BMR or Pfadt Trailing Arms - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

ITGuy11 · 04-19-2011, 11:55 AM

I am ready to purchase a set of trailing arms. Can't decide between BMR or Pfadt.
The BMR trailing arms along with the outer bushing kit costs $190.

The Pfadt arms that include the outer bushings cost $239.

What are the pros/cons or each?

orange-prince · 04-19-2011, 01:19 PM

i don't know for sure but i think the price for BMR & Pfadt trailing arms with the outer bushings is nearly the same i think you post the price for BMR w/o outer bushings
any way i like both BMR & Pfadt but ill go with Pfdat on this one

BMR guy · 04-19-2011, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange-prince

i don't know for sure but i think the price for BMR & Pfadt trailing arms with the outer bushings is nearly the same i think you post the price for BMR w/o outer bushings
any way i like both BMR & Pfadt but ill go with Pfdat on this one

$190 is for trailing arms AND outer bushings...

PfadtRacing · 04-21-2011, 12:41 PM

Our trailing arms are 106 stronger than stock, have 17% less mass, and reduces deflection by 32%.

Lighter, stronger, stiffer and GMPP certified.

IROCanSS · 04-21-2011, 12:50 PM

Coke-vs-Pepsi. I have BMR because they look better being beefy and red as opposed to looking like a cheap cell phone tower. I am sure the Pfadt ones are fine. Their prepped cars seem to do well. I have ZERO complaints about my BMR prepped car and the customer service has been stellar!

Buffnshine · 04-21-2011, 01:01 PM

Again PFADT all the way, plus they look so damn hot under there

So Cal Camaro · 04-21-2011, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrhaus76

Coke-vs-Pepsi. I have BMR because they look better being beefy and red as opposed to looking like a cheap cell phone tower. I am sure the Pfadt ones are fine. Their prepped cars seem to do well. I have ZERO complaints about my BMR prepped car and the customer service has been stellar!

Agree, Love my BMR Trailing Arms.

BMR Sales · 04-21-2011, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrhaus76

Coke-vs-Pepsi. I have BMR because they look better being beefy and red as opposed to looking like a cheap cell phone tower. I am sure the Pfadt ones are fine. Their prepped cars seem to do well. I have ZERO complaints about my BMR prepped car and the customer service has been stellar!

Quote:

Originally Posted by So Cal Camaro

Agree, Love my BMR Trailing Arms.

Thanks for the good words guy!

mbacamaross · 04-21-2011, 04:46 PM

+1 bmr..
cant go wrong..
pick up a set of sway bars and and springs and im positive it will be a big bang for your buck!!
all i need is toe tods and bushings and im all bmr under my ride!

Sunlover · 04-21-2011, 05:28 PM

we're going Pfadt - love the structural look of them, and quality can't be beat.

Matster · 04-21-2011, 05:49 PM

Went with Pfadt Stage 3

mikepage0007 · 04-21-2011, 06:18 PM

went bmr with apex chase

Apex Chase · 04-21-2011, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikepage0007

went bmr with apex chase

Thanks for the mention and your order. The good news is that if you are down to Pfadt or BMR you can't make a bad decision. You will not be disappointed with either one. We choose to offer both Pfadt and BMR because they build great products that do exactly what they say they will and if you have an issue they stand behind them 100%.

fmster · 04-22-2011, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrhaus76

Coke-vs-Pepsi. I have BMR because they look better being beefy and red as opposed to looking like a cheap cell phone tower. I am sure the Pfadt ones are fine. Their prepped cars seem to do well. I have ZERO complaints about my BMR prepped car and the customer service has been stellar!

