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Old 02-25-2009, 01:26 AM   #1
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My dream car has been a corvette since I was a kid. Camaros came in a close second. In high school (the mid80's) I positively drooled ove the Z28. Instead I had a '82 malibu and then an '86 caprice. By the time I could buy my own camaro it was the mid 90's. Now don't hate on me but I just didn't like the 90's body style. And I still couldn't afford a vette.
Last year I traded my camry (yawn) in for an Infiniti G35 Sport. Not my dream car, but it's pretty and fast enough and the reliability appealed to my more pragmatic side. I'd had it for 6 months when I heard about the new camaro. It looked awesome, so I did a bunch of research and fell in love. I'd like to get a 2SS/rs in black with cyber grey stripes or in cyber grey with black stripes. As far as I can tell, both those options are possible. To the questions...
Does anyone have an idea of the app. price tag on that. I've guestimated around 36k.
I've never done a trade-in. I put down 18k on my infiniti and still owe about 18k. Would GM work with that or do I need to sell my infiniti on my own?
Does anyone know of a decent dealership within 50 or so miles of the Austin, TX area.
Thanks everyone.
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Old 02-25-2009, 01:32 AM   #2
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First of all......Welcome to the board!!!


I would try and sell it outright if I was you. Dealers usually lowball people and actually make more money selling used cars than they do on new ones. They only have about $1-2K to play with on a new one usually and used ones they buy low and sell high. I have a friend that used to sell cars and I have no idea how he made $100K a year because he didn't look like the smartest man in the world but he knew to sell used cars instead of the new ones.

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Hi all,
My dream car has been a corvette since I was a kid. Camaros came in a close second. In high school (the mid80's) I positively drooled ove the Z28. Instead I had a '82 malibu and then an '86 caprice. By the time I could buy my own camaro it was the mid 90's. Now don't hate on me but I just didn't like the 90's body style. And I still couldn't afford a vette.
Last year I traded my camry (yawn) in for an Infiniti G35 Sport. Not my dream car, but it's pretty and fast enough and the reliability appealed to my more pragmatic side. I'd had it for 6 months when I heard about the new camaro. It looked awesome, so I did a bunch of research and fell in love. I'd like to get a 2SS/rs in black with cyber grey stripes or in cyber grey with black stripes. As far as I can tell, both those options are possible. To the questions...
Does anyone have an idea of the app. price tag on that. I've guestimated around 36k.
I've never done a trade-in. I put down 18k on my infiniti and still owe about 18k. Would GM work with that or do I need to sell my infiniti on my own?
Does anyone know of a decent dealership within 50 or so miles of the Austin, TX area.
Thanks everyone.
Miriam
first off, welcome! it's always great to have more camaro lovers!

as for an approximate price, that's pretty close. last 2SS pricing i saw has an MSRP of $34,180. add the stripes for $510, and $995 if you want the automatic.

i've never done a trade-in either, so i can't tell you how all that works, but you'll more than likely get more for the G35 if you sell it yourself.

there's a thread around here showing dealers selling for MSRP or less. there's bound to be one near you. let me find it...
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=621
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Old 02-25-2009, 01:38 AM   #5
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36k is about right with a ton of opps. Search the sight theirs a ton of info on pricing and opps. As far as a dealer sorry can help.
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Old 02-25-2009, 01:59 AM   #6
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Hi all,
My dream car has been a corvette since I was a kid. Camaros came in a close second. In high school (the mid80's) I positively drooled ove the Z28. Instead I had a '82 malibu and then an '86 caprice. By the time I could buy my own camaro it was the mid 90's. Now don't hate on me but I just didn't like the 90's body style. And I still couldn't afford a vette.
Last year I traded my camry (yawn) in for an Infiniti G35 Sport. Not my dream car, but it's pretty and fast enough and the reliability appealed to my more pragmatic side. I'd had it for 6 months when I heard about the new camaro. It looked awesome, so I did a bunch of research and fell in love. I'd like to get a 2SS/rs in black with cyber grey stripes or in cyber grey with black stripes. As far as I can tell, both those options are possible. To the questions...
Does anyone have an idea of the app. price tag on that. I've guestimated around 36k.
I've never done a trade-in. I put down 18k on my infiniti and still owe about 18k. Would GM work with that or do I need to sell my infiniti on my own?
Does anyone know of a decent dealership within 50 or so miles of the Austin, TX area.
Thanks everyone.
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Old 02-25-2009, 01:59 AM   #7
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First of I gotta say you have made an excellent choice with the color schemes. I have a Black 2SS on order with CGM stripes . I've also considered the reverse scheme but I'm not going to change it til I see CGM in person and also see pics of the car in full CGM paint. As to the pricing here is what my car should be

33,430 - base price
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$36,155 GRAND TOTAL is what I'm expecting my MSRP to be
(prices were all taken from the list here which was released in mid Oct. when ordering first opened up http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8239)

As it's been stated if you want to get the most for your car you need to try to sell it yourself. If you are going to trade make sure to get a feel for what the car is worth. You can use sites like kbb.com and nadaguides.com to give you a rough estimate. Also check Ebay and autotrader to see what other dealers/owners are trying to get for the same car. Bottom line is the dealer is only going to give you what they can get a similar car for at the auctions so don't expect to get as much as you see on the websites, especially since you are buying a next gen Camaro the dealer probably won't budge on the MSRP price. Dealers are usually always happy to work with trade-ins cause that's where most of the profits are at is the used cars and service work. Hope that helps.
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Old 02-25-2009, 02:56 AM   #10
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Old 02-25-2009, 03:59 AM   #11
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Old 02-25-2009, 04:47 AM   #12
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I pretty much agree with everyone elses post on the cost of the new camaro.

