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Old 08-06-2007, 04:16 PM   #1
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High performance SS could be

MotorTrend Sept. 2007 Issue, page 156 says:

"We've been watching for this one a long time now, but it should be worth the wait. The Global RWD architecture that underpins Chevy's reborn muscle machine is solid stuff, as will be a variety of V-8 and V-6 powertrains. The coupe arrives in early 2009, the convertible as a 2010 model, and a high-horse SS is expected, too"
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Old 08-06-2007, 04:37 PM   #2
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Ok.....

Where's the quote from? how old is it? Etc...right now it means nothing.
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Old 08-06-2007, 05:25 PM   #3
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Oh, I thought the link said it all. Motor Trend Sept. 2007 issue, I just posted it today.
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Old 08-06-2007, 08:56 PM   #4
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It says there that a "high horse SS is expected". To me that means nothing, as they could have been watching blogs and forums like this one and got the popular opinion that the people want a Camaro SS with a crazy amount of power. OR the writer could have talked to a GM rep who said something along the lines of "you can't say that i said this but . . . "
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Old 08-06-2007, 09:17 PM   #5
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I still say the Z28 should be the top dog.
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:07 AM   #6
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ummm no

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I still say the Z28 should be the top dog.
look at your history the z28 started as the 302 HO for road racing, the SS was the big block/ high horsepower engine, IE SS396 etc

...just my 2 cents
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:24 AM   #7
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There have been certain models in the past, where the Z28 was top. BUT, those were the model years when there was no SS.

Z28 is purely Camaro, but SS is just an added designation and an improvement IMO...hence the 4th gen's "Z28 SS". I think we could see one of those again.

Anything could happen, but I wouldn't count on Z28 being the Top-Dog Camaro.
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:47 AM   #8
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I agree with the general distinction between the zeder's and the SS models in general. A Z-- package generally gives a better sports car performance. The SS was more for a muscle car performance. So top hp will typically be for the SS. which leads me to belive that the 'blue devil' corvette with be named SS and not Z07 or stingray
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:55 AM   #9
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I agree with the general distinction between the zeder's and the SS models in general. A Z-- package generally gives a better sports car performance. The SS was more for a muscle car performance. So top hp will typically be for the SS. which leads me to belive that the 'blue devil' corvette with be named SS and not Z07 or stingray
yeah, since Z06 is taken, I think the RPO will be Z07, but it will be designated something else.

Kinda like the SS's RPO is actually Z27 for the Camaro...
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:42 AM   #10
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It says there that a "high horse SS is expected". To me that means nothing, as they could have been watching blogs and forums like this one and got the popular opinion that the people want a Camaro SS with a crazy amount of power. OR the writer could have talked to a GM rep who said something along the lines of "you can't say that i said this but . . . "
And that is why I said "could" be. I also thought this was useful because of all the talk of what/how many V-6 & V-8 options there will be and that is also mentioned. Just passing the info along. I never truely believe anything until it "comes straight from the horses mouth" or I see it first hand.

I am still hoping that the Z28 will be the more affordable V-8 option since that is what I plan on getting.
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:09 AM   #11
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And that is why I said "could" be. I also thought this was useful because of all the talk of what/how many V-6 & V-8 options there will be and that is also mentioned. Just passing the info along. I never truely believe anything until it "comes straight from the horses mouth" or I see it first hand.

I am still hoping that the Z28 will be the more affordable V-8 option since that is what I plan on getting.
no worries, you were just quoting something else. And like you, I would rather have a z28 than an ss
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:49 AM   #12
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no worries, you were just quoting something else. And like you, I would rather have a z28 than an ss
Same here. I want a Z28 and won't be able to afford the 'Top Model'. So I also want the lineup to be V6 Coupe, Z28, SS. (With RS thrown in somewhere if they want.)

