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Old 02-19-2009, 10:12 AM   #18
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Looks like the Camaro, along with the Corvette and the other Chevy brands will survive per the GM plan submitted to the government. Hummer, Saturn, Saab and maybe even Pontiac are toast. But if you think there will be a mega-horsepower Z-28 any time soon you are dreaming! This is a matter of GM surviving, man! If the General thought the Camaro (or any other car) was a money loser, it would get the axe in a New York second!

Everybody I talk to (NOT people on this forum) that has seen a picture of this car thinks GM has hit a home run on this one. May not put the Mustang out of business, but I think this inexpensive car will help the General recover!

Saturn has a chance!

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Old 02-19-2009, 10:26 AM   #19
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Saturn may survive but it's not looking good. And I agree with saving the SS's while we can. It's like spending money to save those pandas or other endangered species I feel bad knowing that in maybe just a few years, laws may be passed that make it impossible for my future kids to own a 426hp V8. But I bet we'll see some sort of grandfather clause act, where we get to keep ours and hand them down and all the SUV's with 24's, that are driven by soccer moms, and are constantly curb jumping are axed, which WILL mean more gas for us. Sorry to bash on SUV's, but most people do NOT need them and especially do not need huge rims that suck more gas. Limit V8's to performance cars and work vehicles please!
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:39 AM   #20
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Contact your elected officials and tell them what you want. It's that easy. If they don't do what you say, I can still guarantee they considered it. It is their job to represent the electorate.
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:47 AM   #21
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I know it's rather selfish of me, in fact really selfish, but if the SS was canceled the day after they built mine, I don't think I'd be heartbroken at the sudden exclusivity of my car.
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Old 02-19-2009, 12:46 PM   #22
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I know it's rather selfish of me, in fact really selfish, but if the SS was canceled the day after they built mine, I don't think I'd be heartbroken at the sudden exclusivity of my car.
Be careful what you wish for. They may stop building them right after mine, and yours is the next one
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Old 02-19-2009, 02:11 PM   #23
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SVT disbanded years ago. Look at what FORD has without SVT. This is probably more just to look good for Uncle Sam.
So I guess the SVT badging on the GT500s have nothing to do with SVT then...
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Old 02-19-2009, 02:24 PM   #24
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So I guess the SVT badging on the GT500s have nothing to do with SVT then...
Well SVT did have something to do with the Gt500 .. (Not as much as with the 03/04 cobras though) ... I think he was trying to say that FORD has been doing just fine without the SVT name .... Chevy will do the same ..

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Old 02-19-2009, 03:00 PM   #25
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I bought 2,000 shares of GM @ $2.00 a share ~10mins ago. Let's go GM! I'm buying one of your cars in support and I now own some of your company! Cut the pigs that don't sell. Hang up the divisions that aren't profitable. Fire the people that don't want to work. Give the unions the middle finger if they can't compromise. When you hit the bottom it's easy to see the top!
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Old 02-19-2009, 03:03 PM   #26
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Not toast! Put on hold. When and if the economy turns around, every thing changes!
That might not necessarily be the case. GM could decide to indefinetly put the programs on hold.
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Old 02-19-2009, 03:55 PM   #27
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Corvette Racing is leaving GT1 for more competition in GT2. Is this going to effect the GT2 program?
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Old 03-01-2009, 11:01 AM   #28
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Well SVT did have something to do with the Gt500 .. (Not as much as with the 03/04 cobras though) ... I think he was trying to say that FORD has been doing just fine without the SVT name .... Chevy will do the same ..

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What are you talking about? SVT designed and engineered the vehicle that became the Shelby GT500. Had the timing not been right and Ford/Shelby not reunited, the car still would have been produced, just not at a GT500 or bearing Shelby's name on it.

Of course, you could always point to the SVT F150 Raptor as the most recent proof that SVT is alive and well at Ford.
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Old 03-01-2009, 12:07 PM   #29
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High performance vehicles division. How many people buy these cars? I can still get 400hp Corvette's and Camaros, i can get a 300hp Cadillac. I can get a 260 hp Malibu. Sounds good to me.
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Old 03-01-2009, 02:02 PM   #30
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pry them from my cold dead fingers. rs/ss on order
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Old 03-01-2009, 02:30 PM   #31
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It won't hurt my feelings any to see Hummer,Saab,Pontiac go away,I do feel that saturn deserves a chance though,at least for now.Pontiac has IMHO always had the worst styling of all GM's divisions,along with Saab(yuk!)Their cars look the same today as they did 15 years ago(still ugly)Hummer...who cares?Only the rich can afford to drive them anyway.

No mention of Buick?But then again,gotta have a car for all those senior citizens out thereSo i think it's good for GM to cut-off some of the "Fat",unfortunatelly though i feel sorry for all the auto workers who are gonna loose their jobs because of it:(
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Old 03-01-2009, 03:27 PM   #32
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I had read that Buick's are more popular overseas countries.
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Old 03-01-2009, 03:30 PM   #33
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The performance division was disbanded...but the Camaro SS, for instance...was not produced under the performance division. As such -- there will be future sporty versions of GM cars. They'll just be built as production models, like the Camaro SS, instead of "oh, and lets to this", like the Cobalt SS. No need to get your panties in a bunch.
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pry them from my cold dead fingers. rs/ss on order
what year is your C-10?
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