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Old 04-10-2011, 02:14 PM   #1
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Lets estimate ZL-1 numbers

Ok like many of you... I need something to cure boredom of waiting for ZL-1 even though my wait is only a week old as just deciding to not turn my SS into a half race car monster.

So what do you guys think will be the following numbers? My estimates are:

Price - $48499 base, $51500 optioned out
0-60 - 3.9s
1/4 mile - 12.0s @120
max lateral G - .95
HP - 570
TQ - 530
Weight - 3950 lbs

Now lets not get carried away with exaggerations lol

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Old 04-10-2011, 02:20 PM   #2
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ZL1 Automatic
Price - $N/A base, $N/A optioned out
0-60 - N/A
1/4 mile - N/A
max lateral G - N/A
HP - N/A
TQ - N/A

Had to rub a lil more salt in the wound haha
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but at the same time ...
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Price - $47995 base, $55899 optioned out
0-60 - 3.9s
1/4 mile - 12.1s
max lateral G - .95
HP - 575
TQ - 535
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Old 04-10-2011, 02:33 PM   #5
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Price - $47995 base, $55899 optioned out
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woah .. what options are you expecting for that much? It basically comes with the 2SS, possible auto tranny, sunroof, carbon fiber stripe + ...?
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We don't know all the options yet (i think)..I based it off of similar spread of the 2ss...base 2ss starts at what...34?...optioned out comes to i think 44 or something...quite a spread i know. but seeing that this car has significantly more expensive parts, I'd assume that optioned out would be higher than just 4k plus base.
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well theres no word on larger rims yet for the ZL1... and obviously no gfx kit as it already comes with side skirts and a front splitter .... thats ~$7000 of the 2010 SS possible options gone right there
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I have a 2ss/rs and it was stickered at 37, stripes were included in price but i didn't want em and only other options i could get was the diff rims and gm's body kit.

But i do feel this car will be stickered high around the 55 mark assuming the base is 48k.
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Price: $49,950- Optioned out $53,500

Weight: 4050- 4100 Pounds

0-60: 3.8-4.0 seconds

1/4 Mile: 11.9-12.2 @ 117-119 MPH

Max Lateral G: .99 - 1.01 G's

HP: 565

TQ: 555


What I WISH For....

Price: Same as above

Weight: 3800-3900 Pounds

0-60: 3.7 - 3.9 Seconds

1/4 Mile: 11.7- 11.9 @ 119-122 MPH

Max Lateral G's: 1.00- 1.06 G's

HP: 575-580

TQ: 560-570
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looks like a catch here lol...we don't know if rims or other gfx packages are available, but we can't assume that they are, so then how would we assume the price then?
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I would bet there are no gfx packages for the zl1 since it pretty much already has one. Also the rims are light weight and only put on this car so any other rim gm offers would be kinda back stepping performance.
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I would bet there are no gfx packages for the zl1 since it pretty much already has one. Also the rims are light weight and only put on this car so any other rim gm offers would be kinda back stepping performance.
... this is supposed to be the alpha performance camaro (for now lol) ... i cant see them offering rim options which will slow down this car a lot...

i mean a sunroof would also add extra weight, but that doesnt change traction due to tires.... still think they will have one
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Old 04-10-2011, 05:43 PM   #13
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My best estimation would have to come from our present living example, being caddy's cts-v coupe. So far it dusted the gt500 (Thus no surprise that ford isn't waiting around for the zl1) and bmw m5 (They went off to turbo charging land after caddy's dispensed beating!), and it did this with the following (based on Edmunds):
4250 lbs.
4.2 0-60
12.2 1/4 mile
.90 g skidpad
104ft 60-0 stop time.

Having a fair idea of how chevy will handle the body and badge switch I'd wager that the zl1 would come in with

4000 lbs (It needs to be 3900 realistically)
4.1 0-60
12.2 1/4 mile
.93 g skid pad
104 ft. 60-0 stop time

Edit: Price...$49,899 base; 53-55k out the door....I hope

The zl1 can certainly improve on caddy's great numbers with some weight savings and really grippy tires.
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I can see half of you didn't read the facts about the ZL1. It states that the ZL1 will have a minimum of 550 HP and TQ. I have seen a couple of you put well below 550 TQ, but that's besides the point.

Price: Base - $49k est. / Loaded - $56k est.

Weight: 3925-4100 lbs (need to know more facts about the car for an accurate guess)

0-60 mph: 3.8 - 4.0 sec est.

0-100 mph: 8.5 - 9.0 sec est.

1/4 mile: 11.8 - 12.0 sec @ 120 mph est.

60-0 mph: 103 ft est.

Max Lateral G: .95 g - .98 g est.

HP: 575 - 580 est.

TQ: 570 - 575 est.
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Based on the ZL585 I am going to guess (on a good day with a decent driver):

0-60 mph: 3.5
1/4 mile: 11.7
Max lateral G 1.0-1.02 ( Its was going to be called the Z/28 so I know GM would want atleast hit 1.0g) 285 35R tires on 20x10" wide rims in front should be able to do that.

I assume it will have better off the line traction than the ZL585 because of the beefed up suspension but might slightly wiegh more.
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Wow, interesting graph, very detailed. Doesn't the LSA redline at 6200? How much does that change the performance numbers?
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i like the chart
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Wow, interesting graph, very detailed. Doesn't the LSA redline at 6200? How much does that change the performance numbers?
You are correct about the redline being 6200. I also found the updated transmission gear ratios.

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You are correct about the redline being 6200. I also found the updated transmission gear ratios.

New report is shown below;
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That top speed would explain why they had to go from a 180 mph speedo to a 200 Assuming the car weighed the same as the SS, how would that change those numbers? You don't have to make another graph lol, just 1/4 mile time and trap speed and 0-60 I'm interested in
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That top speed would explain why they had to go from a 180 mph speedo to a 200 Assuming the car weighed the same as the SS, how would that change those numbers? You don't have to make another graph lol, just 1/4 mile time and trap speed and 0-60 I'm interested in
No problem, what would you like me to run the test weight (with driver) at as I've see SS weight to be inconsistant.

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No problem, what would you like me to run the test weight (with driver) at as I've see SS weight to be inconsistant.

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Oh, the 4050 is WITH driver. Hmmm... then that seems about right for the SS's weight. How about with 620 hp and 595 tq? If I modify, that's the power I want to stop at, approx 550 to the wheels lol
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Oh, the 4050 is WITH driver. Hmmm... then that seems about right for the SS's weight. How about with 620 hp and 595 tq? If I modify, that's the power I want to stop at, approx 550 to the wheels lol
The ZL1 at 4050 lbs with 620 hp at 595 ft/lbs tq would run...

11.70 @ 121.8 mph
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The ZL1 at 4050 lbs with 620 hp at 595 ft/lbs tq would run...

11.70 @ 121.8 mph
That's it! Whats it gonna take for this thing to run 10.8 at 130ish? Damn weight
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