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Old 04-12-2010, 06:08 AM   #1
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worked a 2010 Cam wreck the other day

so....I do some moon-lighting as a paramedic and worked my second 2010 Camaro wreck the other day. middle aged, mature guy comes home with his brand new SS, on the same back road that he has driven everyday for the past 30 years. hit a small hill in the road estimated at about 140. flipped end over end several times. he was half-way ejected through the driver side window so, everytime the car came down...you know.

had a friend with him riding shotgun who was fine, walking around.

the engine block landed about 50 yards away from the chassis. the only way that i could tell it was a Camaro was the red SS symbol that was still intact on the trunk.

i love my car, and wouldn't trade it for anything...but let's all be safe and go home at the end of the day
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Old 04-12-2010, 06:40 AM   #2
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WOW. Sorry to hear that, regardless of what car he was driving. Was he wearing a seat belt? There's not much space to get a torso over the steering wheel through the narrow front windshield. Really horrific. You wonder what people are thinking when they do something like this. Thank God the passenger was okay.
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Old 04-12-2010, 07:42 AM   #3
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yes, he was belted. you're right...and not much room through the windows either. you reach a point though where seat belts don't help much at certain speeds, unless you are driving a stock car with a five point harness
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That's a pretty horrific accident to have to clean up after.
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You wonder what people are thinking when they do something like this. Thank God the passenger was okay.
They aren't thinking at all. The passenger was incredibly lucky!!
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Old 04-12-2010, 08:30 AM   #5
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Thats the thing about stupid mistakes. Sometimes you only get to make them once. Sad.
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Old 04-12-2010, 09:46 AM   #7
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so....I do some moon-lighting as a paramedic and worked my second 2010 Camaro wreck the other day. middle aged, mature guy comes home with his brand new SS, on the same back road that he has driven everyday for the past 30 years. hit a small hill in the road estimated at about 140. flipped end over end several times. he was half-way ejected through the driver side window so, everytime the car came down...you know.

had a friend with him riding shotgun who was fine, walking around.

the engine block landed about 50 yards away from the chassis. the only way that i could tell it was a Camaro was the red SS symbol that was still intact on the trunk.

i love my car, and wouldn't trade it for anything...but let's all be safe and go home at the end of the day
Dam!!! why drive 140!!!
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Old 04-12-2010, 09:55 AM   #8
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Sounds like a really bad way to go out. Important to note that the passenger walked away and there was no report of a fire from the OP...that is a pretty good testiment to the safety of this car.

140 on a back road is insane...save that for the track people. Only road you should be doing that is outside Ely Nevada during the Silver State Classic.
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It is something I've done once and honestly just don't feel the need to do again (and this was several years ago in my Z, but I still have no compulsion to in the camaro)...but I only CONSIDERED doing a high speed run WAY late at night, on a flat, straight, 3 lane stretch of interstate.

To do 140 on anything less is...well it's beyond dangerous on that type of road, but a back road? It's purely suicidal...
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I take it he didn't make it...............
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Old 04-12-2010, 10:14 AM   #12
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Old 04-12-2010, 10:16 AM   #13
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That is very sad to hear.
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Old 04-12-2010, 10:18 AM   #14
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Thank you for not traumatizing us with pictures. It couldn't have been pretty.
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Old 04-12-2010, 10:21 AM   #15
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no, i wudnt put the pics on a public forum out of respect for the family.
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Old 04-12-2010, 10:32 AM   #16
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one word....Economy.
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Old 04-12-2010, 10:36 AM   #17
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SO, This brings up a question-WHY build a machine that is capable of such speeds? What USE is 140 mph? If you get all that weight moving at that kind of speed, its an incredibly deadly machine.

I got mine on a straightaway on I-75 and got her to 119..but that's with 4 lanes empty for approx 1/2 mile...Admittedly, it was FUN, and she was capable of doing MUCH faster..But would this accident scaldedchevy describes have happened if the engine was governed at say 70 mph?

