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Old 02-13-2009, 02:29 PM   #1
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If you were a cop... would you street race?

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Old 02-13-2009, 02:42 PM   #2
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Ah the racing law:

If you are going 50 km/h (31 mph) over the limit then you are racing.
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Old 02-13-2009, 03:13 PM   #3
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I wonder who the 'Benedict' is that cought her.

I got my wifes car up to 140 mph but only once, and my Trooper freind took a turn after me. The sretch of road is away from everything and wide open. Very little traffic. SL posted is 70. Just wanted to see what it would do one time. Had I got caught, I would have accepted my penalty but I got lucky.

But I would never do it if there were ANY other cars around, even coming from the opposite direction. We had a couple miles of sight and no traffic.

With my SS when I get it I'll do the same but on the track in Irvington.
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Old 02-13-2009, 03:35 PM   #4
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I wonder who the 'Benedict' is that cought her.

I got my wifes car up to 140 mph but only once, and my Trooper freind took a turn after me. The sretch of road is away from everything and wide open. Very little traffic. SL posted is 70. Just wanted to see what it would do one time. Had I got caught, I would have accepted my penalty but I got lucky.

But I would never do it if there were ANY other cars around, even coming from the opposite direction. We had a couple miles of sight and no traffic.

With my SS when I get it I'll do the same but on the track in Irvington.
Yeah, thats a bit different on deserted roads. The highway they're talking about (the 403) and other 400 series highways are always full of traffic. I've come to a complete stop on the 401 at 2am because it was backed up.

regular traffic flow is usually around 120 km/h. but i've been on there when the "flow" of traffic is 140+. I've never been on a 400 series highway and not had someone blow by me at 150+. Not sure the details of this story, but i'm glad they arent getting any breaks. I know i wouldnt get one.
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Old 02-13-2009, 04:22 PM   #5
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Now that's embarrasing!!! I only drive like an idiot when I'm by myself and no one is around.
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Old 02-13-2009, 06:59 PM   #6
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I was racing a mustang on hwy 16 like 20 years ago in my 78 Camaro and got pulled over by Tx DPS in a Mustang black & white. He said "you know why I pulled U ova boya?"

I said nope.. "Cause U where winnin" he said with a country twang and a laugh. Then he proceded to give me a speeding ticket...
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Old 02-13-2009, 08:27 PM   #7
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Lol on the cop, and Ontario for such "stupid" laws.

Sask ftw!
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Old 02-13-2009, 11:20 PM   #8
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Yeah, thats a bit different on deserted roads. The highway they're talking about (the 403) and other 400 series highways are always full of traffic. I've come to a complete stop on the 401 at 2am because it was backed up.

regular traffic flow is usually around 120 km/h. but i've been on there when the "flow" of traffic is 140+. I've never been on a 400 series highway and not had someone blow by me at 150+. Not sure the details of this story, but i'm glad they arent getting any breaks. I know i wouldnt get one.
That stretch where she was caught is relatively empty. Not like between Hamilton and Mississauga. I'd love to meet the genius who thought it was a good idea to merge two 3 lane highways between 2 of the biggest cities in Ontario into . . . 3 lanes.
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Old 02-13-2009, 11:25 PM   #9
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That law makes no sense. 31mph over and you're racing? That's dumb. That's like the "if you take of and your tires chirp you were testing the endurance" of your car law. Who the F**K are they to tell me what my intent was?!? Are they in my brain do they know why i do anything i do?

I've never been pulled over for anything like that, but that effing stupid.
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Old 02-14-2009, 01:36 AM   #10
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Well I know law enforcement and usually they take care of each other. I'm fortunate to know most of the county and state guys here. I've never been pulled over by one I didn't know. But I can honestly say I don't give them any reason to regret leaving me alone.
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That law makes no sense. 31mph over and you're racing? That's dumb. That's like the "if you take of and your tires chirp you were testing the endurance" of your car law. Who the F**K are they to tell me what my intent was?!? Are they in my brain do they know why i do anything i do?

