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Old 03-31-2011, 09:37 PM   #69
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I love the idea of more versions of Camaro...and another car to kick Ford in the axles...I just can't help but wonder how many people would be willing to sacrifice what's necessary to get a Z28 worthy of the name...

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The Z-28 should be a little more cost effective. The ZL1 is expected to be $60k.
No, it's not.

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Try $80000 + MSRP of the Camaro itself.
It's on their (SLP's) website.
And: No, it's not...kinda.

GM's making a factory ZL1...the SLP car is something different.

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Old 03-31-2011, 11:51 PM   #70
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I love the idea of more versions of Camaro...and another car to kick Ford in the axles...I just can't help but wonder how many people would be willing to sacrifice what's necessary to get a Z28 worthy of the name...
About the same that will buy a ZL1.. I personally think that the ZL1 will also be low in the sales department. The GT500 in 2011 will be around 5500, so I would say that you can expect similar for a ZL1.
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Old 04-01-2011, 09:41 AM   #71
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Personally, I would love to see additional variants of the 5th generation Camaro. In practice, I would think it'd be more cost-effective to create them as factory performance packages available on-request.

I'm not a track star like some of the C5 member's; so, I like to push my little V6 around corners and in the twisties a little harder and a little faster than the next guy to get my kicks. I think a Z/28 would be more fun for the everyday driver who wants that little bit of a thrill from being able to reasonably blow by most cars while being able to chuck it into a corner in the city when it suits them.
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Old 04-01-2011, 10:17 AM   #72
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Old 04-01-2011, 12:01 PM   #73
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looking at the sales statistics.. i think the camaro IS the B O S S
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Old 04-01-2011, 12:32 PM   #74
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Yes, I'll buy a Z28 if offered.

A 475hp 6.5L (396ci) would be nice, but unlikely.

Brakes, Suspension, Tires/Wheels, Cooling, Dry Sump, CF Hood/Splitter/Spoiler, Recaros.

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Old 04-01-2011, 02:44 PM   #75
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So what if the Z28 weighed 3800 lbs.?
The Boss is about 20 lbs. more than the GT, and blows it away. It's all about control. Losing weight would be nice, but you can still have great handling just ask Pedders and Pfadt!
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Old 04-01-2011, 03:01 PM   #76
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So what if the Z28 weighed 3800 lbs.?
The Boss is about 20 lbs. more than the GT, and blows it away. It's all about control. Losing weight would be nice, but you can still have great handling just ask Pedders and Pfadt!
I am with you on this one, we dont need to shed weight, but make the weight work with us not against us.
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Old 04-01-2011, 03:04 PM   #77
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There's nothing more I would love then to drive my fifth gen Z28...It's what I have been hoping for.
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Old 04-01-2011, 03:12 PM   #78
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I am with you on this one, we dont need to shed weight, but make the weight work with us not against us.
Yes!
I just looked at the specs on the Shelby GT350, it weighs almost 4,000 lbs.
yet its stats are impressive.
0-60 = 4.2
1/4 = 12.4
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and i think we could have a Z28 tip the scale around 3750 lbs which is 110 less then a 1ss, but even if not, most of the weight is already low in the car an equaled out nicely on all four corners so improving on the handling, not saying its bad now even, is just some minor suspension upgrades.
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Old 04-01-2011, 05:25 PM   #80
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How many Boss 302 are even being made?

Isn't it just a 2 year run and about 2,000 units?

By the time a Z28 comes out it won't have anything to compete against, assuming it comes out as a 2013 MY.
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Yes!
I just looked at the specs on the Shelby GT350, it weighs almost 4,000 lbs.
yet its stats are impressive.
0-60 = 4.2
1/4 = 12.4
skidpad = .99
Slalom = 69.2 mph
Those were Shelby estimates, The GT350 would also be way higher than the Z28's MSRP. here is the spread sheet:

Edit: That might be the N/A GT350, but there hasn't been a test done on that yet. Below is the mid-model GT350.
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How many Boss 302 are even being made?

Isn't it just a 2 year run and about 2,000 units?

By the time a Z28 comes out it won't have anything to compete against, assuming it comes out as a 2013 MY.
There will be 4000 Boss 302's made each year. 750 of those will be Boss 302 Laguna Seca models. I have heard that the Laguna Seca is just a 2012 Boss special model, the 2013 Boss special model will be called something else. I have heard some rumors on the name but will not mention it until it is solid.
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How many Boss 302 are even being made?

Isn't it just a 2 year run and about 2,000 units?

By the time a Z28 comes out it won't have anything to compete against, assuming it comes out as a 2013 MY.
You are incorrect.
According to Road and Track the Boss has NO limit. However the Boss LS does.
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Those were Shelby estimates, The GT350 would also be way higher than the Z28's MSRP. here is the spread sheet:

Edit: That might be the N/A GT350, but there hasn't been a test done on that yet. Below is the mid-model GT350.
Thanks, my point is, that a so called heavy car can handle and perform.
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Thanks, my point is, that a so called heavy car can handle and perform.
If the Z28 was N/A,it wouldn't really put on that much weight. Suspension would add a few pounds, you could possibly get some of that extra damper/spring weight back with some light weight IRS links and sways. If the chassis were tied together that would put on weight, then you would have to look into the wheel/tire combo and get that weight back.

the Pedders Camaro did not under go any weight reduction, it weighed 4197lbs and it was close to setting track records. It was using 305's all the way around but running a square setup is ideal for road racing.
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