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Old 02-25-2009, 08:55 PM   #1
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GMS in St. Louis

looking to order a Camaro in the St. Louis area @gms could use some help
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Old 02-25-2009, 10:05 PM   #2
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I would think that should not be hard since no one can sell cars right now. I haven't asked any dealers yet because I'm waiting for some things to pan out first. I will definitely subscribe to this thread though.
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Old 02-25-2009, 10:09 PM   #3
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All I could find was a few dealers that wanted over MSRP and 2 that would sell at MSRP but one dealer wanted a $3500 deposit and the other only required a $500 deposit so I placed my order with them. If you check further you might find GMS but I like my salesman at ELCO and felt comfortable dealing with him at MSRP. If GM is running any incentives at time of delivery he said I would get them. I hope this helps and good luck.
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Old 02-25-2009, 11:10 PM   #4
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Elco Chevy and Weber Chevy (Creve Coeur) were taking orders at MSRP with just $500 down. I am not sure if either of them still has any allocations left.
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Old 02-26-2009, 08:31 PM   #5
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I was first at Lou Fusz and dealer called me today gave me the option to order an SS or wait on the V6. I had to decline, I'm stuck on a fully equipped LT2 with everything available. Good place to go as well. Sales rep said only 5 total orders there.
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Old 02-26-2009, 08:42 PM   #6
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I was first at Lou Fusz and dealer called me today gave me the option to order an SS or wait on the V6. I had to decline, I'm stuck on a fully equipped LT2 with everything available. Good place to go as well. Sales rep said only 5 total orders there.
will they do gms? and what kind of deposit did you put down($, and refundable or not)
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Old 02-26-2009, 08:50 PM   #7
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I didn't check because it's been the best experience not to tell them until you're closing your deal. I am using GMS myself. Even if they won't my employer is so huge that Fusz gives discounts and i seriously doubt they want a bad rep reported to my job. I've bought a couple cars from them. It's been a good experience to date. The next person that ordered an SS after me owes me lunch because it was hard as hell to decline Fusz & GM's offer to bump up to the Super Sport
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Old 02-26-2009, 09:07 PM   #8
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I didn't check because it's been the best experience not to tell them until you're closing your deal. I am using GMS myself. Even if they won't my employer is so huge that Fusz gives discounts and i seriously doubt they want a bad rep reported to my job. I've bought a couple cars from them. It's been a good experience to date. The next person that ordered an SS after me owes me lunch because it was hard as hell to decline Fusz & GM's offer to bump up to the Super Sport

thanks ill give them a call tomorrow
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Old 02-27-2009, 05:21 AM   #9
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Elco Chevy and Weber Chevy (Creve Coeur) were taking orders at MSRP with just $500 down. I am not sure if either of them still has any allocations left.
I have my order in at Elcho (ask for Pat Stroker). At this point, they say no to discounts, but I still plan to push it at closing. I'll still be happy if I don't get it, but it would be a an added bonus. They are very nice there, and I know they won't try to screw me at the last minute with the pricing.
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Old 02-27-2009, 07:02 AM   #10
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See Mark G at ELCO. I have bought 7 cars from this car guy.
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Old 02-27-2009, 11:45 AM   #11
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If you guys are looking for lower than MSRP...closer to invoice pricing....you need to look outside St. Louis to some of the smaller town dealerships. There are several down 44 and out 70 that have allocation and are willing to deal.

Don't settle for MSRP and definitely don't pay higher than MSRP....you're just getting your "lips ripped off" as my Father in law would say. (and he's a GM dealer)
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Old 02-27-2009, 02:25 PM   #13
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See Mark G at ELCO. I have bought 7 cars from this car guy.
That's who I am buying from. Very knowledgeable and nice guy to deal with. He came highly recommended from a friend who has bought many cars from him.
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If you guys are looking for lower than MSRP...closer to invoice pricing....you need to look outside St. Louis to some of the smaller town dealerships. There are several down 44 and out 70 that have allocation and are willing to deal.

Don't settle for MSRP and definitely don't pay higher than MSRP....you're just getting your "lips ripped off" as my Father in law would say. (and he's a GM dealer)
im on the IL side
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Old 02-28-2009, 07:07 AM   #15
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Is Mark at Elcho giving you supplier discount on the car? If so, I'll move over from my Elcho dealer to yours. I would hate to do that to such a nice guy, but in the end, I have to take care of myself and my money.

