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Old 04-16-2011, 10:57 PM   #26
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GM can either compete against themselves with zl1 or z28 or lose some sales to the Boss for those who want an affordable type of z28 car. For myself i'll either get the zl1 or a 2012 Camaro v6. The 2012 Camaro has 323 HP and it is light and agile (track friendly).
Since the Boss 302 is a limited edition, I wouldn't think GM would think about losing sales to Boss 302s, but the reputation for winning races will sell plenty of GT Premiums and ZL1s and SSs.

What about GM's support for the CTS-V in sanctioned road racing??? Does that mean they're placing greater possibilities on it being a winner than the Camaro?
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Since the Boss 302 is a limited edition, I wouldn't think GM would think about losing sales to Boss 302s, but the reputation for winning races will sell plenty of GT Premiums and ZL1s and SSs.

What about GM's support for the CTS-V in sanctioned road racing??? Does that mean they're placing greater possibilities on it being a winner than the Camaro?
Whats up man? Are you gonna make it over here with that car of yours? I will be coming to the states in a few weeks, I need to do some hands on parts shopping...

Anyway, that CTS-V if fully sponsored by Cadillac. The manufacturers are split and Caddy takes full credit and pays for everything. I know GM ultimately pays for it all but Caddy's race program shouldn't have an effect on Chevrolet. I think the Corvette program takes a large chunk of the funding and factory support but not every Corvette is factory supported. The Camaro GT-R had a second place finish in Grand Am Rolex GT and that Camaro was factory backed so there might be some momentum there. For the most part, the Camaro hasn't been doing well at all in Grand Am. Stevenson had 2 wins last year in GT which one of them was a 1-2 finish in Montreal. In the GS class they had one 3rd place podium I think. I think Stevenson is pretty close to factory support if not already, they are in pretty tight with Pratt and Miller.

I originally thought that the Boss was going to be limited but, I discovered some number discrepancies between what was said to be a 4000 limit and the share of nation allocation plan. Ford said they expected to sell around 4000 initially back in November. The allocation plan went up in January and by that time, the Boss 302's were backdoored, mostly to people that were going to use them and had money in hand. They went pretty quick and I think Ford may have Job#2 or never intended on limiting them in the first place.

This is why the Z28 needs to be announced, the Camaro's primary circuit is Grand Am GT and GS. They need factory support and a production nameplate soon...

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Old 04-18-2011, 12:22 AM   #28
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Won't make it over!

Hey, Pill. I hate to admit it, but it looks like Obama has killed the budget to the point where my company may not be doing further business with DOD. I would surely love to make one more trip at least.

You're probably the smartest guy in this game of speculation. I watched the race on Saturday and it looks like the Camaro has all the speed it needs, it just can't keep tires under the car. In the continental series it looks like the Boss 302s are still the cars to beat, but the M3s look good as well. They had a great 3 or 4 lap finish on Saturday and was glad to see an American car win..even if it was a Ford! LOL.
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Old 04-18-2011, 10:04 AM   #29
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...but it looks like Obama has killed the budget to the point where my company may not be doing further business with DOD.
I feel your pain..We got our paychecks frozen because all this. Now thier looking ourside of DOD. Has pretty cut out the Camaro trips and mods.
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Old 04-25-2011, 02:20 PM   #30
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I may bow out from getting a z28 unless we get some good news very soon. This economy is not picking up and with gas heading to $5/gallon the zl1 is out.

I may get a regular 1ss 2012 Camaro as a fall back. But my preference has always been for a z28 just cannot hold out too much longer.
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Old 04-25-2011, 02:59 PM   #31
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I may bow out from getting a z28 unless we get some good news very soon. This economy is not picking up and with gas heading to $5/gallon the zl1 is out.
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that would be great for the people who have ZL-1s by that time... if gas goes way up, and the ZL-1 is discontinued, then if you own a ZL-1 the price of that will go up in time due to limited availability and may become a classic eventually, similar to the 1969 one (although it will not be nearly the same)

then again, I highly doubt this will happen as GM is spending lots of money into the production of this car and wants to sell as many as possible
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the 4th gen SS was not faster than the z28 nor did it make more power on a dyno.Yes SLP and GM advertised more power but in reality were no quicker or more powerfull at all
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5.5 Engine Z28

I really hope to see a cloth seat, de-contented, much lighter Camaro Z28 weighing in at less than 3500 lbs with the C6R 5.5 liter engine in it with direct injection and variable cam timing. This engine will be in base Vettes for 2012 at 440 HP, if I understood correctly. Cross your fingers.
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I very much doubt 3,500 lbs is gonna happen based on what has been stated by those in the know in other threads.
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I really hope to see a cloth seat, de-contented, much lighter Camaro Z28 weighing in at less than 3500 lbs with the C6R 5.5 liter engine in it with direct injection and variable cam timing. This engine will be in base Vettes for 2012 at 440 HP, if I understood correctly. Cross your fingers.
2012 content was announced already
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I had gone to my local Chevy dealer the other weekend to check out the new convertibles. We got to talking about the ZL1 models, they told me the price will be right round that of the base model vette. Then they told me that GM is keeping it on the down-low, but there will be a Z28.
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Old 06-01-2011, 06:31 PM   #37
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I had gone to my local Chevy dealer the other weekend to check out the new convertibles. We got to talking about the ZL1 models, they told me the price will be right round that of the base model vette. Then they told me that GM is keeping it on the down-low, but there will be a Z28.


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Old 06-01-2011, 11:01 PM   #38
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I sure hope so, I've read articles on the Boss 302, and it sure sounds pretty slick. With its owner adjustable suspension, that nifty "Track Key", performance build, and no frivolous extras, it sounds like my kind of car. What excites me more than that is the fact that GM always lets Ford run out the gate first, then one-ups them with their own model. The thought of a new Z28 Camaro that not only meets but exceeds the Boss by a bit makes me start thinking about trading up sooner than I'd originally planned.
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I sure hope so, I've read articles on the Boss 302, and it sure sounds pretty slick. With its owner adjustable suspension, that nifty "Track Key", performance build, and no frivolous extras, it sounds like my kind of car. What excites me more than that is the fact that GM always lets Ford run out the gate first, then one-ups them with their own model. The thought of a new Z28 Camaro that not only meets but exceeds the Boss by a bit makes me start thinking about trading up sooner than I'd originally planned.
why wait for a z28? the ZL-1 will be a better performer than the boss 302 and potential Z28 ... save yourself time lol
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why wait for a z28? the ZL-1 will be a better performer than the GT 500 as the Z/28 will be against the Boss.


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being better than the gt 500 is implied... thats the whole purpose of the ZL-1 !!!
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being better than the gt 500 is implied... thats the whole purpose of the ZL-1 !!!
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I stopped by dealership to order a 2012 2LT Camaro. I was first on the list for a ZL1 but bowed out after I heard that there would be a Z28. In fact my original deposit was for a z28, then they said no z28 just zl, finally i heard a z28 was coming.

Thus, i am getting a 2012 Camaro now and giving my 2011 Camaro to my niece. Then, I will get a z28 next year.

But to make a short story long, my dealer said they might come out with a z28 in a year or year and a half, that it was all up in the air now and that they may not come out with one at all. I think they will come out in 1-2 years and I will be first in line.



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