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Old 02-10-2011, 10:57 AM   #1
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Now that the ZL1 is out, what do you want the Z28 to be?

I think most of you folks know Chevrolet is still considering the Z28. Since we know what the ZL1 is, what would you want the Z28 to be?

Obviously we don't want to see the same car with a different badge so what say you?

My wish list for a 5th gen Z is:

1. No RS - make standard headlights the DRLs. This will allow you to....
2. Remove fog lights. Use that space for real front brake duct work and/or air intake.
3. Functional rear brake cooling ducts.
4. A/C delete (this will drop 100 pounds out of the car). Make it optional.
5. No auto.
6. Drivetrain (tranny back), suspension, brakes and exhaust from the ZL1.
7. Lightest production wheels possible.
8. Track pack option which deletes back seat, all sound insulation, the 50 pounds of caulking, rubber floor mat instead of carpet and light weight racing seats.
9. ZR1 engine is okay but consider the upcoming 5.5.

Bottom line is that I would like to see an all business car.

Moderators can move this thread once a Z28 section is re-created (you are going to need it).
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more affordable/cheaper(like starting 'vertible price)..
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Simple a light weight car that can hold it's own on the race track (road course). As far as options the light weight statement should limit how much B.S. is put into the car. I would expect that a true Z28 will require a platform change.
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Well I don't think they should remove any water sealing caulking. You don't want you race car forming more rust than it has to if you do endurance racing.

If the z/28 is going to be all about agility, they may actually want a smaller engine to lower the weight. There are countless examples of cars with smaller engines keeping up with the big boys in almost every way except top speed.

They should also offer lightweight racing seats.

Are the HIDs that much heavier than the standard bulbs? They look so cool, maybe they should still be an option, like the A/C.
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twin turbo v6. that is all.
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twin turbo v6. that is all.
Cool!
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Simple a light weight car that can hold it's own on the race track (road course). As far as options the light weight statement should limit how much B.S. is put into the car. I would expect that a true Z28 will require a platform change.
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Old 02-10-2011, 11:12 AM   #8
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The Z28 should be an SS Camaro with the GM GFX and a few trim features. Other than that just keep it under $40k
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Old 02-10-2011, 11:21 AM   #10
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I think heritage has it that the Z28 was an up-level model or upgrade from the SS, but in my hayday (4th gen cars), that wasn't true. The SS car was one step up, and it came from SLP with special trim and badging.

So I'm not really sure what it would be or where it would slot in...
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Old 02-10-2011, 11:22 AM   #11
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Just curious on where this hang up is for lightweighting the car. The only thing Lightweight about the original Z28 was that it had a smaller displacement engine that was lighter than the highest HP big blocks, but that was required by the rules for racing. Otherwise it was mostly parts bin stuff.

So I'm just wondering why everyone seems so hung up on having the car be lighter than the car is? That starts to sound like Mustang envy to me.

I'm not sure there was ever a Z28 that had "special" light weight materials or lack of materials over the stock car.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
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First, I really hope there is going to be a Z28 and have the automatic without the afm, also have performance options from the factory like exhaust, gears, Chrome wheels, a/c delete, and definitely a much lighter Camaro.
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Old 02-10-2011, 11:28 AM   #14
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There isn't going to be a Z28.
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Old 02-10-2011, 11:28 AM   #15
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1) 302 CU (or 350 for 70-up)
2) manual trans
3) GEARS! 3.73 standard, optional 4.10
4) twin stripes hood/trunk wrapping over the rear spoiler
5) badges, front grill, trunk panel, side fenders
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7) nice compromise of 19 inch liteweight rims and tires that can be rotated front to rear.
8) MSRP about 33-35k

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There isn't going to be a Z28.
GM pretty much said there will be on the chat last night.
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Just curious on where this hang up is for lightweighting the car. The only thing Lightweight about the original Z28 was that it had a smaller displacement engine that was lighter than the highest HP big blocks, but that was required by the rules for racing. Otherwise it was mostly parts bin stuff.

So I'm just wondering why everyone seems so hung up on having the car be lighter than the car is? That starts to sound like Mustang envy to me.

I'm not sure there was ever a Z28 that had "special" light weight materials or lack of materials over the stock car.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
It's actually Corvette envy......

The early Z/28's did not have lighter parts in them but they were generally lighter due to stock orders being built with very few options. It's extremely rare to find a 67-69 Z/28 "loaded up". Heater and radio delete were also available options which found their way into a few Z cars.

The early cars were not available with automatics and A/C due in part to the nature of the solid lifter engine but this also saved on weight.
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GM pretty much said there will be on the chat last night.
I heard, but I'll believe it when I see it, at least for the 5th gen. It's been on again off again for at least two years now, and now they have the ZR1. That will make, what, 6 different trim levels? I don't see them adding a 7th, since things like that are a big part of what put them into bankruptcy in the first place.
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I think most of you folks know Chevrolet is still considering the Z28. Since we know what the ZL1 is, what would you want the Z28 to be?

Obviously we don't want to see the same car with a different badge so what say you?

My wish list for a 5th gen Z is:

1. No RS - make standard headlights the DRLs. This will allow you to....
2. Remove fog lights. Use that space for real front brake duct work and/or air intake.
3. Functional rear brake cooling ducts.
4. A/C delete (this will drop 100 pounds out of the car). Make it optional.
5. No auto.
6. Drivetrain (tranny back), suspension, brakes and exhaust from the ZL1.
7. Lightest production wheels possible.
8. Track pack option which deletes back seat, all sound insulation, the 50 pounds of caulking, rubber floor mat instead of carpet and light weight racing seats.
9. ZR1 engine is okay but consider the upcoming 5.5.

Bottom line is that I would like to see an all business car.

Moderators can move this thread once a Z28 section is re-created (you are going to need it).

Prettey much have a drag strip car than only. I remember people asking for this on the fourth gen and it got shot down by GM.

By a vette if you want all this.
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I heard, but I'll believe it when I see it, at least for the 5th gen. It's been on again off again for at least two years now, and now they have the ZR1. That will make, what, 6 different trim levels? I don't see them adding a 7th, since things like that are a big part of what put them into bankruptcy in the first place.
I disagree. History will treat this camaro team well. They really went to the enthusiasts and history on this one (5th gen) like never before and are delivering products which satisfy our expectations. Z will be part of that.
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something that can come damn close to go toe to toe with the Z06 out of the box, and keep it NA!
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Prettey much have a drag strip car than only. I remember people asking for this on the fourth gen and it got shot down by GM.

By a vette if you want all this.
But I don't have any grey hair......
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I think most of you folks know Chevrolet is still considering the Z28. Since we know what the ZL1 is, what would you want the Z28 to be?

Obviously we don't want to see the same car with a different badge so what say you?
Think cheap Z06...

An LS7-engined torque monster, full carbon fiber hood, carbon fiber trunk lid, no automatic, no sunroof, no back seats, no sound proofing, no leather, no HIDs, no OnStar... all else would be ZL-1 spec, but with simpler suspension built for the track only, and maybe even lighter wheels, 4 colors only (black, white, red, yellow).

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if they did one it would have to be an inexpensive to produce option. My thoughts would lead them toward an ss with a more wild cam and or tune. Suspension tweaks and brake upgrades. I would also see it as a manual only car with a short throw standard. Different wheels an minor tweaks like a graphics package. I wouldn't expect anything to drastic. I would think it would follow closly with Fords BOSS 302.
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I would like to see the Z28 as a performance package available on several trim levels.
1. Delete of several items, like AC and much of the sound insulation.
2. Wheels lighter than any available now.
3. Racing seats
4. Choice of several rear end ratios.
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