What is your priority in line. I'm #3. Were one of the other elcho guys here 1 or 2 that got into the march build? I should be first in line for the april build.
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Old 02-28-2009, 07:42 AM   #16
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I feel like this there IS Gms pricing and we have the pricing guide on here that reflects that. Don't put yourself out of an addition $2900 or more being impatient and paying MSRP or more. I love this car, been waiting 3 years, but through 10 cars, 5 of which were bought brand new, i have NEVER paid msrp. You may as well pay full price for everything. If dealer doesnt want to give me GMS i swear i am NOT buying that car. No exceptions.
Think back to a your first flat screen purchase. If retailer1 is selling it for $1200 but retailer2 is selling it for $900 you SHOULD drive the 40-50 extra miles out of your way. Do not be irresponsible my fellow Cam Fam. I love the car as much as you but if the dealer DOESN'T want to honor what you're entitled to, get it somewhere else. You'll regret it later from your payments being some 17-25 higher over the life of the loan from your own impatience. That could've been a rim upgrade, ground effects kit, racing stripes, etc.
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Old 02-28-2009, 08:37 AM   #17
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I feel like this there IS Gms pricing and we have the pricing guide on here that reflects that. Don't put yourself out of an addition $2900 or more being impatient and paying MSRP or more. I love this car, been waiting 3 years, but through 10 cars, 5 of which were bought brand new, i have NEVER paid msrp. You may as well pay full price for everything. If dealer doesnt want to give me GMS i swear i am NOT buying that car. No exceptions.
Think back to a your first flat screen purchase. If retailer1 is selling it for $1200 but retailer2 is selling it for $900 you SHOULD drive the 40-50 extra miles out of your way. Do not be irresponsible my fellow Cam Fam. I love the car as much as you but if the dealer DOESN'T want to honor what you're entitled to, get it somewhere else. You'll regret it later from your payments being some 17-25 higher over the life of the loan from your own impatience. That could've been a rim upgrade, ground effects kit, racing stripes, etc.
Something tells me that the other ten cars you bought were nowhere near this popularity when they first came out. I'm sure 99% of people in the U.S. have not paid MSRP for their cars, but when it comes to cars like this, it kind of breaks that rule. At least for the first year or so.

Am I getting it now because I'm impatient and want to be the first one on my block to have it, your darn right. Sometimes you just have to live a little. Besides, like you, I'm doing something else I've never done with any other car I've bought. I'm putting down almost $17,000 on it. The most I've ever done was $1,000 (or none at all). So, like I said above, this car kind of breaks the rules on how people think about buying a car. With that much down, I'll already be saving $1,500 - $2,500 on interest alone. Sounds like a savings to me.

Of course, your also talking to the same person who bought THE very first protable DVD player on the market. I think it was about $1,200 and came with half the options they have these days. What are they now a days? About $150 or less. BUt let me tell you, the thrill of being the first to own it was great

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Is Mark at Elcho giving you supplier discount on the car? If so, I'll move over from my Elcho dealer to yours. I would hate to do that to such a nice guy, but in the end, I have to take care of myself and my money.

What is your priority in line. I'm #3. Were one of the other elcho guys here 1 or 2 that got into the march build? I should be first in line for the april build.
I haven't been able to secure supplier pricing from Mark, he said that they would probably not honor supplier pricing. My paper work says MSRP plus any GM incentives at time of delivery. I'm guessing that supplier pricing is not considered a GM incentive. He said that the supplier price comes out of the dealers pocket and is not reimburshed by GM. Mark told me that he had the 1st 2 orders that were picked up and Pat( your salesman) had spots 3 and 4. Mark has priority spots 5 which is me and 6 which is some guy from Maryland. So it sounds like your next and then someone else and then me. I assume that whatever deal you get I will get. I'm betting we will propably pay MSRP in the end. I don't know Pat but I think switching salesman will probably not get you anywhere as far a price is concerned. We will have to hook up after we get our cars and go for a long drive.

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Guess who is from Maryland.
COOL I didn't catch that. Mark seems to be a great guy. I have confidence he will take good care of me. I had to go to Kansas City to get my 2007 Saturn Sky because all the dealers in St. Louis were charging over MSRP, so I know what it's like to travel to get a new car. You certainly are traveling much further that I had to. I have a good friend I used to work with that has bought several cars from Mark and he assured me that I went to the right guy, After meeting and talking to Mark several times I am convinced I did the right thing. So now we wait and then let the good times roll. The next time I talk to Mark I'll tell him that I found out who " the guy from Maryland is". I'm tring not to call him unless it's necessary because I know he is busy and I know he will call me if anything comes up.
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COOL I didn't catch that. Mark seems to be a great guy. I have confidence he will take good care of me. I had to go to Kansas City to get my 2007 Saturn Sky because all the dealers in St. Louis were charging over MSRP, so I know what it's like to travel to get a new car. You certainly are traveling much further that I had to. I have a good friend I used to work with that has bought several cars from Mark and he assured me that I went to the right guy, After meeting and talking to Mark several times I am convinced I did the right thing. So now we wait and then let the good times roll. The next time I talk to Mark I'll tell him that I found out who " the guy from Maryland is". I'm tring not to call him unless it's necessary because I know he is busy and I know he will call me if anything comes up.
I've had the same experiance with Pat at Elcho. My friend refered me to him because his family has bought over fifteen vehicles from him over the years. I still plan to push the discount at signing though. It's worth a shot.
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