LOL, pfdat design is not only stronger but lighter... I guess looks can be deceiving. It's called truss designs, very commonly used in bridges.

blazzin1 · 04-22-2011, 09:20 AM

Well, I certainly do not want to badmouth either company. I have purchased both Pfadt and BMR products in the past, and I think they are both top-of-the-line. In fact, my Pfadt Coilovers are my most prized modification so far. I chose to go with the BMR Trailing Arms because I wanted the spherical rod ends and I liked the boxed-in "red" look. But I just happened to run across this thread the other day (see link below). They're talking about a totally different subject, but look at the pictures in post #3. I can't say for sure what I'm seeing because the pics are so fuzzy and out of focus. But to me it sure looks like this guy's Pfadt T/A's are covered in little rust spots! If that's the start of some corrosion, it's only going to get worse with time. Also, doesn't it look like the structure on that one T/A is buckled or bent (towards the outboard side on the bottom)? Is that supposed to be like that? Maybe it's just an optical illusion? Maybe this guy used his car for doing Dukes-of-Hazard style jumps on salted roads??? I'm not sure, but at this point, I'm glad I went with the BMR T/A's!!!

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142523

Nomad · 04-22-2011, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blazzin1

Well, I certainly do not want to badmouth either company. I have purchased both Pfadt and BMR products in the past, and I think they are both top-of-the-line. In fact, my Pfadt Coilovers are my most prized modification so far. I chose to go with the BMR Trailing Arms because I wanted the spherical rod ends and I liked the boxed-in "red" look. But I just happened to run across this thread the other day (see link below). They're talking about a totally different subject, but look at the pictures in post #3. I can't say for sure what I'm seeing because the pics are so fuzzy and out of focus. But to me it sure looks like this guy's Pfadt T/A's are covered in little rust spots! If that's the start of some corrosion, it's only going to get worse with time. Also, doesn't it look like the structure on that one T/A is buckled or bent (towards the outboard side on the bottom)? Is that supposed to be like that? Maybe it's just an optical illusion? Maybe this guy used his car for doing Dukes-of-Hazard style jumps on salted roads??? I'm not sure, but at this point, I'm glad I went with the BMR T/A's!!!

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142523

I was literally picking up the phone to order a set of the Pfadt Trailing Arms that I saw at C5F2. Need to know if this is an issue. Thanks blazzin1.

PfadtRacing · 04-22-2011, 12:00 PM

We are glad to see to see people out there driving their cars in all conditions! There isn't a rusting issue with our arms, the powder coating we specifically chose is extremely corrosion resistant. We do all of our testing in Salt Lake City, where they salt the roads during every winter storm and have never seen any rust issues, ever. That includes our car and a fleet of local cars with our trailing arms installed.

The fuzzy out of focus photo appears to show some discoloration on the arm that are clearly road debris. Unfortunately when dealing with suspension components road debris are unavoidable and will eventually dirty every arm on your car. Bringing the rear trailing arm back to life is just a towel away!

I'm not entirely sure which buckle or bend is being referred too, but the angles we see on these photos are absolutely normal and are of our own design. The arm pictured is perfectly fine, perfectly healthy.

Nomad · 04-22-2011, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PfadtRacing

We are glad to see to see people out there driving their cars in all conditions! There isn't a rusting issue with our arms, the powder coating we specifically chose is extremely corrosion resistant. We do all of our testing in Salt Lake City, where they salt the roads during every winter storm and have never seen any rust issues, ever. That includes our car and a fleet of local cars with our trailing arms installed.

The fuzzy out of focus photo appears to show some discoloration on the arm that are clearly road debris. Unfortunately when dealing with suspension components road debris are unavoidable and will eventually dirty every arm on your car. Bringing the rear trailing arm back to life is just a towel away!

I'm not entirely sure which buckle or bend is being referred too, but the angles we see on these photos are absolutely normal and are of our own design. The arm pictured is perfectly fine, perfectly healthy.

I thought that the Trailing Arms were powdercoated but I didn't want to trust my memory.

Thanks.

2010 SS RS · 04-22-2011, 12:29 PM

is there a link to installation instructions for the toe rods and trailing arms.