I just don't think 'SS' has the same feel to it as 'Z28'.
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:28 PM   #13
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I can live with a corvette stingray, so long as they put on a stingray hood and a split rear window. THAT would be badass to see one of those on the streets. then to realize it has 650 hp giving it a power to weight close to or better thanan enzo. For 1/5 the price.
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Old 08-07-2007, 01:45 PM   #14
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I can live with a corvette stingray, so long as they put on a stingray hood and a split rear window. THAT would be badass to see one of those on the streets. then to realize it has 650 hp giving it a power to weight close to or better thanan enzo. For 1/5 the price.
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Old 08-07-2007, 09:31 PM   #15
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I agree with the general distinction between the zeder's and the SS models in general. A Z-- package generally gives a better sports car performance. The SS was more for a muscle car performance. So top hp will typically be for the SS. which leads me to belive that the 'blue devil' corvette with be named SS and not Z07 or stingray
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:40 PM   #16
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which leads me to belive that the 'blue devil' corvette with be named SS and not Z07 or stingray
Scott said no vette "SS"...and that was all he'd say.
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Old 08-08-2007, 12:25 AM   #17
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Scott said no vette "SS"...and that was all he'd say.
I can understand why, the base Vette now surpasses anything worthy of an SS designation...This monster...it'll tear their doors off! :eek:

Of course, There could be another, more "real" reason...
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:14 AM   #18
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I can understand why, the base Vette now surpasses anything worthy of an SS designation...This monster...it'll tear their doors off! :eek:

Of course, There could be another, more "real" reason...
Yeah...I'd have to go back and find my original post from the day he came into town. But, he specifically stated which names it would not be called out of the names I threw out there. I specifically remember him shooting down the SS name. I think there's only two names that are possible...being the stingray and the Z07...and I'm leaning towards the latter.
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Old 08-08-2007, 06:44 PM   #19
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Not trying to steal the thread,... but this Z28 vs SS debate will continue well past the production of this car. Some are favorable to the Z, others to the SS. But here is my moral dilema: I want the Z28,... but would I buy the SS because the motor produces more HP or vise versa? That, is the question,.... My old man has a sweet original 69Z (complete with matching numbers, 32k 302DZ), and I have an '81Z.

Would I offend the Z28 Gods by going SS? I wish not to invoke the rath of the Z-God,....
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look at your history the z28 started as the 302 HO for road racing, the SS was the big block/ high horsepower engine, IE SS396 etc

...just my 2 cents
If you really want to look at your history the SS Camaro started off as an SBC 350cid 300 HP (while the Z/28 was a mere 302cid/290hp), I don't think the 396 was even offered until near the end of the '67 model year. And I can tell you, back in the day big block SS Camaros were not seen everyday on the streets, they were almost a rarity. That said, I'll be happy with a 400-450HP Z/28 and if the SS is top dog with 450+HP, then so be it, I'll still opt for the Z/28 if it has an excellent suspension/handling package.
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I like both those names, TAG, both Z07, and Stingray have a certain ring to it. But I think I lean the other way, Stingray is more "original" shall we say? Since the Z06 is already out there, Z07 sounds too much like it... But like I said, either one will fit perfectly.

As for the Camaro, I personally want a Z28...only because my Father has one, and I'd like to "keep it in the Family". But depending on cost (I can only do 30,000. Maybe 31,000 if I strech it.), I would take whatever is the Top. Z28 SS or just the Z28, I know I'll have one of them, which one? I'll have to wait to see what GM will possibly release at NAIAS; If it's true that the Production stage is starting, I should hope they know by know what engines are being put into the thing.
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Old 08-09-2007, 12:32 AM   #22
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I dont care really, I'd like a RS option with hideaway headlights but ill live. call me a jerk but kinda excited mom got in a big wreck so she's giving me a huge downpayment out of her settlement....

hello 500hp Supercharged SS/z28/whatever

gonna be awesome to drive no matter what its called. and gonna be great to murder evo's, STi's, my uncles BMW M5, and pretty much anything else short of a ferrari or lambo.

i still pee a little bit in my pants thinking about it... =P

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Well, As long as no one was hurt in that accident, good for you.

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If you really want to look at your history the SS Camaro started off as an SBC 350cid 300 HP (while the Z/28 was a mere 302cid/290hp), I don't think the 396 was even offered until near the end of the '67 model year. And I can tell you, back in the day big block SS Camaros were not seen everyday on the streets, they were almost a rarity. That said, I'll be happy with a 400-450HP Z/28 and if the SS is top dog with 450+HP, then so be it, I'll still opt for the Z/28 if it has an excellent suspension/handling package.
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The old Z28s were severely underrated in their power. They made far, far more than 290hp
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I'm sure they did. Let's hope this new Camaro makes far, far more then 430 hp.
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