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Old 04-20-2011, 11:20 PM   #1
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Does your top have rub marks from being down?

WE FINALLY HAVE A TSB!

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FINALLY! After nearly 2 months, the people have spoken and GM has listened!

Bulletin has been released for the fix of this problem!

Doc ID# 2668096. (or) Tech Bulletin #PIC5472

I just got off the phone w Suburban Chevy who found the bulletin released late last week. Basically, it calls for the moving of the suspect bracket and repair/replacement of the top!

Let's get these cars in! Finally!
UPDATE 6/18/11: GM put a new top on but didn't fix the problem so I took matters into my own hands and fixed it myself. Here is the thread http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153498.


Just like the title says, my top is down 99% of the time and the few times I have put it up I have noticed that there are some rub marks on my top. The really bad ones are about 8" back from the front of the top right above the side windows. There is also a long rub mark on the first rib of the under skeleton. I am guessing the long one is from the boot cover moving around when installed.

So anyone else notice this?
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:22 PM   #2
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My friend had mentioned that the top should be up when parked, as I took these pics and read the "What position is best for the vert top at night?" thread, I decided to just put the top up everytime I put her up for the night. That really sucks, cause it is so easy to just drive in the garage and be done, Oh well.
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Old 04-21-2011, 07:30 AM   #3
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My husband and I noticed that I have 2 small marks on my top each one about 8 to 10 in. back from front windshield just above the driver and passenger door windows too. I am taking mine in because when the top is up and I close the driver's door it sounds like the window is rattling, so I am gonna have them look at the spots too. I'll let ya know what they say.
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:26 AM   #4
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Can the fabric be brushed out with a stiff brush to eliminate the marks?

Looking at the last photo, there sure seems to be a lot of loose, loopy threads in the top, too.
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:45 AM   #5
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Mine looks like it could become a hole.
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:16 PM   #6
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Can the fabric be brushed out with a stiff brush to eliminate the marks?

Looking at the last photo, there sure seems to be a lot of loose, loopy threads in the top, too.
Like rainey85 said it looks like it might eventually wear a hole in those two spots.

That is just dirt. There isn't any loose threads anywhere that I have noticed.
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:34 PM   #7
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We've got 3-year warranty, right? Seems that covered repairs would be in order if any of the above issues became a hole. Perhaps GM can recommend best practices to avoid the wear (and warranty issues!).
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:50 PM   #8
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Folk that's the price we pay for having the first of anything. It is the first verts for the new Camaro on the market. You do have an excellent warranty to cover these things.....I hope!!!!! I think it's going to be difficult to prevent all of the rubbing with a soft top though...good luck!
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Old 04-21-2011, 03:06 PM   #9
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Ironic... I too just saw the thead about keeping the top up in storage so I took it to.work today and put it up. Sure.enough, I have the EXACT same marks which I never noticed before today. Definitely looks.like.it.could become a hole. Hopefully sooner than later- let GM repair it, not.me!
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:34 PM   #10
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I have some wrinkle marks on the sides.
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:07 PM   #11
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I noticed these marks shortly after I got the car, and started leaving the top up whenever I'm not driving it. I like to keep the fabric stretched and aired out anyway. My last convertible had a similar issue. Its not really rubbing on anything, just pressing against one of the braces when its compressed in the well. I'll still be keeping an eye on the top for other issues as well.
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:48 PM   #12
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Does anyone think that putting a piece of foam between the folds (at the pressure points) when putting the top down would help?
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:06 PM   #13
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The other day, someone mentioned laying a towel over the top before putting the tonneau cover on. Probably wouldn't help with the side marks, but might help with the rib marks the OP talked about. I haven't noticed the rib marks on mine, but then I don't often put my tonneau cover on.
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Old 04-22-2011, 11:07 AM   #14
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I've got the marks too. The right side actually looks like it will make a hole over time. The driver side just looks like it is pressing against a brace.
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Old 04-22-2011, 11:29 AM   #15
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The other day, someone mentioned laying a towel over the top before putting the tonneau cover on. Probably wouldn't help with the side marks, but might help with the rib marks the OP talked about. I haven't noticed the rib marks on mine, but then I don't often put my tonneau cover on.
Not a bad idea. I might start doing that, It might actually help hold the boot cover on also.
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I've got the marks too. The right side actually looks like it will make a hole over time. The driver side just looks like it is pressing against a brace.
Yeah, my right side seems much worse that my left side.
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Old 04-22-2011, 11:38 AM   #16
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Welcome to the world of the vert. I've own two and both tops didn't hold up well. I was hoping to hear that the camaro was different ,but it sounds like they're just like the rest.
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Old 04-22-2011, 11:43 AM   #17
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Welcome to the world of the vert. I've own two and both tops didn't hold up well. I was hoping to here that the camaro was different ,but it sounds like their just like the rest.
My 95 Z28 top was perfect.
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Old 04-22-2011, 01:58 PM   #18
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Perhaps a thread on the care and feeding of a convertible top is in order. Any experts out there want to share their wisdom?

