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Old 02-16-2009, 01:01 PM   #1
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Battery Questions

Wet Cell or Dry Cell?

I recently discovered the battery is located in the trunk of the new Camaro.
Great place to put the battery, IMO
Hot rodders have been doing this for years, mainly for weight distribution.
Seems to me that GM has done this for the same reason.
I'm sure that is is contained in an enclosure of some sort.

Does anyone know?

Is the enclosure metal or plastic? Probably plastic.
Is it a plastic box bolted to the bottom of the trunk well? What about venting?
Or, is it a separate compartment under the trunk floorpan, accessed through a trap door?
Or, is the battery just strapped down to the tunk floorpan with plastic cover over it?

I see the the postive battery cable is inside the trunk compartment;
so I would assume that a separte compartment is not the case.

So, if it is a wet cell battery.
My very first mod on the car would be a change to a dry cell battery.
Would doing this affect the warranty?
I know that I don't care to have a half gallon or so of sulfuric-acid sitting in the same compartment as I do.
IMO A dry cell would be a far safer option.

Anyone seen what sulfuric-acid doed to human tissue; it's not pretty.

And yes the trunk is part of the cocpit, it's only separated by a folding seat back;
and in most cars not even by that much.
There is no bulkhead separtating the trunk like the firewall separates the engine compartment.

Anyone know? Wet Cell or Dry Cell?
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Battery is located in a well that holds the (optional on V6 cars only) space-saver spare tire. It sits under the spare. On SS's and cars that didn't order the spare there is a small tire inflation compressor in with the battery. There are some pictures of the battery in the well in the Indy show pictures thread.
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Old 02-16-2009, 01:24 PM   #4
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Thanks MLL67RSSS

Yes I have see those pix; and that what I thought.

But; it doesn't answer my question.

Wet Cell or dry Cell?

And encloure? If an enclosure what type?

Just questions
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Old 02-16-2009, 01:38 PM   #5
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Great picture

Oh MY GOD!!!! It looks like a Wet Cell.
Hope I'm wrong!

If it is a Wet Cell. Looks like I'll be swapping that out for a Dry Cell.

Will that affect the warranty an any way?
Can anyone tell me?
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Old 02-16-2009, 01:43 PM   #6
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Does ACDelco even make a dry cell battery? I didn't think they did.

Here's a picture from Heather's SS:

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Is that a vent tube that I see on the negative side of the battery?

It might be a battery purpose built for the new Camaro.

I wonder what it's RPO is.

Once again great picture MLL67RSSS
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Old 02-16-2009, 02:23 PM   #8
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i hope you can fit an optima in there.not that im going to drop one in right away,but when it needs replacing i will use an optima.
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Thanks again MLL67RSSS

Great picture

Oh MY GOD!!!! It looks like a Wet Cell.
Hope I'm wrong!

If it is a Wet Cell. Looks like I'll be swapping that out for a Dry Cell.

Will that affect the warranty an any way?
Can anyone tell me?
Why would changing the battery effect your warranty? Of course it wouldn't. There is nothing wrong with the battery being in the trunk. heck, Corvettes use to have it behind the drivers seat and Audis use to have it beneath the rear seat. Come to think of it, the VW Beetle had the battery under the rear seat also. And that was before sealed type batteries were the norm.
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Don't get me wrong I really like where the battery is.

But; it realy should be a dry cell.

I have seen the damage cause by a rollover in a VW with the battery under the rear seat.
The person lost the use of their arm from that battery acid; and again I will say not a pretty site.
Sure a freak accident but it can happen.
I still think a dry cell would be way safer.

I guess that the stats on this issue are low enough that it is a non-issue.

Anyone have more info on this battery.
Is it the same as use in the Vet? It must be.
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i hope you can fit an optima in there.not that im going to drop one in right away,but when it needs replacing i will use an optima.
Optima isn't worth the money, I have had to and they both crapped our in a year, I ended up going to autozone and getting a 5 year battery for half the price and no issues with it at all...
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Is that a vent tube that I see on the negative side of the battery?

It might be a battery purpose built for the new Camaro.

I wonder what it's RPO is.

Once again great picture MLL67RSSS
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Don't get me wrong I really like where the battery is.

But; it realy should be a dry cell.

I have seen the damage cause by a rollover in a VW with the battery under the rear seat.
The person lost the use of their arm from that battery acid; and again I will say not a pretty site.
Sure a freak accident but it can happen.
I still think a dry cell would be way safer.

I guess that the stats on this issue are low enough that it is a non-issue.