PfadtRacing · 04-22-2011, 01:36 PM

Here are instructions:

Trailing arms: http://www.pfadtracing.com/blog/wp-c...on-no-tool.pdf

Toe Rod reinforcement plates: http://www.pfadtracing.com/blog/wp-c...ment-plate.pdf

or

Adjustable Toe Control rods: http://www.pfadtracing.com/blog/wp-c...structions.pdf

BMR Sales · 04-22-2011, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010 SS RS

is there a link to installation instructions for the toe rods and trailing arms.

Here are the instructions for the BMR trailing arms and toe rods.

http://www.bmrsuspension.com/siteart...26_install.pdf

http://www.bmrsuspension.com/siteart...02_install.pdf

http://www.bmrsuspension.com/siteart...03_install.pdf

If you have any questions on them I can definitely answer them for you.

Stealth 2010 2SS/RS · 04-22-2011, 07:21 PM

Pfadt, when are the new toe rods going to be out, and any plans for a toe rod trailing arm package.

Silver Ice · 04-22-2011, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmster

LOL, pfdat design is not only stronger but lighter... I guess looks can be deceiving. It's called truss designs, very commonly used in bridges.

Expand-A-Sign USA · 04-23-2011, 08:13 AM

I've had my Pfadt Coilovers, Trailing Arms, bushings and Control Arm Stiffener since July '10 - outstanding design, quality and unmatched customer service in helping me decide what mods I needed. Along with my Pfadt Sport Sway Bars and Endlinks my Camaro rides curves like it's on rails and is always sure-footed when accelerating out of a curve.

Aaron and Blair are always there for you - I highly recommend them.

mikepage0007 · 04-23-2011, 09:10 AM

oredered my bmr wednesday from apex chase and arrived yesterday..

04-19-2011, 11:55 AM	#1
ITGuy11 Burning up tires Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Macomb Twp, MI Posts: 675	BMR or Pfadt Trailing Arms I am ready to purchase a set of trailing arms. Can't decide between BMR or Pfadt. The BMR trailing arms along with the outer bushing kit costs $190. The Pfadt arms that include the outer bushings cost $239. What are the pros/cons or each? __________________ Blower, cam, supporting mods 644RWHP 615RWTQ My Build Thread COTW 11/19/12 Detroit 5th Gen Camaro Club

04-21-2011, 12:41 PM	#4
PfadtRacing Drives: 2010 Camaro, 2006 Z06 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 2,990	Our trailing arms are 106 stronger than stock, have 17% less mass, and reduces deflection by 32%. Lighter, stronger, stiffer and GMPP certified. __________________

04-21-2011, 01:01 PM	#6
Buffnshine So Cal Camaro5 Race Team Drives: '10 SS/RS, '06 HHR, '70 El Camino Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 2,657 View My Garage	Again PFADT all the way, plus they look so damn hot under there __________________ TEAM L99 - So Cal Camaro5 Race Team #27 9/5/09 Purchased #36962 Black 1SS/RS L99 "E-TCKT" Base Dyno 328hp/341tq @BBK meet Mods to Date: Window Tint 5% & 15%, ACC P13W Lighting, Adaptive DRL Harness, Ghost Armor, Lloyds "SS" Mats, Dash Plaque, Flowmaster Outlaw Exhaust, Drake Front Bowtie Delete, Stealth 3457 Chrome/Mirror Signal Bulbs, Grant Revolutions Steering Wheel, PFADT Sport Springs, Sway Bars, End Links, Trailing Arms, 4 Wheel Alignment, Hurst Auto Shifter and Paddle Shifter, Satin Black Rear Tail Light Bezels

04-21-2011, 04:46 PM	#9
mbacamaross Drives: 07 tahoe LT 04 silverado SS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: 2010 camaro 2ss/rs Posts: 182	+1 bmr.. cant go wrong.. pick up a set of sway bars and and springs and im positive it will be a big bang for your buck!! all i need is toe tods and bushings and im all bmr under my ride! __________________ ______________________________________ blk/blk 2ss/rs/auto/TINTS/FLOWMASTER 817481/KOOKS 1.7/8TH (THANKS LITLE88) / MSD WIRES/ NGK PLUGS / UNDERDRIVE PULLEY/ VARARAM CAI/ BLACK CHROME PVD WHEELS

