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Old 02-19-2009, 10:02 AM   #1
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Exclamation Weekly Order Constraints FEB 19,2009

A little busy this morning guys, have some GM guests here, so I'll save the long winded report and just give you the facts.

THE FINAL ALLOCATION "BY WEEK" REPORT IS OUT. Any dealer getting a Camaro can tell you what week the order will be tagged and pulled...a process that start son Thursday through Saturday.

TODAY, ORDERS ARE BEING TAGGED AND RELEASED for production consideration...estimate build weeks of orders released today 3/16-3/22

CONSTRAINTS SHOWN TO US BY GM TODAY ARE:

1EE37 1LS - 0 AVAILBALE NATIONALLY
1EF37 1LT - 0 AVAILABLE NATIONALLY
1EH37 2LT - 0 AVAILABLE NATIONALLY

GBV - CYBER GREY - 0 AVAILABLE NATIONALLY
VYV HUST SHIFTER LPO - 0 AVAILABLE NATIONALLY


If you order allocation is to be pulled this week and one of your order items are on this list, either you'l have to change the order or wait until dealer has another allocation slot. You CANNOT defer allocation....

ALL dealers know between now and 3/12 when and how many Camaro's will be released..we do not know what they are until we review this report each and every week...folks, these are the facts and hope they help.

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Old 02-19-2009, 10:08 AM   #2
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Thanks, although my dealer didn't get a March availability so I won't be built till April. When is the consensus for April?
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:13 AM   #3
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This really makes me sad. I simply cannot understand the logic behind putting off *sold* V6 orders so that each dealer can have one camaro. We are talking about sold orders here. This whole thing is very off-putting, especially considering there is no telling when Chevy will begin to accept sold V6 orders.

Thank you for the info though.
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Thanks for your time and all the great info you give each week...
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:43 AM   #5
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So...my dealer said his first allocation will be received on 5 March...he didn't receive anything for this first run (3/16 - 3/22)...or at least that is what I take it as?

The next run he will not either (3/23 - 3/29) based on his first allocation being 5 March.

I am to assume (considering no constraints) I would be in the next batch (3/30 - 4/5) since I am #1 at the dealer?

Is this correct? Again, assuming no constraints at the time?
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:26 AM   #6
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So...my dealer said his first allocation will be received on 5 March...he didn't receive anything for this first run (3/16 - 3/22)...or at least that is what I take it as?

The next run he will not either (3/23 - 3/29) based on his first allocation being 5 March.

I am to assume (considering no constraints) I would be in the next batch (3/30 - 4/5) since I am #1 at the dealer?

Is this correct? Again, assuming no constraints at the time?
Legend, it's the monthly concensus that tells your dealer how many pre-orders he'll get to submit for a 30 day build period. The allocation, which is weekly (the OP above) tells him what type of car he can order, based on the constraints. If he got zero cars in the Feb. concensus for the 3/16 - 3/31 build period, then he may get some in the early March concensus for the April 1-30 build period. So your order might be submitted in April sometime.
Note, the Feb. concensus was only for a two week period to the end of March!

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Old 02-19-2009, 11:41 AM   #7
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oK I need to vent. Don't get me wrong I am a huge camaro fan and have been forever. Plus i will wait ever how long i have to to get my car. I ordered a v6 back in october. The camaro has been delayed over and over again for this or that reason since they first said the camaro would go into production. I mean wouldn't you think after all the delays that gm would be at the top of there game and have no constraints what so ever. I mean they have had long enough. Its just sad that people who have the money put there name down months ago are going to have to wait on a car to be put at dealers for those to come in a buy a car and get it the same time or before us who have been waiting so patiently for years.
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:44 AM   #8
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A little busy this morning guys, have some GM guests here, so I'll save the long winded report and just give you the facts.

THE FINAL ALLOCATION REPORT IS OUT. Any dealer getting a Camaro can tell you what week the order will be tagged and pulled...a process that start son Thursday through Saturday.

TODAY, ORDERS ARE BEING TAGGED AND RELEASED for production consideration...estimate build weeks of orders released today 3/16-3/22

CONSTRAINTS SHOWN TO US BY GM TODAY ARE:

1EE37 1LS - 0 AVAILBALE NATIONALLY
1EF37 1LT - 0 AVAILABLE NATIONALLY
1EH37 2LT - 0 AVAILABLE NATIONALLY

GBV - CYBER GREY - 0 AVAILABLE NATIONALLY
VYV HUST SHIFTER LPO - 0 AVAILABLE NATIONALLY


If you order allocation is to be pulled this week and one of your order items are on this list, either you'l have to change the order or wait until dealer has another allocation slot. You CANNOT defer allocation....

