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Old 03-23-2011, 09:51 PM   #69
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The sky is NOT falling. What occurred to PQ is not the norm. Please return to your regular scheduled program.

The 5th Gen has been on the road for a couple of years now. We have reports of two owners in this thread with failures. Pedders has known from day one that the lower control arm tab has limitations based on our own in house testing of the OE arm. PQ should already have his brand new OE replacement arm that was left over from our early R & D. (PQ, Please excuse the dust.) It has a mild steel tab as do all 5th Gen arms. We are confident that a hardened washer added to the assembly on the nut side adds sufficient strength. Will it last forever? Probably not, but nothing else on the 5th Gen will either. Replacement arms are available from GM online parts sellers for as low as $28 so this isn't a big ticket item. The problem isn't new. The bigger the bar the greater the potential for damage. It is now and has been in our Solution C product description. Forum rules prohibit a direct link to the catalog, but you can get there through my signature.

There are a number of Pedderised cars doing serious track duty on all OE arms. There are similar cars from other vendors doing the same thing. The failure rate for the rear OE endlink tab is extremely low. The sky is NOT falling. What occurred to PQ is not the norm. Please return to your regular scheduled program.
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Old 03-23-2011, 09:51 PM   #70
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But as a rule keeping everything nice and tight will go a long way to prevent failures?

Yes?
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Old 03-23-2011, 10:56 PM   #71
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So then I get some free support brakets?

Call it a ............ discoverers fee.
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:01 PM   #72
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So then I get some free support brakets?

Call it a ............ discoverers fee.
Yes. We call them washers and ship them with our endlinks at no charge
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:07 PM   #73
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I have the same setup as PQ and checked mine out tonight.

Fortunately everything was nice and tight (remember those ratchet wrenches I kept talking about Chris? )


However...I did not have any paint missing off the springs from compression...granted I only have about 4k miles since install. Are you jumping your car PQ!?!?!?!
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Old 03-24-2011, 12:26 AM   #74
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I have the same setup as PQ and checked mine out tonight.

Fortunately everything was nice and tight (remember those ratchet wrenches I kept talking about Chris? )


However...I did not have any paint missing off the springs from compression...granted I only have about 4k miles since install. Are you jumping your car PQ!?!?!?!
Only over a small 20 foot ditch. But I'm not airborne for more than a second..........
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Old 03-24-2011, 02:48 AM   #75
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I was under the car the other day and decided to inspect the entire underneath. Well, I found this broken braket peice that is basically the control arm. It is the peice welded onto the control arm that the end links to the sway bar connects to.

Pete, at Pedders, has gracefully offered me one he's had at the shop from early testing. So I didn't have to go buy one but I'm curious if anyone else has had a problem with this piece.

As you can see, the end link tore through the braket. Also pictured is the other side that seems to be good.

There is a split in the other side braket and I don't know if it's a crack or is it supposed to be that way?

Anyway, any feedback would be cool.




The same thing happend to me on my passenger side. Took it to the dealership and they replaced it. At first they tried to blame me and said i had hit something. But then there would have been other damage and they couldnt find any. Drivers beware check em good.
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Only over a small 20 foot ditch. But I'm not airborne for more than a second..........
for some reason, I seem to recall posting this picture when discussing your car before....hmmmmm....

I think we may have to break out the photoshop on this one....


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Old 03-24-2011, 11:09 AM   #77
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The same thing happend to me on my passenger side. Took it to the dealership and they replaced it. At first they tried to blame me and said i had hit something. But then there would have been other damage and they couldnt find any. Drivers beware check em good.
Yours were stock swaybars?
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for some reason, I seem to recall posting this picture when discussing your car before....hmmmmm....

I think we may have to break out the photoshop on this one....

Emmas car is already shopped into this pic. LOL
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for some reason, I seem to recall posting this picture when discussing your car before....hmmmmm....

I think we may have to break out the photoshop on this one....
It was used on my car too. Courtesy of GTAHVIT.


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It was used on my car too. Courtesy of GTAHVIT.



That's some SERIOUSLY stiff suspension that doesn't drop whenoff the ground.
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That's some SERIOUSLY stiff suspension that doesn't drop whenoff the ground.
What scares me more is there is no driver!
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Ok. Got my new LCA and I see that the 'split' is just a deceptive looking joint in the finish. It's on the new control arm as well but the braket is still solid. Just deceiveing. When I get home I'll take both end links off. I fear I'll have to buy another LCA anyway due to the apperent beggining of failure. We'll see though.

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Great post. Thank you PQ.
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Great post. Thank you PQ.
And thank YOU for the speedy delivery of the arm.

This afternoon I'll be working on it to replace the LCA and end links, as well as some other stuff, and I'll be taking really detailed and close pics of the failure and the other LCA braket.

I'll post them up this evening. Still at the office now til 5ish.
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