From Supercharger to Twin Turbo now Remote Turbo FTW!

[Pt_killa]

After a long year of trying out different forms of forced induction, I've finally settled on a remote turbo. Building a remote turbo kit for our car was by far the easiest method of the 3 and requires the fewest amount of tools (I'll post a complete list of everything needed soon). The car spools up great, runs fast, and the gas mileage on my auto is now 35mpg on the highway with 70 set on cruise control after an hour long drive. I'm still waiting on final tune from Vince at Trifecta to make it run leaner up top (currently buries the wideband on the rich side at full throttle) but it runs good. Here's some pics below and I'll put up some videos soon



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[Pt_killa]

Heres a pic of the engine bay:

[GbrilliantQ]

Are you using zip ties to hold your tubing underneath your car?

[Pt_killa]

Self tapping screws through metal bands at some points are holding the intercooler piping to the frame but some points do use nylon and metal zipties were I couldn't get a good tap but wanted extra support. Also the return oil lines are ziptied to the intercooler piping at moment. I bought cushion clamps with holes for self tapping screws to use with the oil lines but haven't had time to do it. I only had a day to put this together so I did what I can

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Nice. Is it scavenging better than the last setup?


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[jagan323]

Wow... looks like a nasty beast =D. So do you have the turbo mounted near the front? Then, i see piping going to the end of the exhausts... Some extreme closeups make me dizzy @__@ VERY cool none-the-less =D

[Pt_killa]

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

Nice. Is it scavenging better than the last setup?

I used a restricted flange and the turbocharger itself has a restrictor inside the center housing (I dont know why all turbos don't have one) so no pressure issues there. Also, I'm using the same turbowerx base pump from my twin setup but I left the return unvented and it now works great.

So do you have the turbo mounted near the front?

I have it mounted at the back of the car similar to the sts kit. I use a similar turbo to the sts but has a larger compressor housing and smaller turbine

[SteveRS]

lol does this mean yer twin setup will be cheap sell???

[Pt_killa]

Lol, I used a lot of the pipes from the twin setup but I still have the custom up-pipes and two magnaflow mettalic core cats with 02 bungs welded on them (total cost $800 but i'll sell for $200). I have a few more parts left over. PM if your interested. I'll try to attach the parts list I used for both the twin kit and remote kit but I don't know how to attach excel documents.

[Pt_killa]

I have now attached the parts list. Its still an excel file but compressed it first so camaro5 would accept it.

[CamaroFreako]

I would like to see results

[Pt_killa]

Theres a drag strip a couple of miles from where I live and tons of dynos in the area so results will be posted as soon as I get the final tune.

[SIXJAK]

Originally Posted by Pt_killa

Theres a drag strip a couple of miles from where I live and tons of dynos in the area so results will be posted as soon as I get the final tune.

[Dino]

Dude, I am so waiting for how this goes! Dyno and track times would be great!

Quick question, though, why did you go with the turbo (Master Power T60) that you did? Just wondering.

[Edge.128]

what is the difference with a remote turbo?? and how much ground clearance do you have now that piping looks LOW to the ground....

[SC2150]

I'm impressed! You have the talent needed for sure. Good job.

[Pt_killa]

Dude, I am so waiting for how this goes! Dyno and track times would be great!

Quick question, though, why did you go with the turbo (Master Power T60) that you did? Just wondering.

I will be heading to the track tomorrow so I will have plenty of 1/4 mile track times. I just got my datalog tune so hopefully in can get some result that are representative of the final product. It took a while to research and see what other v6's were using for their remote mounts. I choose a t60 because I wanted something with a compressor thats a little bit bigger than what sts uses to make more power. To make up for the lag I bought a smaller turbine wheel than the base sts turbine. There are no compressor maps for the t60 but I believe its the same as a fullsize 60-1 which produces a little bit more than the t04b 62-1 compressor map thats out there. I was going to buy a master power t61 but the trim I wanted was sold out everywhere.

I'm impressed! You have the talent needed for sure. Good job.

Thanks SC, without your help I wouldn't have this build or my previous twin build. Your hints and tips made a world of a difference! I can't wait to see more of your RX twin kits out there!

[Pt_killa]

Originally Posted by Edge.128

what is the difference with a remote turbo?? and how much ground clearance do you have now that piping looks LOW to the ground....

With remote turbos on our car the turbo basically replaces the muffler and the wastegate replaces the drivers side muffler. The only way it can work like this is because our exhaust has an H pipe at the front. With traditional front mounts, the headers are joined and then goes into the turbo. The h-pipe basically "joins the headers" for the remote kit. The intercooler piping is low but it only scrapes if your moving really fast (faster than highway speeds) and hit a dip in the road. Speedbumps and potholes are not an issue. Also my car is lower than stock since I have tires that have a 2inch smaller diameter than stock and I still don't scrape. The only issue is that the piping goes in front of the rear tire and under the suspension, so when im on a steep hill and the road sharply flattens out the pipe will scrape first.