04-21-2011, 05:49 PM	#11
Matster Drives: 2010 2SS/RS IOM/IOM #3625 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Greater Toronto Area Posts: 1,811 View My Garage	Went with Pfadt Stage 3 __________________ 666 EVIL RWHP BUILT AND TUNED BY SHIFTED PERCEPTIONS INC.(SPi) 416 Forged Stroker, E-Force Supercharger, Blower Cam, Rotofab CAI, Stainless Works 2" LT Headers and 3" Exhaust, LPE ZR1 Twin Disc Clutch, DSS 1400 HP Axles, Pfadt Performance Kit Stage 3.

04-19-2011, 01:19 PM	#2
orange-prince QATAR 2022 Drives: black cts-V coupe a6 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: doha-qatar ( middle east ) Posts: 995	i don't know for sure but i think the price for BMR & Pfadt trailing arms with the outer bushings is nearly the same i think you post the price for BMR w/o outer bushings any way i like both BMR & Pfadt but ill go with Pfdat on this one

04-21-2011, 12:50 PM	#5
IROCanSS Account Suspended Drives: 89 IROC 350 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Back roads, southern Ohio Posts: 12,521 View My Garage	Coke-vs-Pepsi. I have BMR because they look better being beefy and red as opposed to looking like a cheap cell phone tower. I am sure the Pfadt ones are fine. Their prepped cars seem to do well. I have ZERO complaints about my BMR prepped car and the customer service has been stellar!

04-21-2011, 05:28 PM	#10
Sunlover Drives: 2011 Camaro 1LT/RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: FL Posts: 139	we're going Pfadt - love the structural look of them, and quality can't be beat.

04-21-2011, 06:18 PM	#12
mikepage0007 Drives: 2010camaro Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: port st lucie ,florida Posts: 4,109	went bmr with apex chase __________________ iom 2010 camaro ss - kb supercharger-comp cam- razzi ground effects-pedders suspension 1 1/2 drop-gforce 9in-meth- -black out emblems -painted stripes-mike norris catch can- autometer pillar pod w/aem gauges.cor wheels -magnaflow 3in cat back- mikes orange crush-aac halo-aac sidemarkers-mgw shifter-act twin disc clutch-sjm line lock-kooks headers-misc mods-

04-22-2011, 09:20 AM	#15
blazzin1 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: West Fargo, ND Posts: 3,268 View My Garage	Well, I certainly do not want to badmouth either company. I have purchased both Pfadt and BMR products in the past, and I think they are both top-of-the-line. In fact, my Pfadt Coilovers are my most prized modification so far. I chose to go with the BMR Trailing Arms because I wanted the spherical rod ends and I liked the boxed-in "red" look. But I just happened to run across this thread the other day (see link below). They're talking about a totally different subject, but look at the pictures in post #3. I can't say for sure what I'm seeing because the pics are so fuzzy and out of focus. But to me it sure looks like this guy's Pfadt T/A's are covered in little rust spots! If that's the start of some corrosion, it's only going to get worse with time. Also, doesn't it look like the structure on that one T/A is buckled or bent (towards the outboard side on the bottom)? Is that supposed to be like that? Maybe it's just an optical illusion? Maybe this guy used his car for doing Dukes-of-Hazard style jumps on salted roads??? I'm not sure, but at this point, I'm glad I went with the BMR T/A's!!! http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142523

