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Old 02-27-2014, 02:53 PM   #1
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Angry Sway bars, trailing arms, and rear tie rods is there anything equal to Pfadt

since I will not be getting the PFADT ZL1 sway bars, trailing arms and rear tie rods I ordered is there anything equal to their quality and performance. I dont want to hear I have these and like them. I want to hear from people who know. no offence but im pissed and on forums you get a lot of people who dont know because the only know what they got and if something is better they dont know. My car will only have the best parts. I dont care about the money.
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Old 02-27-2014, 05:00 PM   #2
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so whats left for sways, trailing arms and toe rods

I want the best parts for my car and now that PFADT is out what are the best sways trailing arms and toe rods for my 12 SS now.
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Old 02-27-2014, 07:56 PM   #3
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I want the best parts for my car and now that PFADT is out what are the best sways trailing arms and toe rods for my 12 SS now.
Good question! No Pedders either! I have BMR trailing arms and GM ZL1 toe links on my '10. I would say BMR or Whiteline at this point. Contact Tyler at JDP, he can help guide you to solid products!
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Old 02-27-2014, 08:40 PM   #4
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Good question! No Pedders either! I have BMR trailing arms and GM ZL1 toe links on my '10. I would say BMR or Whiteline at this point. Contact Tyler at JDP, he can help guide you to solid products!
Check out Spohn. I have the rear trailing arms ...top quality!

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Old 02-27-2014, 08:49 PM   #5
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Check out Whiteline Suspension. They were the manufacturer of many of the Pedders products.
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Old 02-27-2014, 11:14 PM   #6
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I have and really like my LSR sways. Nice tie rod ends as well...Xlnt service from them....AZ5G
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Old 02-27-2014, 11:31 PM   #7
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I checked out Spohn their sways are for FE3 suspension. Like the Chrome Molly. I sent them a email about it. If they dont have FE4 sways ill probably go with BMR. I want Made in USA and i want to find a company that makes everything. are BMR soft steel for the trailing arms and toe rods? Im not going to be racing but I do want the best performance with out any noise.
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Old 02-28-2014, 03:19 PM   #8
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The JDP guys highly recommend the Spohn trailing arms and toe rods. No idea on the sways as I was fortunate enough to get the Pfadt sport sways from someone on the classified boards.
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Old 02-28-2014, 03:22 PM   #9
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I want Made in USA and i want to find a company that makes everything.
Why?

The company that makes the best sway bars most likely isn't the same as the one that makes the best bushings...

For bushings, I would go with Whiteline or Prothane. My top sways were Pedders and Pfadt, but not sure who is best there now.
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Old 02-28-2014, 03:27 PM   #10
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it would be nice to have all from same company. but the best is what I really want.
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Old 02-28-2014, 03:40 PM   #11
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Give DSE a call for the trailing arms and toe rods and solid bushings. They have them adjustable, I saw them at PRI, and they look very well made. also USA built.

they don't have FE4 sways yet, but I am sure they will soon.
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I was offered BMR as a replacement but I think you get what you pay for and there cheaper for a reason. My car will only have the best parts. I dont care about the money.
BMR is able to offer parts to the performance aftermarket community at a lower cost because we are a full manufacturing facility. We manufacture right here in-house at our facility in Seffner, FL. Unless it is a specialty product that requires special processes, everything is done right here. That saves us money, which in turns saves you money! You would be surprised to find out how many products from other companies are outsourced (even overseas). Additionally, we are not out to price-gouge our customers. We are ALL car guys ourselves, and we understand that the best possible quality at the best possible price is what people want....and we deliver on that!
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Old 03-08-2014, 12:58 AM   #13
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well i bought everything from BMR
front rear sways
toe rods
trailing arms w/ outer bushings
radius rod bushings
lower control arm bushings
steering rack bushings
derlin cradle bushings
full rear upper control bushing kit http://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=p...productid=1171
some day ill do rear lower control arms and sway bar links. Dont think there is anything left to do. I dont want diff bushings as i dont want extra noise and read that there not really needed.
Just received the toe and trailing arms in black hammer tone. very impressed. very well built and finish is great. there light to. by looking at the picks you would think they weigh allot but no there very light.
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Old 03-08-2014, 01:48 AM   #14
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BMR is what I shifted all my suspension needs too. I have PFADT trailing arms, toe rods, and diff bushings, but I am going to change them out for BMR. I have issues with mixing brands of parts, so Im redoing all of it. At this time I have BMR springs, sways, diff bushings, and end links waiting to go on. I ran BMR on on '98Z28 and loved them. With this car, I wanted the best, which PFADT was. Now Im sold on BMR.
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Old 03-08-2014, 03:27 AM   #15
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Shit looks awesome! I accidently ordered red, so now I have to buy everything else in red. Ewww...but oh well. Lol! Are you going to drop the subframe to put the toe rods in, or are you going to cut the bolt on the driver side?
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sub frames coming out for the cradle bushings
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You gonna put those in? I want them, just looks like a major bitch to do.
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ya ill do them
doing everything in my sig my self
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BMR is what I shifted all my suspension needs too. I have PFADT trailing arms, toe rods, and diff bushings, but I am going to change them out for BMR. I have issues with mixing brands of parts, so Im redoing all of it. At this time I have BMR springs, sways, diff bushings, and end links waiting to go on. I ran BMR on on '98Z28 and loved them. With this car, I wanted the best, which PFADT was. Now Im sold on BMR.
Let me know if you're selling your Pfadt take-offs.
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I've got BMR stuff under my car. My next purchase from them is subframe connectors. Already have toe rods, trailing arms, trailing arm bushings, upper control arm bushings and cradle bushings. Installed all myself in a day total time(started on it after lunch until dark and finished it the next morning) taking my time, never done it before although I've done suspension work for a living for almost two decades.
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I have and really like my LSR sways. Nice tie rod ends as well...Xlnt service from them....AZ5G
We have great quality parts, made in the U.S.A & we are very strong company with years of experience.

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Old 09-01-2014, 04:02 AM   #23
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update. I installed everything and am very happy with it all. The solid delrin cradle bushing made a big difference. The car goes strain now and no mushy take offs. NO new noises.
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