[Edge.128]

Originally Posted by Pt_killa

With remote turbos on our car the turbo basically replaces the muffler and the wastegate replaces the drivers side muffler. The only way it can work like this is because our exhaust has an H pipe at the front. With traditional front mounts, the headers are joined and then goes into the turbo. The h-pipe basically "joins the headers" for the remote kit. The intercooler piping is low but it only scrapes if your moving really fast (faster than highway speeds) and hit a dip in the road. Speedbumps and potholes are not an issue. Also my car is lower than stock since I have tires that have a 2inch smaller diameter than stock and I still don't scrape. The only issue is that the piping goes in front of the rear tire and under the suspension, so when im on a steep hill and the road sharply flattens out the pipe will scrape first.

cool thanks. i couldn't run that up here wayyyyy to many potholes and dips and such....

[Pt_killa]

I went to the track yesterday and got some 1/4 mile times i did not expect. I ran a 14.7 at 102mph. I had 100% traction but a lot of turbo lag in first and second gears (my car is auto). By the time I could get into full boost I was already halfway down the track and then the car started to shine(as you can tell from the high trap speed but high time and only 70mph at the 1/8 mark and 102mph trap speed). There is no lag on the highway or on the street but on the drag strip it is very appearent. The reason for the lag could be many reasons such as my turbo size or boost leak(could be bov) or even tune. Also if i could've left the line at a higher rpm maybe I couldve reached full boost sooner. I'm going to dyno this week so I can see how my power curve looks. As an estimate Vince from Trifecta viewed my datalogs of my basetune and showed that I made at least 40lbs of air per minute which translates to at least 400 at the crank. Hopefully my datalogged tune makes more.

Even though the quarter mile times were high, on the highway its a different beast! I've had my car turboed for a while now and taken down a 2011 ss, rt, and gt and a couple of bikes and imports. Pulling power on the streets and good gas mileage, couldn't be happier! Im not a big drag racer but I was just interested in how the car performed off the line. Only if I had a 2 step!

[CamaroFreako]

Originally Posted by Pt_killa

I went to the track yesterday and got some 1/4 mile times i did not expect. I ran a 14.7 at 102mph. I had 100% traction but a lot of turbo lag in first and second gears (my car is auto). By the time I could get into full boost I was already halfway down the track and then the car started to shine(as you can tell from the high trap speed but high time and only 70mph at the 1/8 mark and 102mph trap speed). There is no lag on the highway or on the street but on the drag strip it is very appearent. The reason for the lag could be many reasons such as my turbo size or boost leak(could be bov) or even tune. Also if i could've left the line at a higher rpm maybe I couldve reached full boost sooner. I'm going to dyno this week so I can see how my power curve looks. As an estimate Vince from Trifecta viewed my datalogs of my basetune and showed that I made at least 40lbs of air per minute which translates to at least 400 at the crank. Hopefully my datalogged tune makes more.

Even though the quarter mile times were high, on the highway its a different beast! I've had my car turboed for a while now and taken down a 2011 ss, rt, and gt and a couple of bikes and imports. Pulling power on the streets and good gas mileage, couldn't be happier! Im not a big drag racer but I was just interested in how the car performed off the line. Only if I had a 2 step!

:(

[xpanda305x]

i will hate to be you when u hit the tubing on the bottom with something....

[Pt_killa]

just got back fom a 300 mile road trip and didn't hit anything. I daily drive my car and have already put 2k miles on the kit and pipes never scrape. Only on a hill or ramp with a steep apex like I stated earlier did i scrape slightly but the pipes were unscathed. I run it the same way sts does and I'm comfortable with it so to each's own I guess.

[CamaroFreako]

Originally Posted by Pt_killa

just got back fom a 300 mile road trip and didn't hit anything. I daily drive my car and have already put 2k miles on the kit and pipes never scrape. Only on a hill or ramp with a steep apex like I stated earlier did i scrape slightly but the pipes were unscathed. I run it the same way sts does and I'm comfortable with it so to each's own I guess.

it does look like the pipes are almost near the ground on the 3rd picture

[Pt_killa]

Originally Posted by CamaroFreako

:(

Sorry to dissappoint you mate and your mighty eagle. At least now I know how the car reacts and I can adjust the parts and driving accordingly. That was my first run with a turbo car (first run with basetune I had another driver) and 2nd run at a drag track in my life so hopefully I can learn more driving techniques the next time I run.