ALL dealers know between now and 3/12 when and how many Camaro's will be released..we do not know what they are until we review this report each and every week...some dealers can pretend to give you data....folks, these are the facts and hope they help.

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I just got a call from my dealer in here in Houston and he informed me that my Cyber Grey 2SS has been pulled for production starting March 16, 2009. SO......... maybe the threads about Cyber Grey being delayed are not 100% accurate??? I guess we shall see what plays out in the next few weeks. I am so amped right now!
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:47 AM   #9
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ALL dealers know between now and 3/12 when and how many Camaro's will be released..we do not know what they are until we review this report each and every week...some dealers can pretend to give you data....folks, these are the facts and hope they help.

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Can anyone enlighten me on this topic? what exactly us unkown, is this orders after 3/16-3/22 build week?
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This settles it, dumping VYV when my dealer calls back. As much as I want it on the sticker, I'll add it later, I need a car.
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This settles it, dumping VYV when my dealer calls back. As much as I want it on the sticker, I'll add it later, I need a car.
According to another recent report, the Hurst Shifter has changed codes and is now an RPO. You can still get it but you will have to tell the dealer to change it to the RPO code once the code is released.
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Old 02-19-2009, 12:05 PM   #12
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According to another recent report, the Hurst Shifter has changed codes and is now an RPO. You can still get it but you will have to tell the dealer to change it to the RPO code once the code is released.
I think you need to re-read. I believe it said that it would be added LATER as an RPO, but any near-term orders need to have it removed.
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If I were Chevrolet...

I would concentrate on getting the SS and 2SS's out on the street first. This would create the buzz that will drive more demand for less expensive models over the next 6 months or so, helping them to get to their break even numbers sooner. This also positions them for higher sales when the economy eases up a bit.

Do you think that is the strategy?
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I just got a call from my dealer in here in Houston and he informed me that my Cyber Grey 2SS has been pulled for production starting March 16, 2009. SO......... maybe the threads about Cyber Grey being delayed are not 100% accurate??? I guess we shall see what plays out in the next few weeks. I am so amped right now!
How does this make sense...maybe it was pulled and will just sit and wait in the system or what?
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Legend, it's the monthly concensus that tells your dealer how many pre-orders he'll get to submit for a 30 day build period. The allocation, which is weekly (the OP above) tells him what type of car he can order, based on the constraints. If he got zero cars in the Feb. concensus for the 3/16 - 3/31 build period, then he may get some in the early March concensus for the April 1-30 build period. So your order might be submitted in April sometime.
Note, the Feb. concensus was only for a two week period to the end of March!

Thanks EVS guys!
I've seen this consensus time-frame thrown up a couple of time - that the 1st allocation is for March 16 - 31 only (and not for a 30 day period). But I have not seen that confirmed by any of our dealers. If it has, could someone direct me to that thread?

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^^^The first concensus being for a two week period was told to me by CamaroScotty....I swear!


There's an allocation containing constraints every week, so this week's allocation is only going to affect those SS's pulled between now and next Thursday the 26th.

I don't think there's an RPO code yet for the Hurst, but I can't believe it's far off. This shifter has been planned from the beginning, I can't believe it's in short supply. And RPO gets on the window sticker too.
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According to another recent report, the Hurst Shifter has changed codes and is now an RPO. You can still get it but you will have to tell the dealer to change it to the RPO code once the code is released.
Yeah but the way it is worded it seems like its something that will be added later, not soon. They are saying the orders will be pulled in the other thread, meaning they will just delay the order till this option is ready... Maybe its a few days, maybe a few weeks who knows, rather not roll the dice.
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I've seen this consensus time-frame thrown up a couple of time - that the 1st allocation is for March 16 - 31 only (and not for a 30 day period). But I have not seen that confirmed by any of our dealers. If it has, could someone direct me to that thread?

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Each consesus represents what can be produced during the next month's production run. Since production is scheduled to start on the 16th of March, it only covers from the 16th to the 31st. If it were starting on the 1st of March, it would cover the entire month. For April, it will run from April 1st to April 30th.
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I just spoke with my dealer, he confirmed that my son's order for a IBM 2SS/RS w/white stripes will be "pulled" on 3/5.

