should be more than enough for me. If you were planning on stroking or other major engine work in the future, I personally would go with the Whipple.
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Old 03-07-2011, 09:01 AM   #4
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Thats the thing, if I supercharge my car, then I will likely keep my Camaro forever as a classic, and it will be my toy car for life (for now it will be my daily driver since I cant afford a 2nd car)

Therefore, if I do further engine work, then it wont be for like 5-10 years when I am established in a career and home (as now I am still only a current phd student). So if I would do further work or not is unknown... Therefore I do not know :(

Is the whipple good for use as a daily driver as it puts more strain on the engine?
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Anyone more knowledgeable, please correct me. Going with the whipple won't put more strain on the engine if it is tuned correctly. Just don't run alot of boost and have someone put a good tune on it. Should be more than fine as a daily driver.
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Old 03-07-2011, 09:20 AM   #6
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Both superchargers will yield respectable numbers and if both are tuned properly you will notice little to no difference as a daily driver vehicle. With my Whipple it drives just like it did the day I took it off the lot, and I am sure the Eforce would be the same. My car made close to 630 rwp and 550 ft/lbs of torque. I have a cat back, CAI intake, kooks headers, and a small custom grind blower cam from T&T performance.

You should figure out where you would like to be power wise and budget wise and then go from there.
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You should figure out where you would like to be power wise and budget wise and then go from there.
I was thinking if I do this, I wanna do it right and keep the car forever and never get rid of it. Therefore I was hoping to have around 550 RWHP and 525+ RWTQ ... Would kooks 1 7/8 catted long tubes, catback exhaust CAI and edelbrock accomplish this? I didnt think so thats why I was looking at the Whipple
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I'd definitely recommend the Whipple. I researched superchargers for a long time before deciding on this one for my daily driver.
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I'm sure you could get to those numbers with the Eforce, but you would probably have to increase your boost level. My peak boost with my setup is 9psi and its with stock pulley from Whipple. If you cranked the Eforce to 9 to 10 psi you would probably see similar numbers. Also, as far as your catted long tubes you may want to research that a little further. I am getting ready to get rid of my cats as they do not seem as though they are going to hold up to my FI setup.
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I was thinking if I do this, I wanna do it right and keep the car forever and never get rid of it. Therefore I was hoping to have around 550 RWHP and 525+ RWTQ ... Would kooks 1 7/8 catted long tubes, catback exhaust CAI and edelbrock accomplish this? I didnt think so thats why I was looking at the Whipple

The Whipple w/ the stock pulley will exceend the 550rwhp on an mn6 car w/ those mods easily. The Automatic L99 will be slightly less, 536rwhp for mine w/ headers, CAI and a tune. Ran a high 10 at the track w/ a set of drag radials and those mods.
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I was thinking if I do this, I wanna do it right and keep the car forever and never get rid of it. Therefore I was hoping to have around 550 RWHP and 525+ RWTQ ... Would kooks 1 7/8 catted long tubes, catback exhaust CAI and edelbrock accomplish this? I didnt think so thats why I was looking at the Whipple
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Whatever you do, protect the fuel set up...doesnt hurt to start there and build up.
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I picked the Edelbrock E-Force for it's looks and low end torq. 546/rwhp and 522/rwtq with 6 lbs of boost. This was good enough for me for driving on the street. See sig for mods.

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Id go with the whipple...allows you to grow a lot more down the road if you choose to, and it's not ugly. I think the E-Force is very ugly, but that's just me.
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I chose the E-Force for the following reasons,

  • Very reputable company that backs their products like no one else
  • The fit and finish of the E-Force looks like it's an OEM SC. The Whipple looks like an afterthought
  • The pricing for the E-Force is better than the Whipple
  • Clear and well documented installation instructions
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E-Force for above reasons. Definitely update fuel system as well.
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I chose the E-Force for the following reasons,

  • Very reputable company that backs their products like no one else
  • The fit and finish of the E-Force looks like it's an OEM SC. The Whipple looks like an afterthought
  • The pricing for the E-Force is better than the Whipple
  • Clear and well documented installation instructions

The fit and finish looks like an afterthought on the Whipple? Really? So you think a poorly designed fuel rail is the way to go? That still hasn`t been addressed by Edelbrock? I know Jannetty has a fixed fuel rail for it , but to my understanding Edelbrock has ignored this issue. As far os OE fit and finish go Ford Racing Superchargers are made by Whipple. You know the ones you can buy from Ford, have installed by Ford and keep your Ford extended warranty. How many OE manufacturers use Edelbrock superchargers? I`m not trying to start a whose blower is better battle but really know what your talking about before you start downing another company`s product.

Pricing is better on the Edelbrock I believe you are correct there.

