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Old 02-26-2009, 09:01 PM   #176
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If they do not reduce the price because of the door-only situation regarding the ABL, do you think they would alter the price of the Interior Orange package, seeing that the orange ABL is the prominant feature of this optional package? How do the people who ordered the accent package feel about the door-only ABL announcement?
The seats in the IO package also have an Orange insert (two tone).

EDIT: this is an IVER. The door panels would also be orange (instead of the black shown here)
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What a bunch of cry babies. If ABL is that big of a deal go get a rice burner.
If I were chevy I would just cancel the entire production plans. The new Camaro must be a piece of crap without that ABL thingy. GET REAL GUYS
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Old 02-26-2009, 09:15 PM   #178
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Crap?

Yeah, but that's Mrs. Ronald.

Aftermarket vendors are going to be all over this. Disco lighting, following lighting, chase mode, remote controlled brightness, dances to the music, patterns and colors.

Another vote for the 1SS versus 2SS.

So, why does GM need the aftermarket vendors to do it right when, as your pic shows, the technology is already available?????



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We should all happy to get this car anyway we can. With the outlook for GM getting worse everyday, there may be no Camaro next year or any GM vehicle. Look around GM Inside News, its alot worse them most people would like to believe.
Sorry, but that's absurd.



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If my dash get's jacked because of heat, I'll be pissed. And for that reason, I'm thinking that this is not the reason they pulled ABL. If it was heat, why would the doors be any different? Aren't they the same material? Until we get a reason otherwise, it's +1 for the bean counters.
There may be some heat at the source, but a significant amount will not propagate out through the light tube. Plastic tubing is not a good heat sink. That's also absurd.



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CTS has lighting on the dash. Light pipe across the I/P and through the doors.
Exactly, so why, when time started running short for the problematic new lighting technology, didn't they begin working on a backup contingency plan using the CTS's already tried and true technology?
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I hope that at the Cleveland Auto Show, [insert Camaro5 member here] yells "show us the ABL or die!!!"

...and then [insert GM rep here] says "uh... wtf is ABL?"

...then everyone proceeds to point and laugh at [insert Camaro5 member here] for using a stupid, made-up acronym that makes no sense and means nothing to GM (or anyone else in the world outside of Camaro5).

That is all
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What a bunch of cry babies. If ABL is that big of a deal go get a rice burner.
If I were chevy I would just cancel the entire production plans. The new Camaro must be a piece of crap without that ABL thingy. GET REAL GUYS
I'm glad you support the failure of GM. It's these kinds of idiotic beliefs that have put GM in the situation that they're in.
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Exactly, so why, when time started running short for the problematic new lighting technology, didn't they begin working on a backup contingency plan using the CTS's already tried and true technology?
Why would they want to "copy" something that is already being done? Then everyone would complain because they just copied the CTS. Maybe GM wants the Camaro to be its own beast, and stand out. Not have people say "oh, cool, that's just like the CTS"... I think they'd prefer "wow, that's so much cooler than the Caddy version"

So maybe we should just wait and see? I mean, damn, it's only 2 days away...
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Old 02-26-2009, 09:20 PM   #183
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Ahhh don't say i didn't warn you guys about this. Mustang has Ambient lighting on the doors as well but from what i understand they can change the color. Not a big deal to me, last thing i want is to get distracted from that beautiful light on the dash while my son is riding with me. Not a big deal to me. I'm still getting mine. There's always aftermarket.
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Now, I know I'm gonna rub some of ya'lls rhubarb the wrong way with what I'm about to say, but I personally think the ambient lighting thing is too gimicky to begin with. It might look cool today but 5 years from now people might be making fun of it. Just like the digital graphic vaccum illuminescent electronic speedometers GM made in the late 1980's when they tried to give every car they made the KITT interior treatment.

Ergo, this is one of the reasons I've been set on the SS1 trim level to begin with.
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I'm glad you support the failure of GM. It's these kinds of idiotic beliefs that have put GM in the situation that they're in.


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I am going to laugh so hard if the interior looks just like concept, but only doors light up. Oh man, that's going to irk me and I'll always feel like I'll have to explain it to everyone who sits in my car..."notice the doors light up, but the light stops when it reaches dash?...no not really....oh well GM f'd up, it was supposed to go all around.....oh, i wouldn't have noticed until you told me.....yeah I know that's my OCD kicking in"
This is exactly why it is either there or it isn't. My OCD would never let me just sit in the car at night (in the day it doesn't matter) and be reminded of why the ambient light does not go all the way around the dash.. 1SS is the way to go with the boston acoustics and thats it..