04-22-2011, 12:00 PM	#17
PfadtRacing Drives: 2010 Camaro, 2006 Z06 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 2,990	We are glad to see to see people out there driving their cars in all conditions! There isn't a rusting issue with our arms, the powder coating we specifically chose is extremely corrosion resistant. We do all of our testing in Salt Lake City, where they salt the roads during every winter storm and have never seen any rust issues, ever. That includes our car and a fleet of local cars with our trailing arms installed. The fuzzy out of focus photo appears to show some discoloration on the arm that are clearly road debris. Unfortunately when dealing with suspension components road debris are unavoidable and will eventually dirty every arm on your car. Bringing the rear trailing arm back to life is just a towel away! I'm not entirely sure which buckle or bend is being referred too, but the angles we see on these photos are absolutely normal and are of our own design. The arm pictured is perfectly fine, perfectly healthy. __________________

04-22-2011, 12:29 PM	#19
2010 SS RS Drives: 2010 2SS/RS IBM Black Polished Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,141	is there a link to installation instructions for the toe rods and trailing arms. __________________ 418 Stroker, 621RWHP 648 lbs TORQUE Built by Laramie GM Auto Center Tuned by Nick at Mac Autosport. EForce SC, 2 3/4pulley,LPE dual fuel pump, JRE Twin fuel rail upgrade, posi clutch kit, RX oilcatch can and breather, Callies Compstar crankshaft and rods, Racing bearings, CP -13.8 race pistons, steel rings, Comp Cams X6 blower cam, Springs, HD timing chain and tensioner, Doug Thorley Tri Y LT headers, 89.7lb injectors, RPM rollbar, DSS1400 shafts, Simpson 5 pt harness, BMR Toe rods and trailing arms, led lights, RPM input and output shafts

04-22-2011, 01:36 PM	#20
PfadtRacing Drives: 2010 Camaro, 2006 Z06 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 2,990	Here are instructions: Trailing arms: http://www.pfadtracing.com/blog/wp-c...on-no-tool.pdf Toe Rod reinforcement plates: http://www.pfadtracing.com/blog/wp-c...ment-plate.pdf or Adjustable Toe Control rods: http://www.pfadtracing.com/blog/wp-c...structions.pdf __________________

04-22-2011, 07:21 PM	#22
Stealth 2010 2SS/RS Drives: Black 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Minnesota, Vadnais Heights Posts: 469 View My Garage	Pfadt, when are the new toe rods going to be out, and any plans for a toe rod trailing arm package. __________________ 2010 LS3 2SS/RS M6 AirAid Cold Air Intake, AAC LED sidemarkers, AAC P13w plasmas drl, Kook's Custom 1-7/8" Headers, Corsa Hybrid Exhaust JRE 445 Cam Package, JRE SCT Tune, RX Catch Can and Breather Tech AFX Heater Hose Relocation Kit, Black Chrome Wheels Pfadt trailing and toe arms, Pfadt solid subframe mounts, Pfadt diff bushings, Street Slayer Twin Carbon Technostalgia Camaro LED taillights, CTS-V Front Brakes, Powder Coated Calipers By ME

04-23-2011, 08:13 AM	#24
Expand-A-Sign USA Drives: 2010 Camaro 2LT RS Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: NW NJ Posts: 97	I've had my Pfadt Coilovers, Trailing Arms, bushings and Control Arm Stiffener since July '10 - outstanding design, quality and unmatched customer service in helping me decide what mods I needed. Along with my Pfadt Sport Sway Bars and Endlinks my Camaro rides curves like it's on rails and is always sure-footed when accelerating out of a curve. Aaron and Blair are always there for you - I highly recommend them. Attached Images

04-23-2011, 09:10 AM	#25
mikepage0007 Drives: 2010camaro Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: port st lucie ,florida Posts: 4,109	oredered my bmr wednesday from apex chase and arrived yesterday.. __________________ iom 2010 camaro ss - kb supercharger-comp cam- razzi ground effects-pedders suspension 1 1/2 drop-gforce 9in-meth- -black out emblems -painted stripes-mike norris catch can- autometer pillar pod w/aem gauges.cor wheels -magnaflow 3in cat back- mikes orange crush-aac halo-aac sidemarkers-mgw shifter-act twin disc clutch-sjm line lock-kooks headers-misc mods-

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