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Old 02-24-2009, 11:47 PM   #1
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so much for a T-56 swap!

lately i've been researching how to swap my 5 speed for a T-56. i've been anxiously awaiting the day my transmission craps out so i can switch it out. wow, is it way more involved and expensive than i imagined! from the initial things i'd read about it, it didn't seem that complicated, but after i delved farther into it, i realized it would take so much more modification than the normal conversions, considering my particular setup. the usual trucks people convert are 2WD V8s that had the 4l60e. my truck's a 4WD V6 5-spd. the biggest difference for me is the fact that i would have to have a custom-made tail shaft to connect the transfer case (quite expensive) and i would have 2 differentials to change instead of 1. i'd hope the 4.3 bolts right up like the 5.3, but if it's like the 4.8 or the LQ4, it has to have a spacer on the flywheel. as for cosmetics, i'd have to get new carpet from an automatic truck so i don't have a huge hole from the old shifter (the T-56 shifter comes through about 12" farther back), and i'd have to take out the middle seat (again because of the shifter). many other factors go into it all, and it's starting to seem like more trouble than it's worth.

looking back, i don't really know if there's a specific point to this thread, but if anybody has any advise to offer, it'd be welcomed.
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Old 02-25-2009, 12:20 AM   #2
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Sorry wish I could help the last swap I made in a truck was a friend made a AWD S10 using 5.7L SB, AWD transfer case out of a Astro van and 4WD S10. No nothing about the swap your trying
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Old 02-25-2009, 04:17 PM   #3
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keep the 5 speed or get a new truck...
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keep the 5 speed or get a new truck...
why? i sure ain't gonna find a GM 6-spd pickup outside of a HD towing transmission. when i finally get the money to do my engine swap, it'll be a much better tranny to have than this Getrag
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Old 02-25-2009, 11:32 PM   #5
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why? i sure ain't gonna find a GM 6-spd pickup outside of a HD towing transmission. when i finally get the money to do my engine swap, it'll be a much better tranny to have than this Getrag
wait your swapping the whole engine as well?
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If you're planning on swapping the engine down the road also, you'd be better off doing the engine and trans at the same time.
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wait your swapping the whole engine as well?
not right now, but it's a future consideration. i'm thinking probably a 5.3 with a few mods. nothin too extreme (although a turbo could come in handy sometimes!)
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If you're planning on swapping the engine down the road also, you'd be better off doing the engine and trans at the same time.
probably, but i don't know when the engine swap might come about, and i'd like the added benefits of the better transmission regardless of if i have the V8 or not.
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Trade it on a new Camaro SS!
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why didnt you ask me?

shoot me a pm with everything you are wanting to do with the truck, engine, trans, whatever
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Trade it on a new Camaro SS!
i'll still need a truck. my friends, family, & i use the bed too much to not have it. i'm actually gonna be moving some furniture again in the next few days.

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why didnt you ask me?
i was actually waiting to see if you found this thread!

i know most of what's involved. it's more of a question of whether or not it's worth it to go through it all.

here's a rough list of what i'll need (off the top of my head):
  • T56 off an Fbody
  • short throw kit and a new shift arm
  • LS6 or LS7 clutch (preferably)
  • flywheel off an Fbody
  • stronger clutch hoses
  • custom tail shaft to connect to transfer case
  • shorter drive shaft
  • new front & rear differentials
  • carpet from an automatic (to cover the old shifter hole)
  • computer retune
  • possibly a flywheel spacer (depending on how it mates to the 4.3)

lots of stuff & labor. i'd also probably lose my middle seat (which i use somewhat often) due to the new shifter. if so, there's a few guys who make shifters that will work with a Tahoe console to fill the empty space. that's even more work & money.

AAHHH!!! decisions!!!
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are you planning on sticking with the 4.3? or upgrading to a 5.3?


parts you will need that I can think of off the top of my head.

* T56 transmission, bellhousing, slave cylinder extension piece, clutch fork, fork t-stud, inspection cover, shifter, flywheel, pressure plate w/throwout bearing, clutch disk, clutch alignment tool.
* master cylinder with U-bolt, slave cylinder, reservoir
* new roller pilot bearing
* T56 tranny crossmember, tranny mount (can use A4 tranny mount - recommend polyurethane)
* exhaust mount, torque arm bracket, torque arm bushing (can use A4 TA bushing)
* pedal assembly with all the switches and clip for clutch pedal
* shifter console insert (replaces automatic shifter insert)
* lower shift boot
* bolts - bellhousing to tranny, flywheel, pressure plate to flywheel, slave cylinder nuts, master cylinder U-bolt nuts, inspection cover screws, lower shift boot screws.
* 4 quarts of Dexron III
* brake fluid if necessary
* flywheel spacer depending on the trans

Deciding on a clutch and pressure plate combo really depends on your power levels. Clutches available are - GM stock, Centerforce, STAR, McLeod, SLP, and others. The most popular clutches right now are the Street Twin and STAR clutch Stage II and III. From what I have heard, Centerforce is junk, the Street Twin is difficult to setup, the STAR clutch can be grabby/chatter, and the SLP clutch can only handle so much power - so you can't always win. Do not forget, the flywheel most be resurfaced and balanced the same as your flexplate (or neutral balanced if you have an internally balanced/built motor).




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