SURE, it takes away the fun factor, but saves lives..There is NO practical purpose for allowing a car to go that fast.

..Discuss...
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Old 04-12-2010, 10:40 AM   #18
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There is no denying this is tragic but over all these cars require the owner to have some responsibility and common sense. I am sure that nobody intends to crash but there are plenty of wide open safe spaces out west you can wind this car out safely and take your chances on the ticket. Being active duty military I have lived in Germany for 5 years and ran the autobahn all the time. The problem is that the US roads are not designed for speeds that these cars can put out. I often ran at 120+ and the only reason I kept that low was the fuel consumed at that speed is nuts. So with out ranting I just want to say the car is not the problem but as I see it the problem is where you choose to use the speed.

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SO, This brings up a question-WHY build a machine that is capable of such speeds? What USE is 140 mph? If you get all that weight moving at that kind of speed, its an incredibly deadly machine.

I got mine on a straightaway on I-75 and got her to 119..but that's with 4 lanes empty for approx 1/2 mile...Admittedly, it was FUN, and she was capable of doing MUCH faster..But would this accident scaldedchevy describes have happened if the engine was governed at say 70 mph?

SURE, it takes away the fun factor, but saves lives..There is NO practical purpose for allowing a car to go that fast.

..Discuss...
By all means lets never live just so we can make sure nobody dies.

My question is, why not require stricter licensing for vehicles? Why not REQUIRE people take defensive driving classes?

The number of people with cars capable of killing them is damned near 100%.

I had a friend die doing 55 on an interstate, had to do an emergency lane change and it rolled.

Would that have happened had it been governed at 45?

This desire to be nannied bothers the hell out of me.

If I want to kill myself goddammit that's my choice. If my passenger wants to ride with me, that is theirs.
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By all means lets never live just so we can make sure nobody dies.

My question is, why not require stricter licensing for vehicles? Why not REQUIRE people take defensive driving classes?

The number of people with cars capable of killing them is damned near 100%.

I had a friend die doing 55 on an interstate, had to do an emergency lane change and it rolled.

Would that have happened had it been governed at 45?

This desire to be nannied bothers the hell out of me.

If I want to kill myself goddammit that's my choice. If my passenger wants to ride with me, that is theirs.
I agree with all of this EXCEPT the last tiny bit. Did the driver say "I am going to go 140, crest a hill, roll end over end several times and die... Do you want to ride along?"... NO! But, in this case the passenger was fine so its a moot point. If the passenger had died and the drive lived, it would be a different story!
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so....I do some moon-lighting as a paramedic and worked my second 2010 Camaro wreck the other day. middle aged, mature guy comes home with his brand new SS, on the same back road that he has driven everyday for the past 30 years. hit a small hill in the road estimated at about 140. flipped end over end several times. he was half-way ejected through the driver side window so, everytime the car came down...you know.

had a friend with him riding shotgun who was fine, walking around.

the engine block landed about 50 yards away from the chassis. the only way that i could tell it was a Camaro was the red SS symbol that was still intact on the trunk.

i love my car, and wouldn't trade it for anything...but let's all be safe and go home at the end of the day
how sad..This death should have never happened..Anyone driving that speed on the open road, even a road they are familiar with ought to have their head examined before it ends up splattered all over the highway...

yes be safe not sorry...
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By all means lets never live just so we can make sure nobody dies.

My question is, why not require stricter licensing for vehicles? Why not REQUIRE people take defensive driving classes?

The number of people with cars capable of killing them is damned near 100%.

I had a friend die doing 55 on an interstate, had to do an emergency lane change and it rolled.

Would that have happened had it been governed at 45?

This desire to be nannied bothers the hell out of me.

If I want to kill myself goddammit that's my choice. If my passenger wants to ride with me, that is theirs.
Dang dude, didn't mean to provoke ya, it was JUST a thought, for discussion..sorry if I offended!
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This is why one should test a car's capability only on a given track. In the event of an unexpected situation, safety guidelines are in place so that one may be able to survive such a situation. The choice is yours..
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