Anyone have more info on this battery.
Is it the same as use in the Vet? It must be.
GM has been putting batteries in the trunk for several years now, ever since the Saturn Ion Came out. I know for a fact the ION, Cobalt and HHR all have the battery in the back. I see no problem with them being there.
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Old 02-16-2009, 03:26 PM   #13
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I'm getting the 2SS and I ordered a spare tire because if you get a hole in the side wall the air compressor isn't going to help one bit. But I'm wondering, does me ordering the spare tire mean I'm not going to get the air compressor also? I mean it should come with it if it's standard equipment for the 2SS but I didn't know if they were just going to leave it out because I got the spare tire also. Anyone know for sure?
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I'm getting the 2SS and I ordered a spare tire because if you get a hole in the side wall the air compressor isn't going to help one bit. But I'm wondering, does me ordering the spare tire mean I'm not going to get the air compressor also? I mean it should come with it if it's standard equipment for the 2SS but I didn't know if they were just going to leave it out because I got the spare tire also. Anyone know for sure?
you can't get the spare with the 2SS... but even if you could you would not get a compressor if you get the spare tire.
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Old 02-16-2009, 03:59 PM   #15
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I'm getting the 2SS and I ordered a spare tire because if you get a hole in the side wall the air compressor isn't going to help one bit. But I'm wondering, does me ordering the spare tire mean I'm not going to get the air compressor also? I mean it should come with it if it's standard equipment for the 2SS but I didn't know if they were just going to leave it out because I got the spare tire also. Anyone know for sure?
The tiny donut spare tire won't fit over your 2SS Brembo brakes.
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I'm getting the 2SS and I ordered a spare tire because if you get a hole in the side wall the air compressor isn't going to help one bit. But I'm wondering, does me ordering the spare tire mean I'm not going to get the air compressor also? I mean it should come with it if it's standard equipment for the 2SS but I didn't know if they were just going to leave it out because I got the spare tire also. Anyone know for sure?
Carry a plug kit. Insert a plug and air it up until you get home or to a tire place. If its to big for that, call GM Roadside assistance or your own Roadside assistance.
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Optima isn't worth the money, I have had to and they both crapped our in a year, I ended up going to autozone and getting a 5 year battery for half the price and no issues with it at all...

I've had one for 6 years,not a single problem
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I've had one for 6 years,not a single problem
Both of these were in a car that would sit for a week or longer between startups(on my El Camino). and sitting outside, and After I talked to the guy at the parts store he told me that once they discharge they are nearly impossible to charge back up. I couldn't handle that, so like I said I bought a 800 CCA Autozone 5 year battery for half the price and have had no problems with it at all.
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Old 02-17-2009, 04:53 PM   #20
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I work at Batteries Plus and have had experience replacing the batteries in the trunk and under the back seats of imports (BMW, MB, AUDI) and domestics (Caddies, Olds, Pontiacs). The ACDELCO battery is manufactured by either exide, johnson controls, or a smaller manufacture. It all depends on who gives ACDELCO the lower price. They just slap their sticker on it. The battery is a Wet cell lead acid battery. It has a vent tube that vents the hydrogen gas and any acid overflow out of the car. The replacement of the battery will not effect the warranty unless it is under the OM rated CCA and then that depends on your dealer. The battery just wont be covered under GM warranty any more. If you do decide to replace the battery go with an Odyssey battery (http://www.odysseyfactory.com/batteries.html). They are greatly superior to anything else on the market. They use virgin lead and are a military grade battery. Optimas and other batteries use a percentage of recycle lead. I have also returned a high % of Optimas compared to what the manufacture says should be returned. I have had cases of the Optimas failing entirely in the first couple months of use. When you pay 200$ for a battery that shouldn't happen. Now the Odyssey are 200$ and higher batteries but you are really getting what you pay for with that battery. They also give you a 4 year free replacement warranty. The power output on the Odyssey is also well above what they are rated at. I have a HEPPC1500DT in my car. It is rated at 825CCA and it actually puts out over 1100 CCA. The battery is also 2 years old and it is still putting out this much power. The batteries are still not fully sealed. They have gas regulated valves that will vent gasses into the trunk and/or passenger compartment if the battery is overcharged/overheats/or is constantly charging. The AGM(absorbed glass mat or GEL cel) does not carry any liquid acid so you will not have to worry about any leakage. Also battery acid is not that strong and it will not instantly eat through a persons skin. I have spilled on it myself man times. As long as you wash and rinse with soap and water in a reasonable amount of time you will be fine. It will however eat through any non-plastic clothing (cotton and wool). Have lost many pants and shirts to that. Go to http://www.batteriesplus.com/t-faq2.aspx#16 for more information or http://www.batteriesplus.com/t-storeloc.aspx for you r nearest Batteries Plus. Or send me a PM and i will help you with your questions.
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Don't get me wrong I really like where the battery is.

But; it realy should be a dry cell.

I have seen the damage cause by a rollover in a VW with the battery under the rear seat.
The person lost the use of their arm from that battery acid; and again I will say not a pretty site.
Sure a freak accident but it can happen.
I still think a dry cell would be way safer.

I guess that the stats on this issue are low enough that it is a non-issue.

Anyone have more info on this battery.
Is it the same as use in the Vet? It must be.
I've had battery acid get all over me several different times, all I ever lost was t-shirts and blue jeans, never an acid burn on my skin. I will say the acid was hosed off with water in a reasonable amount of time, so no extended skin exposure.
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I like the idea of the battery in the trunk much better than under the hood...my friend had his car broken into and all they did was break the hood latch and disconnect the battery so the alarm was disabled...I know my mothers Bonneville GXP has it under the rear seat and I like that except for the fact that if the car has to be jumped the chance of dirtying up the interior is very high...
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lol I can see it now... Someone needing their car jumped and I back up to the front of them.. and they give me that "Wtf are you stupid?" look.. lol
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It's in the trunk partly because of weight but mainly because of safety. Most crashes involve the front end. When you have a battery in the area were the damage is it makes it harder to disconnect. One of the first things rescue workers do after a significant MVA is disconnect the battery. This prevents several things the main ones are.

It removes possible ignition source(sparks), It also disables the electrical system so it diminishes the chances of undeployed air bags deploying and injuring the victims and or rescue worker post incident.

Also for those who are asking themselves "How do you jump start your vehicle or another vehicle if the battery dies?" there are terminals under the hood you can connect to.
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Has anyone answered the question yet (yes I tried the search feature) if an Optima or Odyssey will fit and which model if the answer is yes?

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