This is pretty cool..Where is it from?
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I'm glad you support the failure of GM. It's these kinds of idiotic beliefs that have put GM in the situation that they're in.
Uh, I'm thinking nationwide car sales being down over 40% has nothing to do with it? Not trying to be a smart ass but name a car company who isn't "in the situation their in". Not good for any of them.
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Now, I know I'm gonna rub some of ya'lls rhubarb the wrong way with what I'm about to say, but I personally think the ambient lighting thing is too gimicky to begin with. It might look cool today but 5 years from now people might be making fun of it. Just like the digital graphic vaccum illuminescent electronic speedometers GM made in the late 1980's when they tried to give every car they made the KITT interior treatment.

Ergo, this is one of the reasons I've been set on the SS1 trim level to begin with.


If I could have gotten leather and Bluetooth with the 1SS it would have been my choice.
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Uh, I'm thinking nationwide car sales being down over 40% has nothing to do with it? Not trying to be a smart ass but name a car company who isn't "in the situation their in". Not good for any of them.
Yea, but they're not all as bad off as GM. And GM wouldn't be in this position if their market share hadn't dropped steadily over the last few decades. Of course the massive drop in overall car sales would've had a huge affect on them no matter what but they wouldn't be nearly as vulnerable as they are now if they were selling more cars as compared to their competitors.

Thankfully they're working on changing it and it's things like ABL that help to modernize the image of a car and of a company. Just because some hillbilly is stuck in the past doesn't mean that the rest of us need to be and can't expect GM to lead the industry in design.
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So, why does GM need the aftermarket vendors to do it right when, as your pic shows, the technology is already available?????
They're spreading the wealth around. Same reason they put whisper-quiet exhaust on an LS3, Borla needs the work!




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This is exactly why it is either there or it isn't. My OCD would never let me just sit in the car at night (in the day it doesn't matter) and be reminded of why the ambient light does not go all the way around the dash.. 1SS is the way to go with the boston acoustics and thats it..

This is pretty cool..Where is it from?
It's from http://www.labestlimo.com, you can rent that LIMO tonight!

And I am thinking 1SS too, with Boston Acoustics option, add 4 pack gauges, and some full-width ABL later.
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I have been reading all along on these "ABL"'s and have resisted posting much. Seems some like to just slam others.
BUT HERE GOES:

Yes I ordered the Interior Accent Trim Package (W1H)
(Available on 2LT and 2SS)

These are the Items why i ordered the W1H option.

Black interior with Inferno Orange accents on:
Leather-appointed front seating surfaces
Rear seating surfaces
Steering wheel
Shift knob
Door armrest
Center console
Instrument panel and door trim inserts

Notice that the last item says inserts !!!NOTHING about ambient lighting anywhere.
Am I dissapointed that it will not go across the dash also.
In one way yes it would continue the flow of light all the way around. (even though the above says nothing about it doing that.
On the other hand I would not have been using them during my night driving anyway due to I felt that it would possibly bother my vision out of the windshield.
BUT PLEASE TELL ME that the acrylic color matching pieces across the dash will at least still be there because if it is not the panels in the door only may look out of place (Lighting or not).
If I was planning on spending $500 for all of the above without any text stating anything about lighting I do not see why I would delete it now nor would I think I should get any big dicsount back or off because of a single stripe of light across the dash that I would only have on at a few select times at night.
Just My Opinion and yes I am entitled to have one just like everyone else is. Does not have to be right or wrong in you view. It is my opinion. Yes I have one of those other things just like everyone else also. AN ?????ole

Thanks for taking the time to read my thoughts.

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That's to bad. More reason to wait and see how this car plays out over the next year. Hopefully they will incorporate additional upgrades like the lighting across the dash and HUD and so on. Also over time there will probably be additional options both on the exterior and interior. Then there is still the possibilty of a Z28 if the goverment stays out of the car business
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Yea, but they're not all as bad off as GM. And GM wouldn't be in this position if their market share hadn't dropped steadily over the last few decades. Of course the massive drop in overall car sales would've had a huge affect on them no matter what but they wouldn't be nearly as vulnerable as they are now if they were selling more cars as compared to their competitors.