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Old 04-22-2011, 04:22 PM   #19
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+1 on the passenger side significantly worse than the driver side...
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Old 04-23-2011, 08:37 AM   #20
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I have one small spot on passenger side, but it looks like it will wear thru. Driver side has 2 circles about 4 inches behind first bow... anyone know if this is just an adjustment thing?
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Old 04-24-2011, 02:51 AM   #21
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Can the fabric be brushed out with a stiff brush to eliminate the marks?

Looking at the last photo, there sure seems to be a lot of loose, loopy threads in the top, too.
Lmao at your avatar! I was about to kill the bug! Hahaha you got me.
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Old 04-24-2011, 03:43 AM   #22
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You can always dye it black again......

DIY: Convertible Top Dye

If you own a convertible and spend a lot of time with the top in the up position, where it is subject to bright sunlight, rain and other elements, it's probably looking a bit faded. Installing a new top is always an option, but if your existing top is not torn and is structurally sound, then buying a new one might just be a waste of money. Dyeing a top is an option that many convertible car owners have taken advantage of.


  1. Reasons for Dyeing a Top
    • There are a couple of reasons that one might want to consider dyeing a convertible top. The most common reason is that the material that the top is made of has faded or become dirty from years of being exposed to the elements. A faded convertible top can detract greatly from your car's appearance. Dyeing the top instantly transforms it.
      The other reason for dyeing a top is to alter the appearance of your vehicle. Suppose you own a vintage sports car with a nice tan top, but you don't like the color and think it would look better in black or even a darker brown. You can dye the top a different color and, in the process, drastically alter the appearance of your vehicle. Just keep in mind that you cannot dye a darker color to a lighter color, but it is relatively easy to dye a lighter colored top to a darker color.

    Types of Dye
    • There are several companies that offer dye for convertible tops. One of the criteria for deciding which type of dye to use is what material your top is made of. Most tops are made of either vinyl or cloth, with vinyl being more common and inexpensive. Both of these types of tops can be dyed with the proper approach and materials. If you have a vinyl top, then try Black-Top dye from Forever Black (see Resources section) For fabric tops, use a fabric dye like the kind that Rit makes (see Resources section).

    How to Dye a Top
    • The first step in dyeing your convertible top is to clean it thoroughly. Use a mild soap and water. Soak the top with water and then scrub the top with a soft bristle brush that has been dipped in the soap and water, cleaning the entire surface of the top as thoroughly as possible. Once the top is cleaned, let it dry overnight or in sunlight.
      Apply the top dye with a paint brush, starting in the middle and brushing it on evenly and in one direction onto the entire surface of the top. You may need to apply three or four coats to get complete and thorough coverage. When you dye your top, make sure that you mask off any of the areas near the car to avoid getting dye on them, and wear old clothes that you don't mind getting dye on. Be sure that you leave the top in the up position for a few days after you dye it to ensure that the dye cures and fully soaks into the top.


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Old 04-24-2011, 03:46 AM   #23
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The other day, someone mentioned laying a towel over the top before putting the tonneau cover on. Probably wouldn't help with the side marks, but might help with the rib marks the OP talked about. I haven't noticed the rib marks on mine, but then I don't often put my tonneau cover on.
I'm considering putting black felt on the underside of my tonneau cover....
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Old 04-24-2011, 05:59 PM   #24
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On my 95 C4 vette I use a large beach towel between folds. It keeps the wear down.
As you guys will find out cloth tops really suck for wear and being clean. The worst is lent and those fuzzy things from trees. Go and buy a lent roller for coats these work great! I wish Chev would have done them in vinyl.

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Geez I was considering a Vert this summer but after reading this thread I may just forget about it. Yikes
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