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Old 04-12-2011, 10:17 PM   #1
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Cat back or Axle back..

I'm torn between the 409S flowmaster axle back and the borla attak Axle back..I think it would be a lot easier to cut at the axle then to replace all the way from the cat back.. What do you guys think
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Old 04-12-2011, 10:23 PM   #2
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If your just looking to improve the exhaust note I would go with an axle-back system. If you want the most performance and might upgrade your headers down the road then you may want to go with a cat-back system.

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Old 04-12-2011, 10:38 PM   #3
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I was in your boat per say... I went with the cat back American thunder flowmster exhaust. It has been shipped and on it way. The bigger pipes and the x pipe also help with sound. Plus we all know we will never stop modding so start it out right with a cat back system. Dont need to do it twice.
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Old 04-12-2011, 11:21 PM   #4
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cat backs give better sound.
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Old 04-12-2011, 11:24 PM   #5
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definitely cat back
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Old 04-13-2011, 12:13 AM   #6
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Depends on what exactly your ultimate goal is... if its merely sound quality, go with whichever system has the tone you like best, if your looking for performance also- DEFINITELY go with a 3" cat-back w X pipe!

Im personally a fan of the FM AT system, love that sound!
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Old 04-13-2011, 12:37 AM   #7
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If you have plans down the line, the Catback is smart money.

If you just want something down and dirty to change the sound, hit up the Axleback!

Good luck and enjoy!
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If you plan on ever doing headers, I would stay away from LTs..just my personal preference. Too raspy for LTs. Sounds incredible stand alone..

I will say you can buy a full flowmaster catback system for the cost of the borla ATAK axle back on many Camaro5 venders such as marylandspeed.com like I did. They were running a sale for around 600 bucks for american thunder cat back from Flowmaster...that is an incredible deal.

EDIT: Correction...I meant to say I would stay away from "ATAK" with LTs. Not LTs in general...
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An axleback won't give you much of any power gain. A catback you'll get some horsepower and a slightly better sound. I just got a Solo Catback and love it. Sounds perfect and no drone.
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Catback is easier to install.
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Also, if you ever plan on getting headers down the road be careful. Some headers go to the catback some go to the axleback. Luckily their are a ton of options for these cars but you can if you get an axleback and want some cheaper headers you'll get stuck with that factory cross over pipe. Then you'll probably wish you had the catback. Since I already have my catback I'm ordering the ARH short system.
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Also, if you ever plan on getting headers down the road be careful. Some headers go to the catback some go to the axleback. Luckily their are a ton of options for these cars but you can if you get an axleback and want some cheaper headers you'll get stuck with that factory cross over pipe. Then you'll probably wish you had the catback. Since I already have my catback I'm ordering the ARH short system.
There are no headers that run all the way to the axle back in one fluid run install...zero...none

You are thinking of headers that are sold WITH a connection pipe and xpipe. Which is exactly what a cat back is....so why would he regret his purchase? It is the same thing you would have bought with the long system. You will need a connection pipe regardless if you run stock or aftermarket.

The header packages that come with x pipe run well over 1900-2000 dollars.

Every reputable company makes long tubes and shorties both will install to aftermarket or STOCK catback systems. You will get true performance gains from long tube headers. Those will connect to your catback...period.

EDIT: I need clarification...Are you referring to shortie headers or long tube headers and calling them a "short system"....
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What the hell??

There are no headers that run all the way to the axle back in one fluid run install...zero...none

You are thinking of headers that are sold WITH a connection pipe and xpipe. Which is exactly what a cat back is.... You will need a connection pipe regardless if you run stock or aftermarket.

The header packages that come with x pipe run well over 1900-2000 dollars.

Every reputable company makes long tubes and shorties both will install to aftermarket or STOCK catback systems.

It sounds like you good duped into buying shorties without being educated on the difference. From someone who has gone both pathes, shorties are IMO for show. You will get true performance gains from long tube headers. Those will connect to your catback...period.
I believe he is speaking of the ARH long system, which does connect to your axle-back.
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I believe he is speaking of the ARH long system, which does connect to your axle-back.
I know he is, he doesn't know what he saying..but that has absolutely no bearing on the OPs purchase of axle and catback.

You and I know that is just a header with an x or h pipe. If the OP buys a cat back it will not influence his header purchase what so ever if he calls a reputable vendor who knows better...ARH is the only company that I am aware of that calls LTs with no x a short system. ARH hasn't done anything wrong, but it doesn't sound as though he was told what was included in each package and given the package that cost more...again, not ARH's fault.

Not everyone is as helpful as you, silly goose.
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I know he is, he doesn't know what he saying..but that has absolutely no bearing on the OPs purchase of axle and catback.

You and I know that is just a header with an x or h pipe. If the OP buys a cat back it will not influence his header purchase what so ever if he calls a reputable vendor who knows better...ARH is the only company that I am aware of that calls LTs with no x a short system. ARH hasn't done anything wrong, but it doesn't sound as though he was told what was included in each package and given the package that cost more...again, not ARH's fault.

Not everyone is as helpful as you, silly goose.
I thought the term :silly goose was exclusively used for AXIS
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Woah, easy guy!!! It very much does have an impact on what he buys. What I am saying is that if he wanted a full ARH system down the road. Long system with the full X-pipe which does go to the axleback. Then it would be foolish to buy a catback. Or if he wanted some cheap headers that just replace the manifolds and bolt up to the stock catback getting an axleback still leaves you with a stock restrictive mid pipe. Its just something everyone should think about before buying an exshaust just to have an exhaust on the car.
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