Thankfully they're working on changing it and it's things like ABL that help to modernize the image of a car and of a company. Just because some hillbilly is stuck in the past doesn't mean that the rest of us need to be and can't expect GM to lead the industry in design.
Fair enough. But this car is two steps above some of the competition even without abl. I will say this. They can't afford to drop anything else.
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Im sure the orange panels would still run acros the doors and dash, dont worry about that, just worry about getting some type of ABL to work for the dash after.
Whoever said that using the technology from the CTS would be stupid because it would be copying is just completely wrong. The car has an LS3, not its own camaro engine, it has a 3.6 DI v6 that is shared with the CTS, if they tried to use new tech on every car, they wouyld be bankrupt.
Go get a rice burner because the option that Chevy boosted and promised isnt there, and customers are upset, because of that, i should buy a rice burner. These comments just make me laugh, if GM promised you the LS#, then gave you a turbo 4 banger, would you still love your camaro, would you not whine about it? A promised option, is a promised option, dont expect people to not get upset, especially when they have payed for it. I understand that it may not seem like a big deal to many, but to some it is, to each their own. I wish it wouldve been the way they presented it, i still dont think the heat cycle test is valid enough, but atleast they tried. As much as we complain, i doubt that this option will be available the way we want it for production, but i will be pissed if it is for the 2011 model.
I just hope that for some reason, they get it fixed and then add it to the production cars later to connect it with the door panels, is there any way we can voice this to GM?
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Im sure the orange panels would still run acros the doors and dash, dont worry about that, just worry about getting some type of ABL to work for the dash after.
Whoever said that using the technology from the CTS would be stupid because it would be copying is just completely wrong. The car has an LS3, not its own camaro engine, it has a 3.6 DI v6 that is shared with the CTS, if they tried to use new tech on every car, they wouyld be bankrupt.
Go get a rice burner because the option that Chevy boosted and promised isnt there, and customers are upset, because of that, i should buy a rice burner. These comments just make me laugh, if GM promised you the LS#, then gave you a turbo 4 banger, would you still love your camaro, would you not whine about it? A promised option, is a promised option, dont expect people to not get upset, especially when they have payed for it. I understand that it may not seem like a big deal to many, but to some it is, to each their own. I wish it wouldve been the way they presented it, i still dont think the heat cycle test is valid enough, but atleast they tried. As much as we complain, i doubt that this option will be available the way we want it for production, but i will be pissed if it is for the 2011 model.
I just hope that for some reason, they get it fixed and then add it to the production cars later to connect it with the door panels, is there any way we can voice this to GM?
If it's part of an ABL thread on this website, believe me, we already have...
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Im sure the orange panels would still run acros the doors and dash, dont worry about that, just worry about getting some type of ABL to work for the dash after.
Whoever said that using the technology from the CTS would be stupid because it would be copying is just completely wrong. The car has an LS3, not its own camaro engine, it has a 3.6 DI v6 that is shared with the CTS, if they tried to use new tech on every car, they wouyld be bankrupt.
Go get a rice burner because the option that Chevy boosted and promised isnt there, and customers are upset, because of that, i should buy a rice burner. These comments just make me laugh, if GM promised you the LS#, then gave you a turbo 4 banger, would you still love your camaro, would you not whine about it? A promised option, is a promised option, dont expect people to not get upset, especially when they have payed for it. I understand that it may not seem like a big deal to many, but to some it is, to each their own. I wish it wouldve been the way they presented it, i still dont think the heat cycle test is valid enough, but atleast they tried. As much as we complain, i doubt that this option will be available the way we want it for production, but i will be pissed if it is for the 2011 model.
I just hope that for some reason, they get it fixed and then add it to the production cars later to connect it with the door panels, is there any way we can voice this to GM?
So are you taking your OWN advice and getting a "rice burner"???

1) it was never an "option"
2) no one "payed for it "... it was not on Work Bench !
3) please don't send another "plea " to Scott.
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There is a video of a Silver SS where the IOM interior ABL flickers on and off when the key is turned. I don't know where that video is but it didn't look bad..Kinda looked like this.
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Where the heck did this picture come from?

Yes, that looks like it's on!

Now, I gotta say, this is the best "interior lighting shot" I've seen yet! I love how the gauges have the blue backlight. Man, I wasn't a fan of the interior...but now I'm in love! The lighting is amazing and really sets it apart!
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