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Old 02-19-2009, 12:27 AM   #1
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Oil Capacity LS3

Was kinda awed that the LS3 has an 8.6 quart oil capacity.

That is all..

Just didn't know if anyone else realized oil changes would cost $20 more.
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:14 AM   #2
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:26 AM   #3
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If you are going to use synthetic alot more than that. About 80 to 100.
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:30 AM   #4
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I heard the LS3 doesn't need oil changes...You just change out engines every 250,000 miles.
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:41 AM   #5
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I heard the LS3 doesn't need oil changes...You just change out engines every 250,000 miles.
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:20 AM   #6
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You'd almost assume it has a dry sump system with that capacity. I think it's that large because of the oil cooler. No complaints here though, I don't mind paying more for an oil change if it means I get more of it protecting my engine.
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:54 AM   #7
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If you are going to use synthetic alot more than that. About 80 to 100.
$80? What brand of oil you using? I can get it done for $40-$50 depending on if I need to buy an oil filter.

Personally I'm not worried about the cost. Synthetic gets more mileage per quart then dino and with such a large capacity, you should be able to get 12-15k between oil changes easy.
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You'd almost assume it has a dry sump system with that capacity. I think it's that large because of the oil cooler. No complaints here though, I don't mind paying more for an oil change if it means I get more of it protecting my engine.
If you look at the pics it looks like the HUGE oil pan is the cause.

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$80? What brand of oil you using? I can get it done for $40-$50 depending on if I need to buy an oil filter.

Personally I'm not worried about the cost. Synthetic gets more mileage per quart then dino and with such a large capacity, you should be able to get 12-15k between oil changes easy.
Average cost of good synthetic 6.00
x
9.00 quarts
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= 54.00
+
an equally capable filter 10.00
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$64.00 to do it yourself, add a little more for a shops time. And if your going to go 15k miles between changes your gonna need that $10-$15 oil filter.
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Old 02-19-2009, 12:35 PM   #9
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If you look at the pics it looks like the HUGE oil pan is the cause.



Average cost of good synthetic 6.00
x
9.00 quarts
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= 54.00
+
an equally capable filter 10.00
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$64.00 to do it yourself, add a little more for a shops time. And if your going to go 15k miles between changes your gonna need that $10-$15 oil filter.

Or consider changing that filter a couple times during that interval. I've seen (somewhere) that synthetic oil doesn't really break-down, per se, but it just get contaminated by combustion blow-by and such. I personally don't care - I'll still be changing oil every 3-5K miles.
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Old 02-19-2009, 12:38 PM   #10
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I did not realize the LS3 has an oil capacity of 8.6 quarts; however I am sure the Camaro will have an oil life monitering system which will tell you when the oil need to be changed. My wife's 2005 Monte Carlo has such a moniter
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Old 02-19-2009, 12:45 PM   #11
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This is horrible of me, but I run synthetic in my cobalt and I only change the oil when the car tells me to. I changed it every 3-5K at first, but with my new job I decided to let it go one time (which I am currently still doing) and see how long the car recommends between changes.

I must say though, when it comes to my 'maro then I will be changing the oil more frequently, and with better quality then I have before. I hear royal purple is good, and good things about mobil1.
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If you look at the pics it looks like the HUGE oil pan is the cause.



Average cost of good synthetic 6.00
x
9.00 quarts
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= 54.00
+
an equally capable filter 10.00
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$64.00 to do it yourself, add a little more for a shops time. And if your going to go 15k miles between changes your gonna need that $10-$15 oil filter.
Most brands now a days offer 5 quart jugs for cheaper then what 5 individual quarts cost. The last time this topic came up I priced checked some prices. At Walmart you could buy 1 quart of synthetic of $6 or a 5 quart jug for $22.
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Old 02-19-2009, 03:44 PM   #13
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If you are going to use synthetic alot more than that. About 80 to 100.
Cost of 6 quarts of Pennzoil Platinum @ $6.49 quart $39..

Add 3 more quarts to make up the 5.5 qt. capacity of LS1 to LS3 @ 8.6 quarts.. 3 x $6.49 plus 6% tax equals $20.67

An additional $20 per oil change.
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I used to work for an engine oil additive company working on proprietary additive packages for leading oil companies. The weakest link is your oil filter and soot when running synthetic oil. Synthetic oils may be a LITTLE better at suspending solids but still marginally better than dino oil which means sludge will still build up in your engine. Increase the oil capacity will dilute the sludge meaning you can go a little longer before reaching the same detrimental effects...

Oil change intervals very depending on your climate, area of use, and driving habits. I've seen engines run for 25,000 miles nonstop 24/7 in the testing bay with synthetic oil and have vertually identical viscosity and lubricating parameters; however, the cylinder walls were still scratched. On analysis, the oil had very high amounts of aluminum and suspended carbon deposits.

I change the oil in my cars with mobile 1 10w30 full syn every 5,000 miles. I drive my cars like I stole them.

I will change the oil in my Camaro after break-in though. From there on, every 5k should do the trick.

I have personally ran all the tests listed in this PDF... http://www.amsoil.com/lit/g1971.pdf
Amsoil is listed #1 in all the tests...my personal results varied a bit but mobile 1 and amsoil were neck and neck!
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I change the oil in my cars with mobile 1 10w30 full syn every 5,000 miles. I drive my cars like I stole them.
That is my plan of action for the Camaro. As well as the way I will drive it part.
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Old 02-19-2009, 06:06 PM   #16
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just look at the oil on the dipstick,dirty=change ,clean= dont change.i dont need a computer for that.

my first few oil changes will be very frequent.just to make sure it catches all the flash(if any),i will be using amsoil .

Oh and remember to think with your dipstick

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I used to work for an engine oil additive company working on proprietary additive packages for leading oil companies. The weakest link is your oil filter and soot when running synthetic oil. Synthetic oils may be a LITTLE better at suspending solids but still marginally better than dino oil which means sludge will still build up in your engine. Increase the oil capacity will dilute the sludge meaning you can go a little longer before reaching the same detrimental effects...

Oil change intervals very depending on your climate, area of use, and driving habits. I've seen engines run for 25,000 miles nonstop 24/7 in the testing bay with synthetic oil and have vertually identical viscosity and lubricating parameters; however, the cylinder walls were still scratched. On analysis, the oil had very high amounts of aluminum and suspended carbon deposits.

I change the oil in my cars with mobile 1 10w30 full syn every 5,000 miles. I drive my cars like I stole them.

I will change the oil in my Camaro after break-in though. From there on, every 5k should do the trick.

I have personally ran all the tests listed in this PDF... http://www.amsoil.com/lit/g1971.pdf
Amsoil is listed #1 in all the tests...my personal results varied a bit but mobile 1 and amsoil were neck and neck!
Excellant post! I am a hydraulic engineer so I enjoyed reading the results of the test of the various motor oils.
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