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Old 03-23-2011, 12:31 PM   #76
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Any chinese camaro owners on here like myself?
yup... malaysian... but chinese...
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:39 PM   #77
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There is no way the Chinese will drive a camaro. If it ain't Japanese, they ain't buying it. I've worked with Chinese folks in engineering for the last 15 years and every single one drives a Honda or Toyota. They think American cars are junk.
Check GM's sales in China. Well over 2,000,000 units. On Par with North America. Buick sales are HUGE and Chevrolet is climbing fast.
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Old 03-23-2011, 01:23 PM   #78
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Any chinese camaro owners on here like myself?
I'm Chinese.
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Old 03-23-2011, 06:43 PM   #79
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I think its a good idea to sell the Camaro over there, I mean they've been selling Asian brands here for quite some time....its only fair but to change the name? I dont agree with that...I can't necessarily pronounce all the Asian brand cars but it makes no difference I say they keep the name.....just sayin'
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Old 03-23-2011, 07:04 PM   #80
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At $76K for a V6, I know when it comes time to sell mine (if ever), I'll be posting it in the Chinese Autotrader!!!

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Old 03-23-2011, 07:23 PM   #81
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Well most Chinese engineering folks I have seen have a master or PhD, live a very modest life, they buy cars that are not expensive, good mileage, and low repair cost, and they save a good percentage of their income into the bank. IMO these Chinese people are not the targeted buyer of any premium cars, because they don't care that much about their car. On the other hand there are Chinese business owners and restaurant owners who really care about their 'status' and spend big money on Mercedes, BMW, and other luxury items.

Most wealth people in China care a lot about their status and how they look in front of other people, they want expensive, exotic cars, designer cloths, and other things that can show their status. GM is targeting these rich Chinese people with the Camaro in China, and it will be priced and equipped accordingly. Most premium options like leather seats and stuff are probably going to be standard equipment when the Camaro goes to China, just like how most Hondas and Buicks have standard leather seats there.
You are right about everything but I think everyone would agree that a V6 camaro is not a fancy exotic car and does not fit in the same category with high end Mercedes and BMW cars. I guess most engineers with a PHD would never buy a Camaro or luxury car regardless of nationality. I think as engineers they always look for most cost effective, efficient and reliable product in general.
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Old 03-23-2011, 08:08 PM   #82
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.....wow - some of these posts --

(.....altho I DO like the one about "hot dogging" it or "apple pieing" it!)

Anywhoo........

This is very typical for cars that wish to maintain their branding in
China.

Chinese characters don't mimic ours, obviously....... So they have to
adjust to make it be as close as possible.

That's all that's happening here....Can't get there from here so to speak.....

The letter C in particular is problematic, pronunciation-wise. The Kei
sound that they use is what is done with all other Chevrolet's that have a
hard-C sound at the beginning (like Cruze, Captiva, etc.)

I'm glad this popped up as a story, actually....highlights the popularity
of the car.....without this no one outside of China would take notice that
the car is launching there.


Oh - and by the way - The BMW? Pronounced "Bee oh wah" or something along those lines - not just GM cars!

With everything we IMPORT into this country from China, (WALMART!!) I would think Americans would cheer that we're EXPORTING something in return!

Finally - yes, they're more expensive over there - but keep in mind a ton of modifications need to be made -- remember - even their fuels are different over there........
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Old 03-24-2011, 12:22 AM   #83
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Good for them, more peoples to enjoy the Camaro.. the better!
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Old 03-24-2011, 04:28 AM   #84
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.....wow - some of these posts --

(.....altho I DO like the one about "hot dogging" it or "apple pieing" it!)

Anywhoo........

This is very typical for cars that wish to maintain their branding in
China.

Chinese characters don't mimic ours, obviously....... So they have to
adjust to make it be as close as possible.

That's all that's happening here....Can't get there from here so to speak.....

The letter C in particular is problematic, pronunciation-wise. The Kei
sound that they use is what is done with all other Chevrolet's that have a
hard-C sound at the beginning (like Cruze, Captiva, etc.)

I'm glad this popped up as a story, actually....highlights the popularity
of the car.....without this no one outside of China would take notice that
the car is launching there.


Oh - and by the way - The BMW? Pronounced "Bee oh wah" or something along those lines - not just GM cars!

With everything we IMPORT into this country from China, (WALMART!!) I would think Americans would cheer that we're EXPORTING something in return!

Finally - yes, they're more expensive over there - but keep in mind a ton of modifications need to be made -- remember - even their fuels are different over there........
Are the camaro's shipping directly from Canada, or are they being shipped into the US? It's too bad that the camaro is foreign built, would have been nice if the US got the full benefit from this.
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Old 03-24-2011, 08:44 AM   #85
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too bad with all the money we the American peopled dumped into saving GM. They were not forced to build in the US!
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You are right about everything but I think everyone would agree that a V6 camaro is not a fancy exotic car and does not fit in the same category with high end Mercedes and BMW cars. I guess most engineers with a PHD would never buy a Camaro or luxury car regardless of nationality. I think as engineers they always look for most cost effective, efficient and reliable product in general.
The V6 may not be that fancy but it won't be too bad, they have BMW 730i, Benz S350, and Audi A8 3.0 in China (not to mentioned I4 no turbo BMW 320i)

Plus, I'm sure GM willl bring the SS V8 and even ZL1 to China
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:48 AM   #87
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Finally - yes, they're more expensive over there - but keep in mind a ton of modifications need to be made -- remember - even their fuels are different over there........
Well, I will bet that the high price tag have nothing to do with modifications. The gas they have in major cities may not be as clean as the gas here, but not much worse.

The cause of the price is tax.
There's a 25% import tax on all cars being imported into China, a 17% VAT, and 25% tax based on the engine displacement(25% for 3.6L V6, 40% for 4.0L or above.)

All taxes are accumulative as far as I know.
so a nicely equipped 2LT is about $32K USD here(MSRP), after all three taxes I mentioned it's about $58.5K. There could be one or two other kinds of taxes.
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Old 03-24-2011, 12:56 PM   #88
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Old 03-24-2011, 03:34 PM   #89
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Chickety China....the Chinese Chicken?
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Old 03-25-2011, 07:09 PM   #90
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Chickety China....the Chinese Chicken?
I don't get it. What chu' talkin' 'bout?
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Old 03-28-2011, 07:19 PM   #91
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Why do this stupid phonetic change to the name???? I'm sure that the Chinese can say Camaro. The changed version almost looks like a tacky, stereotyped name change... the only thing missing is the buck teeth and coke bottle glasses. Just call the damn thing a Camaro and let them deal with how to say it.
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