Instructions...haven`t seen the Edelbrock ones, I`m sure they are great as are the Whipples instructions that even a Caveman could install the blower...

So in the end buy the blower that best suites you OP.
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The fit and finish looks like an afterthought on the Whipple? Really? So you think a poorly designed fuel rail is the way to go? That still hasn`t been addressed by Edelbrock? I know Jannetty has a fixed fuel rail for it , but to my understanding Edelbrock has ignored this issue. As far os OE fit and finish go Ford Racing Superchargers are made by Whipple. You know the ones you can buy from Ford, have installed by Ford and keep your Ford extended warranty. How many OE manufacturers use Edelbrock superchargers? I`m not trying to start a whose blower is better battle but really know what your talking about before you start downing another company`s product.

Pricing is better on the Edelbrock I believe you are correct there.

Instructions...haven`t seen the Edelbrock ones, I`m sure they are great as are the Whipples instructions that even a Caveman could install the blower...

So in the end buy the blower that best suites you OP.
I've seen many pictures of Whipple SC's installed on Camaro's and they look too "aftermarket" for my tastes. Whipple paid little attention to the external styling of the SC, unlike Edelbrock did with the E-Force. Edelbrock thoroughly designed the E-Force inside and out.

As for the fuel rail issue, I think it's been blown (pardon the pun) out of proportion for the financial benefit of the parties doing the blowing. If the stock pulley and injectors are used, the fuel rail design is fine.
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don't sell your self short. if your going s/c your gona want more latter on. the elderblock is a smaller blower and has its limits out of the box. the whipple has more potential out of the box, lower temps for the whipple it has a BAP, if you wanted 650whp with simple bolt ons.
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I've seen many pictures of Whipple SC's installed on Camaro's and they look too "aftermarket" for my tastes. Whipple paid little attention to the external styling of the SC, unlike Edelbrock did with the E-Force. Edelbrock thoroughly designed the E-Force inside and out.

As for the fuel rail issue, I think it's been blown (pardon the pun) out of proportion for the financial benefit of the parties doing the blowing. If the stock pulley and injectors are used, the fuel rail design is fine.
So you prefer all the plastic looking add ons, and thats ok because if we all had the same taste we would all drive the same exact car and have the same exact mods. I respect that, but respectfully disagree. You should see the wow factor the polished Whipple gets w/ painted RJT items under the hood, but I digress.

So in regards to the fueling issue as long as we stay w/ the stock pulley and injectors it will be fine? OK, but most people want to be able to make more power if they want too and Edelbrock did not build that ability into their rail. Do you really think Ted did the upgraded fuel rail just to make a buck? Sure thats part of it, but after reading all threads he`s replied in and the tests he`s done for free, you think that he`s just blowing things out of proportion so he could sell his upgraded fuel rail? I think not.
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So you prefer all the plastic looking add ons, and thats ok because if we all had the same taste we would all drive the same exact car and have the same exact mods. I respect that, but respectfully disagree. You should see the wow factor the polished Whipple gets w/ painted RJT items under the hood, but I digress.

So in regards to the fueling issue as long as we stay w/ the stock pulley and injectors it will be fine? OK, but most people want to be able to make more power if they want too and Edelbrock did not build that ability into their rail. Do you really think Ted did the upgraded fuel rail just to make a buck? Sure thats part of it, but after reading all threads he`s replied in and the tests he`s done for free, you think that he`s just blowing things out of proportion so he could sell his upgraded fuel rail? I think not.
Yea, I prefer an OEM look, but the E-Force is aluminum, there are no plastic parts. I think the Whipple is better in terms of expandability, but to take full advantage an engine rebuild would be needed. One other comparison I'd like to see is the overall weight. The E-Force is heavy as hell unfortunately.
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The Whipple w/ the stock pulley will exceend the 550rwhp on an mn6 car w/ those mods easily. The Automatic L99 will be slightly less, 536rwhp for mine w/ headers, CAI and a tune. Ran a high 10 at the track w/ a set of drag radials and those mods.


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lets put it this way would you like your girl friend to have average boobs or double DD's, Im telling you if you go with the smaller of the two you will regret it.
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Its all good. The Whipple is no lightweight either, w/ the addnl fluids and everything I think it may have gained at least 70-80lbs.

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You know you could always sell the Maggie and use that money to buy a Whipple. You are getting into the power level where the Whipple is actually a bit more useful than where I`m at...
Hey a local Mopar guy is trying to put together a big New Mopar vs New Camaro shootout in the fall. You interested? It would be in Va at Virginia Motorsports Park. It should be pretty big if he can pull it together. You could crash at my place for free that weekend if ya want. No dates yet by if you are interested I`ll keep ya posted.

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lets put it this way would you like your girl friend to have average boobs or double DD's, Im telling you if you go with the smaller of the two you will regret it.
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