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Old 02-26-2009, 07:46 PM   #1
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I heard that they're getting rid of Pontiac. Does this mean I can still buy one in the future?
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Old 02-26-2009, 08:02 PM   #2
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There is no official word that they are getting rid of Pontiac. things are tough, but have faith and patience.
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Not sure Pontiac is dead, but I'm sure it will look a lot different if it makes it. The last I heard was going to be a niche brand, but who knows what that will look like.

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Old 02-26-2009, 08:30 PM   #4
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Yes, you can still buy one, and regardless of what happens to Pontiac in the future, your warranty and service will remain intact.
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Old 02-26-2009, 08:32 PM   #5
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I heard that they're getting rid of Pontiac. Does this mean I can still buy one in the future?
I am not going to confirm or deny this rumor, but I just wonder why you asked the question this way. If they do get rid of it, how exactly would you buy one in the future? Certainly, if it remains as a niche brand you should be able to buy one, but there may be less models to buy.
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Old 02-27-2009, 09:44 AM   #6
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Not getting rid of it. They're shrinking it down to 2-3 cars, and selling them through the Buick/GMC dealer network as a niche brand. So far is seems like G8 and Solstice have made the cut...not sure if there's a third........
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Not getting rid of it. They're shrinking it down to 2-3 cars, and selling them through the Buick/GMC dealer network as a niche brand. So far is seems like G8 and Solstice have made the cut...not sure if there's a third........
I thought for sure the solstice was a no go.



Isnt GM loosing money every time they sell one?
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Old 02-27-2009, 11:44 AM   #8
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Apparently not. I remember that rumor...it seems to have been false, or if not then extremely overexaggerated. The Kappa twins may not be the most cost-effective cars GM builds...but they're not losing money on every one they sell.
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Old 02-27-2009, 03:03 PM   #9
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Not getting rid of it. They're shrinking it down to 2-3 cars, and selling them through the Buick/GMC dealer network as a niche brand. So far is seems like G8 and Solstice have made the cut...not sure if there's a third........
Solstice is only lasting as long as the life of the current Kappa platform...and that won't be for much longer.

And yes, GM does lose money for every Kappa sold. It's a very good platform, just expensive as hell.
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Solstice is only lasting as long as the life of the current Kappa platform...and that won't be for much longer.

And yes, GM does lose money for every Kappa sold. It's a very good platform, just expensive as hell.
Actually, they can fit on the Alpha platform with some modification, making them survivable.
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I've also heard they might just be sold as a model here or there at Chevy dealers, leaving Buick and GMC to themselves. It makes sense to use that "niche" brand thing to bring hot vehicles from other parts of the world here with less risk and at lower volumes. The beautiful thing is since Pontiac no longer needs to support a full brand we won't have to see embarrassments like the G3, G5, Torrent, and Aztek again.

Unless the G8 sales numbers pick up with the rest of the market, I wouldn't expect a replacement after this product life cycle. However, since they want to market the Cruze as a practical, fuel efficient small car and therefore we might not get an SS version, perhaps they could bring the hot versions of the Astra here, especially if Ford brings its Focus RS. Cool possibilities.
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Not getting rid of it. They're shrinking it down to 2-3 cars, and selling them through the Buick/GMC dealer network as a niche brand. So far is seems like G8 and Solstice have made the cut...not sure if there's a third........
Beleive it or not I heard the G5 is a keeper, at according to my buddy who works at a Pontiac dealership.
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I want to repeat our mantra: "your dealer is an idiot"... but that idea is just stupid enough to be likely to happen.
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Actually, they can fit on the Alpha platform with some modification, making them survivable.
Unfortunately, Alpha's been put on hold...who knows what will happen.
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Beleive it or not I heard the G5 is a keeper, at according to my buddy who works at a Pontiac dealership.
I've heard the same thing, but it could all stem from the same rumor source
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The G5 is...for all intents and purposes...the Cobalt. I wonder if they brought over the SS version to Pontiac, too....

And Stovt001...don't be so sure about the Cruze and a sport edition not coming together at some point.
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The G5 is...for all intents and purposes...the Cobalt. I wonder if they brought over the SS version to Pontiac, too....
Not that I can see, it would have been the G5 GXP. There is 1 engine, the 2.2L ecotec. That's it, they've even droped the 2.4L engine from the GT. If anything, they should offer the new DI 2.4L and the 2.0 turbo. Let the cobalt have the economy model and Pontiac be sporty(ish)
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Not getting rid of it. They're shrinking it down to 2-3 cars, and selling them through the Buick/GMC dealer network as a niche brand. So far is seems like G8 and Solstice have made the cut...not sure if there's a third........
I'm soo happy the G8 made the cut!
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The G5 is...for all intents and purposes...the Cobalt. I wonder if they brought over the SS version to Pontiac, too....
Look up the Pontiac G5 Pursuit. It didn't last long, but it was there.
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I think Pontiac is dead... it's just a matter of when.

My cynical view is that the "niche brand" thing is only going to last until they can get more Pontiac dealers dualed up as Buick/GMC so they don't have to pay the dealers off to axe the brand. And until they can develop a Chevy fascia/trim for the G8, because that car's too good to let go. Given the likelihood that the Solstice loses money... I can't see how it would be kept around long. The rest are pretty much rebadged Chevy's, which GM has said it's trying to stop doing.

The Pontiac brand just doesn't work. The '04 - '06 GTO, and current G8, were/are pretty darn good cars. But neither sell anything close to what GM hoped. Enthusiast buyers just don't shop at Pontiac dealers anymore, at least not nearly enough of them. And GM just doesn't have the time and money to keep trying to revive the brand, IMO.

I think Pontiac as a brand has been in a slow death spiral since about 1973.

My favorite "old" cars are mostly Pontiacs, so I'm sad to see where this seems to be going....
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I think Pontiac is dead... it's just a matter of when.

My cynical view is that the "niche brand" thing is only going to last until they can get more Pontiac dealers dualed up as Buick/GMC so they don't have to pay the dealers off to axe the brand. And until they can develop a Chevy fascia/trim for the G8, because that car's too good to let go. Given the likelihood that the Solstice loses money... I can't see how it would be kept around long. The rest are pretty much rebadged Chevy's, which GM has said it's trying to stop doing.

The Pontiac brand just doesn't work. The '04 - '06 GTO, and current G8, were/are pretty darn good cars. But neither sell anything close to what GM hoped. Enthusiast buyers just don't shop at Pontiac dealers anymore, at least not nearly enough of them. And GM just doesn't have the time and money to keep trying to revive the brand, IMO.

I think Pontiac as a brand has been in a slow death spiral since about 1973.

My favorite "old" cars are mostly Pontiacs, so I'm sad to see where this seems to be going....
They do have a Chevy nose for the G8, its the Chevy Lumina in the middle east.
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