As for trading in your car, I would try selling it outright since you will have time before your camaro arrives.

For example, my brother traded in a Hyndai Accent a few years ago for $1,500 for a Nissan Xterra. I went the the dealership two weeks later to see it in their lot listing it as one owner excellent condition for $9,500. (The car actually had transmission and brake issues when traded in and found the new owner a few months later and he said he bought the car w/ a bad transmission and fading brakes).

If you know someone who needs a car like a family member or a friend, maybe give them a break in price than what the dealer is willing to give you. I told my brother he should of sold it to me since I was without a car at that time.

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Old 02-25-2009, 07:15 AM   #13
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Hi all,
My dream car has been a corvette since I was a kid. Camaros came in a close second. In high school (the mid80's) I positively drooled ove the Z28. Instead I had a '82 malibu and then an '86 caprice. By the time I could buy my own camaro it was the mid 90's. Now don't hate on me but I just didn't like the 90's body style. And I still couldn't afford a vette.
Last year I traded my camry (yawn) in for an Infiniti G35 Sport. Not my dream car, but it's pretty and fast enough and the reliability appealed to my more pragmatic side. I'd had it for 6 months when I heard about the new camaro. It looked awesome, so I did a bunch of research and fell in love. I'd like to get a 2SS/rs in black with cyber grey stripes or in cyber grey with black stripes. As far as I can tell, both those options are possible. To the questions...
Does anyone have an idea of the app. price tag on that. I've guestimated around 36k.
I've never done a trade-in. I put down 18k on my infiniti and still owe about 18k. Would GM work with that or do I need to sell my infiniti on my own?
Does anyone know of a decent dealership within 50 or so miles of the Austin, TX area.
Thanks everyone.
Miriam
Welcome Miriam.....personally, I don't trade in cars. Sell it yourself if possible. If you trade it in you aren't going to get as much for it.You've come to a good place for info and you've chosen the right car. There is a dealer in or around Austin that some people on this board have used. Henna Chevrolet, 8805 N I-35, Austin, TX. Not sure if they have any allocation left, but if you plan to buy after March 15th, it won't matter.
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Old 02-25-2009, 07:33 AM   #14
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Welcome! Something else that you need to take into consideration is that if you sell your car yourself, you'll be paying sales tax on the entire purchase price of your new Camaro. However, if you trade your present car in, you'll only pay sales tax on the difference in the value of the two cars. As new as your car is, it will be worth quite a bit, so you won't have to pay very much in sales tax. kbb.com can tell you the trade-in value of your car. When you find a dealer that you like and are ready to place an order, ask them to bid your car in its present condition. They should be willing to do so, but won't commit to paying that in a few months (too many things can change in that time). But, at least in will give you a pretty good idea what they will be willing to do.
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Your first move was the correct one. Joining this forum and educating yourself about the camaro. When you go to the dealer you will unlikely know much more about the car than he/she will. Because you are female they will try to take advantage; we all know that or at least are wary of it. Let the salesperson talk to you about the car and come back to the forum and give us all a laugh. People on here are very knowledgable and willing to answer any question. Don't be impetuous and fall victim to the dealer before coming back to the forum for the correct answers.
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Welcome.

But consider 3/11 the last day to be ordering...3/15 is a sunday, 3/14 is a busy day at dealerships, and the dealer may do ordering on Thursdays...

Dealers may or may not have allocation for the first run of cars through September...and many are saying they do, but they do not and there's no way for them to prove it to you. Any dealer over his allocation is selling cars out of the last quarter of 2009 - not a bad thing, you'll still get a car, and the price is locked in regardless when it arrives, if it ordered BEFORE the date I mentioned above.
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Welcome to the site Yup everyone here is right you will get more money for your car to sell it outright, on your own.

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if this applies but here in Florida you get a tax break if you trade in your car. The trick is how much you need on the open market to match your tax break with a trade-in
i.e. Cost of Camaro $36,000 your trade in value $16,000 you would pay a tax on $20,000. If you sell your car outright you would be taxed on the $36,000 and then they take off your down payment.

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If you purchase this year you get a federal write off on sales tax so it isn't quite as big an issue as it would have been last year
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I would suggest that you have the dealer give you a firm trade-in price on your car when the order changes status and is going to be built. Then you will have a month or so to sell it on your own and if you can't get more, then trade it in. This advise is worth just what it cost you. Good luck.
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Welcome.

But consider 3/11 the last day to be ordering...3/15 is a sunday, 3/14 is a busy day at dealerships, and the dealer may do ordering on Thursdays...

Dealers may or may not have allocation for the first run of cars through September...and many are saying they do, but they do not and there's no way for them to prove it to you. Any dealer over his allocation is selling cars out of the last quarter of 2009 - not a bad thing, you'll still get a car, and the price is locked in regardless when it arrives, if it ordered BEFORE the date I mentioned above.
Is this common for dealers to place orders on Thursday? That's what my guy said. He saves orders during the week and weekend and places them on Thursday.

Oh, and on a side note.................. I got 1000.00 (refundable if there is a problem) if I just decide I don't want the car, it's non-refundable. Thanks for the offer though.
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Welcome from your forum members, north of the boarder I'm sure everyone has answered your questions, in many different ways, but with the same outcome.
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Ditto on all advice given. Here's another, use your credit card for the deposit, AMEX if possible. Should you have to cancel the order, the dealership goes bellyup, whatever, you're less likely to be out the money. With the economy the way it is who knows what will happen between now and the day your car (is supposed) to come in. You can dispute the charge thru your credit card company. AMEX is best at this. Good Luck!
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