I've never been pulled over for anything like that, but that effing stupid.
Well, its 50% over the highest limit we have, 31 mph comes from the conversion of 50 km/h over the limit. There is no reason at all to ever be going that fast. Here is a more complete version of the law, including penalties:

  • Increases fines for street racers and aggressive drivers, including those who drive 50 km/h or more over the posted speed limit, to $10,000 and allows police to immediately suspend the driver’s licence and impound the vehicle for seven days;
  • The maximum fine increases from $1,000 to $10,000 upon conviction for street racing, making it the highest penalty in Canada. The minimum fine increases from $200 to $2,000.
  • Police can issue an immediate seven-day driver’s licence suspension and seven-day vehicle impoundment for street racing, participating in a driving contest or stunt driving.
  • Courts can impose a driver licence suspension of up to 10 years for a second conviction, if the second conviction occurs within 10 years of the first. For a first conviction, the maximum licence suspension period remains at 2 years.
  • The definition of a “driving stunt” includes driving a motor vehicle at 50 km/h or more above the posted speed limit.
  • The Act also bans driving a motor vehicle on a highway with a connected nitrous oxide system. Some street racers use nitrous oxide to enhance the acceleration capabilities of their vehicles.
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2. (1) For the purposes of section 172 of the Act, “race” and “contest” include any activity where one or more persons engage in any of the following driving behaviours:
1. Driving two or more motor vehicles at a rate of speed that is a marked departure from the lawful rate of speed and in a manner that indicates the drivers of the motor vehicles are engaged in a competition.
2. Driving a motor vehicle in a manner that indicates an intention to chase another motor vehicle.
3. Driving a motor vehicle without due care and attention, without reasonable consideration for other persons using the highway or in a manner that may endanger any person by,
i. driving a motor vehicle at a rate of speed that is a marked departure from the lawful rate of speed,
ii. outdistancing or attempting to outdistance one or more other motor vehicles while driving at a rate of speed that is a marked departure from the lawful rate of speed, or
iii. repeatedly changing lanes in close proximity to other vehicles so as to advance through the ordinary flow of traffic while driving at a rate of speed that is a marked departure from the lawful rate of speed. O. Reg. 455/07, s. 2 (1).
If its the name, would you rather them call it, super speeding? Stupid speeding?
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Old 02-14-2009, 08:18 PM   #12
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Hehe, if we ever get that in Saskatchewan or Manitoba, i'm screwed!
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Hehe, if we ever get that in Saskatchewan or Manitoba, i'm screwed!
Yes, but only if you can't spot one of the 5 places the cops have to hide behind. Saskatchewan is one of the few places where then can spot you on radar and they still have time to finish their coffee.
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Old 02-15-2009, 03:30 AM   #14
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Holy crap. You guys went all Canada on us. Don't know where you guys are talking about.

Basicaly if you're speeding, you accept the penalty and move on. Am I wrong?
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Well, its 50% over the highest limit we have, 31 mph comes from the conversion of 50 km/h over the limit. There is no reason at all to ever be going that fast. Here is a more complete version of the law, including penalties:

  • Increases fines for street racers and aggressive drivers, including those who drive 50 km/h or more over the posted speed limit, to $10,000 and allows police to immediately suspend the driver’s licence and impound the vehicle for seven days;
  • The maximum fine increases from $1,000 to $10,000 upon conviction for street racing, making it the highest penalty in Canada. The minimum fine increases from $200 to $2,000.
  • Police can issue an immediate seven-day driver’s licence suspension and seven-day vehicle impoundment for street racing, participating in a driving contest or stunt driving.
  • Courts can impose a driver licence suspension of up to 10 years for a second conviction, if the second conviction occurs within 10 years of the first. For a first conviction, the maximum licence suspension period remains at 2 years.
  • The definition of a “driving stunt” includes driving a motor vehicle at 50 km/h or more above the posted speed limit.
  • The Act also bans driving a motor vehicle on a highway with a connected nitrous oxide system. Some street racers use nitrous oxide to enhance the acceleration capabilities of their vehicles.
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If its the name, would you rather them call it, super speeding? Stupid speeding?
Excessive Speeding works nicely thank you.
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I like 'stupid speeding'.

I got pulled over for going 9 over a 30 limit in the dead of night with just me and the cop being the only two cars in sight. I was so annoyed at getting that ticket. I didn't even realize I was speeding for the five seconds I was.
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Excessive Speeding works nicely thank you.
Heh, i got that as a verbal warning and a written warning a few times!
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Yes, but only if you can't spot one of the 5 places the cops have to hide behind. Saskatchewan is one of the few places where then can spot you on radar and they still have time to finish their coffee.
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