That's great news since my son is due back from Iraq in early April. What a great Home Coming gift.
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That's gotta make the return just a little sweeter. Are you affected by the Hurst shifter? Hopefully the stripe RPOs are out by then....got two more allocations to go.
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I just spoke with my dealer, he confirmed that my son's order for a IBM 2SS/RS w/white stripes will be "pulled" on 3/5.

That's great news since my son is due back from Iraq in early April. What a great Home Coming gift.
That's great, hopefully he won't have to wait around too long for his car. Depending on when you car hits the production line, it'll be there as early as second week of April or as late as the second week of May.
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ok i cant............

get any info from my dealer------on febuary 7th the day after the concenses--i called him to see what allocation he was given----he said hes heard nothing from GM.
but he would check into and call me-----------of course no call---a few days later i emailed the general manager asked him the same thing --he said the guys that checked the computer on those things for the camaro were off that day.

i waited a couple daysand called my salesman with the same questions and again he said he wpuld look into it and call me bac
---of course no call.

today after reading this page i called the sales manager--he was busy with a customer---left a message on jis voice for a call back covering the the same thing

the reason i want to know what allocattion he got on the febuary concenses s because im number 2 on their list--maybe it got none or only one--but i was never told to this day

now it becomes even more important after reading the message above cuz although im number 2---an ss/rs rally yellow/black hood stripes., the first on their list is a v-6-----does that mean i could be bumped to number one???

so the things i need to know --what is my staus level---how many allocations they got for the febuary concensus---what todays report does to my staus level-------BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT I CANT GET ANY INFO FROM MY FIGGIN DEALERSSSS!!!!!!!!!!

AND PLEASE IM A LITTLE CONFUSED ON ONE THING WHEN WAS OR IS THE DATE IF THEY GOT AN ALLOCATION ON THE FEB. 6TH CONCENSES. THAT THEY MUST PUT IN MY ORDER--AND WHAT IS THE DATE THEY MUST PUT IN THEIR ORDER FROM THE ABOVE POST THANK YOU
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^^^And they wonder why we drink heavily!!!

Only your dealer/GM can go into the system and find out if he got any cars in the first concensus. Yes, you're now number 1, he cannot submit an order for a V6, of course there are three more weekly allocations to go before production begins. I doubt the V6 constraint will be lifted though.
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If I were Chevrolet...

I would concentrate on getting the SS and 2SS's out on the street first. This would create the buzz that will drive more demand for less expensive models over the next 6 months or so, helping them to get to their break even numbers sooner. This also positions them for higher sales when the economy eases up a bit.

Do you think that is the strategy?
you wouldn't feel that way if you had ordered a V6 now would you???
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get any info from my dealer------on febuary 7th the day after the concenses--i called him to see what allocation he was given----he said hes heard nothing from GM.
but he would check into and call me-----------of course no call---a few days later i emailed the general manager asked him the same thing --he said the guys that checked the computer on those things for the camaro were off that day.

i waited a couple daysand called my salesman with the same questions and again he said he wpuld look into it and call me bac
---of course no call.

today after reading this page i called the sales manager--he was busy with a customer---left a message on jis voice for a call back covering the the same thing

the reason i want to know what allocattion he got on the febuary concenses s because im number 2 on their list--maybe it got none or only one--but i was never told to this day

now it becomes even more important after reading the message above cuz although im number 2---an ss/rs rally yellow/black hood stripes., the first on their list is a v-6-----does that mean i could be bumped to number one???

Quite simply (IMO) yes, you are now #1 based on the V6 constraints.

so the things i need to know --what is my staus level---how many allocations they got for the febuary concensus---what todays report does to my staus level-------BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT I CANT GET ANY INFO FROM MY FIGGIN DEALERSSSS!!!!!!!!!!

AND PLEASE IM A LITTLE CONFUSED ON ONE THING WHEN WAS OR IS THE DATE IF THEY GOT AN ALLOCATION ON THE FEB. 6TH CONCENSES. THAT THEY MUST PUT IN MY ORDER--AND WHAT IS THE DATE THEY MUST PUT IN THEIR ORDER FROM THE ABOVE POST THANK YOU
On Feb 6th each dealer KNEW what they were OR WERE NOT getting in the March production run. That's a fact.
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