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Old 04-06-2011, 03:21 PM   #1
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MSD BAP on 2010 Camaro not recommended????

Just looked at the MSD website for the MSD 2351 BAP and they say

"Note: The Fuel Pump Booster cannot be used on fuel systems without a return line (pulse-modulated pumps)."

Isn't the Camaro using a pulse-modulated pump? I know that Janetty is selling these for use on our cars, so does that mean you have to wire it differently than MSD's instructions to work? Won't this void warranty on the BAP?


Just looking to get the straight scoop.

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Old 04-06-2011, 03:39 PM   #2
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Just looked at the MSD website for the MSD 2351 BAP and they say

"Note: The Fuel Pump Booster cannot be used on fuel systems without a return line (pulse-modulated pumps)."

Isn't the Camaro using a pulse-modulated pump? I know that Janetty is selling these for use on our cars, so does that mean you have to wire it differently than MSD's instructions to work? Won't this void warranty on the BAP?


Just looking to get the straight scoop.

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It is Right, You Can't hook it to the PWM fuel pump, But WRONG, You CAN hook it to the Fuel Pump Control Module.

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Old 04-06-2011, 04:01 PM   #3
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Ted,
I knew you would jump in here and clear it up. I will be contacting you in a month or so to pick one up.

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Old 04-06-2011, 08:08 PM   #4
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It is Right, You Can't hook it to the PWM fuel pump, But WRONG, You CAN hook it to the Fuel Pump Control Module.

We Provide Proper wiring instructions, a Vacuum T and Vacuum line kit with ours Now.

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do you have any data on the actuall fuel pump voltage when wired the way you recomend,, just wondering?? as im thinking of getting this kit also
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Old 04-07-2011, 09:05 AM   #5
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do you have any data on the actuall fuel pump voltage when wired the way you recomend,, just wondering?? as im thinking of getting this kit also
The actual Voltage to the Pump is controlled by the Factory FPCM, but it can only do so much when the supply voltage is inconsistent and or capped at 13 volts.

The MSD Gives the FPCM a better Supply 14.5 volts all the time then rises to 17.5 volts at 10 PSI boost, so it has More Range to do what it needs to, to Maintain Fuel Pressure.

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Old 04-07-2011, 09:08 AM   #6
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Ted, are you guys planning on opening a shop in New Mexico anytime soon....
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Ted, are you guys planning on opening a shop in New Mexico anytime soon....
No Sorry I would never be able to offer the customer service if I spread out, and I don't want to ruin a good thing.

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Old 04-07-2011, 09:34 AM   #8
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The actual Voltage to the Pump is controlled by the Factory FPCM, but it can only do so much when the supply voltage is inconsistent and or capped at 13 volts.

The MSD Gives the FPCM a better Supply 14.5 volts all the time then rises to 17.5 volts at 10 PSI boost, so it has More Range to do what it needs to, to Maintain Fuel Pressure.

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does the voltage rise with low boost for the people not running 10psi boost,,
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Old 04-07-2011, 12:08 PM   #10
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does the voltage rise with low boost for the people not running 10psi boost,,
Depends on the Mapping that is in the MSD, they come with a pre loaded table that works for the majority of all situations, however it can be adjusted via their USB link.

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Old 04-07-2011, 12:12 PM   #11
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does the voltage rise with low boost for the people not running 10psi boost,,
Yes it starts it's voltage rise at 1 psi.
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Yes it starts it's voltage rise at 1 psi.
Topic sorta back from the dead...

I bought one of these, but after repeated attempts, my local tuner could not get it work correctly. Do you have some details on how to get this to work? I have a good,safe tune with my current setup, but he says there's more in there while still staying safe on the A/F ratios.

Just sad to know I have this box mounted in my car, not hooked up, and doing me no good.

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Topic sorta back from the dead...

I bought one of these, but after repeated attempts, my local tuner could not get it work correctly. Do you have some details on how to get this to work? I have a good,safe tune with my current setup, but he says there's more in there while still staying safe on the A/F ratios.

Just sad to know I have this box mounted in my car, not hooked up, and doing me no good.

Thanks in advance.

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Old 10-07-2011, 12:32 PM   #14
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While the MSD may "work" fine I would suggest a ADM Fuel pump assembly, this is the best option in my honest opinion.
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Old 10-07-2011, 01:16 PM   #15
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While the MSD may "work" fine I would suggest a ADM Fuel pump assembly, this is the best option in my honest opinion.
Yes indeed - ADM has three different fuel pump solutions - the latest is the perfect "plug and play" solution instead using a Boost A Pump. There is a pretty new thread on here that tells you all about it... :-)
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i believe ADM will better in the end..but its a lot of $$$ too
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Old 10-07-2011, 01:50 PM   #17
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Nothing wrong with the BAP, lots of camaros are running it with lots of hp and no problems
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Old 10-07-2011, 11:27 PM   #18
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victoryred1ss could you fax the install sheets to me also, thanks 605-766-5231 fax#
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Nothing wrong with the BAP, lots of camaros are running it with lots of hp and no problems
Been running it for 34K abusive miles now. All good so far.
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i believe ADM will better in the end..but its a lot of $$$ too
Lingenfelter is a lil cheaper. Though ADM does have that single pump I am wondering about. If I pay off credit cards got to ask Ted about it
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Our NEW HP Pump is only $499

Has been tested to 618 rwhp in an automatic car with a whipple.
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A boostapump could be added for a pretty easy 700+rwhp auto.
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Our NEW HP Pump is only $499

Has been tested to 618 rwhp in an automatic car with a whipple.
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A boostapump could be added for a pretty easy 700+rwhp auto.
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Our NEW HP Pump is only $499

Has been tested to 618 rwhp in an automatic car with a whipple.
No pressure drop from 2000-6800.Injector duty was 82 percent at 6800.

A boostapump could be added for a pretty easy 700+rwhp auto.
This needs a bump.

Anyone that was considering adding a BAP at those HP levels should give this new ADM solution some serious consideration. Andy should be able to sell a LOT of those.

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