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Old 03-30-2011, 01:45 PM   #35
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8.0 lbs./hp., nimble, lighter than an SS, $40ish in "1ZE" form...my deposit awaits!
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Old 03-30-2011, 02:32 PM   #36
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I agree.
I'm guessing about $10,000. Difference between a ZL1 and a Z28. I'll take the Z28.
A lot of people who are planning to buy ZL1 are going to change their mind when the actual price is announced.
Ive been saying this for months. Everybody in here say oh ill pay whatever but when it comes down to it the price and the nuts and bolts of it your going to see a lot people back out. But with that said there is no promise of a Z/28 yet and some people act like its a for sure and its coming out

I would think a Z-28 coming out is going to depend somewhat on the success of the ZL1, what a successful number sold I dont know. But if GM only sells say less than 5,000 I dont see them coming out with another platform so quickly unless they can offer some thing thats maybe 10 grand cheaper than the ZL1 but has at least 50-75 more hp than the SS. Well see about the ZL1 not quite the hype that there was back in 2009 for the 2010 model and to be frank Ive heard nothing of the Zl1 besides C5.

Back to the original question. If the boss is faster and thats only what your looking for then I would say yes. If your lookin at price probably yes. If your looking at looks, brand loyal probably not. I just dont like Mustang with that said I wouldnt buy one and if thats all there was well I wouldnt have sports car
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Old 03-30-2011, 03:04 PM   #37
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Sign me up for a Z/28 if GM can put one together that is:

1) 400lbs lighter
2) 15% increase in HP/TQ
3) SSX car suspension
4) $5-6K above the SS
5) ground effects
6) hugger orange paint
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Old 03-30-2011, 03:08 PM   #38
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Sign me up for a Z/28 if GM can put one together that is:

1) 400lbs lighter
2) 15% increase in HP/TQ
3) SSX car suspension
4) $5-6K above the SS
5) ground effects
6) hugger orange paint
think you would be hard pressed to see number 1. The rest seems real doable.
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Old 03-30-2011, 03:09 PM   #39
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No way, shouldn't cost more than a 2SS. Get rid of the 1SS and just insert Z/28. most of the things that are mentioned are "upgrades" but for the 2SS you are paying for convenience, leather, amenities...besides using a different engine aka upgraded 5.3L you should save money there by not using the LS3
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Old 03-30-2011, 03:25 PM   #40
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No way, shouldn't cost more than a 2SS. Get rid of the 1SS and just insert Z/28. most of the things that are mentioned are "upgrades" but for the 2SS you are paying for convenience, leather, amenities...besides using a different engine aka upgraded 5.3L you should save money there by not using the LS3
I would agree with you but at lot of people want the leather and crap and they will just pile it on top of their loan that they already cant afford to get it. I bought the 1SS because I was concerned more with performance than interior ammenties.
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Old 03-30-2011, 03:35 PM   #41
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I definately would enjoy another option to consider. I'm all for Z28 coming back to show those phillies from Dearborn how to make a muscle car
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Old 03-30-2011, 04:05 PM   #42
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I really hope they do. I will be buying.
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Old 03-30-2011, 07:05 PM   #43
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It's not gonna be 300 - 500 lbs lighter, impossible! Why a 5.3? It makes no sense. It will weigh the same and have less HP.
We need to be reasonable. Compare previous Z28's to the other Camaros of the same model year.
Very simply put it should be a Camaro version of the Boss, but of course it will be better!
Give us the Z28!
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Old 03-30-2011, 07:10 PM   #44
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New test picture of the new Z/28.

Can you see the Z/28 emblems on it?

Thank you alex33x for letting me use your car.
The real Z/28 wouldn't have GFX. Just another thing to add weight that offers no performance gain at all. To be a boss killer need theyt to get rid of stuff ,not add things for ornamental effect.
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Old 03-30-2011, 07:38 PM   #45
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It's not gonna be 300 - 500 lbs lighter, impossible! Why a 5.3? It makes no sense. It will weigh the same and have less HP.
We need to be reasonable. Compare previous Z28's to the other Camaros of the same model year.
Very simply put it should be a Camaro version of the Boss, but of course it will be better!
Give us the Z28!
Maybe he meant the new D.I V8 GM says they don't have

500 lbs lighter impossible, no. Improbable, yes. Could dump 500 lbs quick, but it would cost.

Like Number3 reminded us... the original Z/28 (street version) wasn't a stripped down race car. You could get it loaded with just about any option offered other than powertrain.

If you want an SSX, get a BIW, find a salvage car and go to work.

I'd like to see the Leno car produced.... I'd drive that happy little 450 hp 6-banger!
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Old 03-30-2011, 08:43 PM   #46
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Maybe he meant the new D.I V8 GM says they don't have

500 lbs lighter impossible, no. Improbable, yes. Could dump 500 lbs quick, but it would cost.

Like Number3 reminded us... the original Z/28 (street version) wasn't a stripped down race car. You could get it loaded with just about any option offered other than powertrain.

If you want an SSX, get a BIW, find a salvage car and go to work.

I'd like to see the Leno car produced.... I'd drive that happy little 450 hp 6-banger!
In context it is impossible.
I agree you could option it to be almost as much as a base vette.
I can't be any more clear; make it a Boss competitor. It should not be a "race car" it should be a street driven "race car". Two very different things.
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Old 03-30-2011, 08:57 PM   #47
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I wanted a Z/28 before the ZL1 or the Boss came out.
Ditto, I've been waiting for a Z/28 ever since the Camaro Concept was first show at the Detroit Auto Show in 2006!! My avatar picture was done by Dragoneye on this site long before the ZL1 was even a thought in anyone's mind, around Nov. 2007 with Z/28 emblems on it.
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The real Z/28 wouldn't have GFX. Just another thing to add weight that offers no performance gain at all. To be a boss killer need theyt to get rid of stuff ,not add things for ornamental effect.
Hmmm, I seem to recall my '69 Z/28 having some GFX, though it was modest chin and trunk lid spoilers.
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Old 03-30-2011, 09:08 PM   #49
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Maybe he meant the new D.I V8 GM says they don't have

500 lbs lighter impossible, no. Improbable, yes. Could dump 500 lbs quick, but it would cost.

Like Number3 reminded us... the original Z/28 (street version) wasn't a stripped down race car. You could get it loaded with just about any option offered other than powertrain.

If you want an SSX, get a BIW, find a salvage car and go to work.

I'd like to see the Leno car produced.... I'd drive that happy little 450 hp 6-banger!
The first gen. Z/28s could only be loaded to a certain point. No vert, no AC, no auto tranny.
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Old 03-30-2011, 09:09 PM   #50
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Sign me up for a Z/28 if GM can put one together that is:

1) 400lbs lighter
2) 15% increase in HP/TQ
3) SSX car suspension
4) $5-6K above the SS
5) ground effects
6) hugger orange paint
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Old 03-30-2011, 09:13 PM   #51
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Nope..why would I want to downgrade....
Already built a supersnake killer.
And working on the roadcourse Boss Killer. But it will take some big brakes "Stop Tech" and a full pfadt kit. No big deal and then the Z28 will still seem mild compared.
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