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Old 05-23-2011, 11:12 AM   #76
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The key is not so much as miles on the oil it is the kind of miles you have on the oil.....
were the miles Highway?
were the miles City?
were the miles driving 90 mph?
were the miles driving 70 mph?
were the miles drag racing light to light?

you have to use common sense with this. also it is normal for cars to use oil, just because you have no leaks doesnt mean the car will remain at full leevel for 5000 miles. you might be suprized to know that your camaro is most likely going to use 1 quart of oil per 5000 miles depending on how you drive it. higher RPM's = more consumption of oil.

if you do your own oil changes you should get a good feel for what kind of mileage intervals you should be using. it is trial and error with each vehicle IMO. it all depends on how your driving that thing.

I used to race motocross and we changed the oil for each track day.... because the bike was held wide open for 20 minute sessions a few times. now if i were just leisurely riding the same bike it would be a waste to change that oil every time i took the bike out.
The OLMtakes into account the factors listed above.


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PQ,

I can't imagine how the algorithms could account for being supercharged. I'd stick with the old school way....
It takes into account the temps, etc which will be affected by the S/C. If you have a boost guage in your S/C'ed car, you will be surprised to know that it is a rare thing to actually be running in boost. 99% of your driving will still be pulling vacuum. So the S/C doesn't really effect the way the engine operates most of the time. When you are under boost, the oil temps will go up which does effect your OLM.
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Old 06-24-2011, 09:49 AM   #77
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IMO, if a vehicle is stock, follow the OLM but at 5k miles, start pulling the dipstick on the weekends to look at it/smell it. Common sense.
Now, modded or maybe even tuned...I'd start checking it at 3k mi. If methanol injected or running race gas, 3k or every 6 mo or between track runs. Depends on what's getting in oil.
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:01 AM   #78
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sounds good,, but people these days dont even check their tire pressure,, they wait for the tire light to come on ,, then they drive to the dealer with a flat tire to see why the light came on,, lol,, happens all the time!
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:05 AM   #79
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I've posted often that there is a ton of science behind the OLM on GM vehicles. There is still a lot of skepticism based on the "old school" and personal history.

I still go to get the oil changed in Mrs. Number 3's Malibu. She has 100 mile highway commute and the OLM will easily go to 10,000 miles. I always get the, "ohhhhhhhh, you shouldn't wait so long to get the oil changed, it's verrrrrry dirty". So someone less technical or without the belief in the science might be scared back into the 3,000 mile change.

GM never really got the credit for this, but their point was to be greener by changing your oil as needed, not at 3,000 miles "just because".

Also to add to this, isn't it required for 2011 + Models now to utlize the new Dexos 1 oil format put out by GM?

Not using the DEXOS 1 on your 2011 + GM vehicle might lead to voiding the warranty??
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:20 AM   #80
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So how do you tell the GM oil monitoring system that you just changed your oil, and to reset the count clock per-se?
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:27 AM   #81
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So how do you tell the GM oil monitoring system that you just changed your oil, and to reset the count clock per-se?

Read the owners manual.
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:28 AM   #82
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So how do you tell the GM oil monitoring system that you just changed your oil, and to reset the count clock per-se?
It's described in your manual.
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:31 AM   #83
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So how do you tell the GM oil monitoring system that you just changed your oil, and to reset the count clock per-se?
Locate the Oil Life Monitor "screen" on your DIC, and hold the reset button on the end of the DIC control lever in until it resets to 100%

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on earlier models like my 2000 Silverado, put the key to the run position and press the accellerator pedel to the floor 3 times in rapid sucession.
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:35 AM   #84
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OnStar is "on my butt" about the Camaro OLM reading like in the 80s yet it's been a bit over a year since an oil change.

Hence the little warning sign on my OnStar report. They suspect I'm not resetting my OLM, but fugg 'em. Car only has 6800 miles on it. So when I change my oil, THEN I'll reset it.
I think someone mentioned earlier that the manual states to replace the oil when the OLM is at 0% OR it's been one year. Like gas, oil might age or deteriorate over time, so it still might be in your best interest to replace the oil because it has been over a year.
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:53 AM   #85
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Also to add to this, isn't it required for 2011 + Models now to utlize the new Dexos 1 oil format put out by GM?

Not using the DEXOS 1 on your 2011 + GM vehicle might lead to voiding the warranty??
but what you are using a full syn oil, is'nt this much better than the dexos. I thought i read somewhere that dexos is now required for all year gm vehicles.
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Old 06-24-2011, 11:00 AM   #86
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Didn't the earlier model LLT engines that were used in the Acadia and Cadillac have a timing belt instead of the chain? I think this is the reason they got the recall and we didn't. Ours is a chain so it should be more reliable.
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Old 06-24-2011, 11:08 AM   #87
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Locate the Oil Life Monitor "screen" on your DIC, and hold the reset button on the end of the DIC control lever in until it resets to 100%

or

on earlier models like my 2000 Silverado, put the key to the run position and press the accellerator pedel to the floor 3 times in rapid sucession.
That works on the Camaro, too.
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Old 06-24-2011, 11:15 AM   #88
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That works on the Camaro, too.
Yup, just like it says on Pg 10-14 of that pesky 2011 Owner's Manual, but for most, using your DIC is easier than reading
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Old 06-24-2011, 11:28 AM   #89
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Just change your oil regularly, and as an additional measure add an oil additive to get you through the rough patches when you want to let it go for a few extra thousand kilometres. Simple, done. VMax is a good brand for the engine and fuel.
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Old 06-24-2011, 11:28 AM   #90
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Didn't the earlier model LLT engines that were used in the Acadia and Cadillac have a timing belt instead of the chain? I think this is the reason they got the recall and we didn't. Ours is a chain so it should be more reliable.
They are all chains in the LY7's/LLT's. The chains have been revised numerous times. Time will tell if the latest version is improved. The first half dozen versions of those chains weren't the most robust things out there.
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Old 06-24-2011, 11:33 AM   #91
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The thing is, unless you lose oil pressure or break your timing chain/belt, no engine is going to die before 100,000 miles. Trannies on the other hand have been getting worse over the years. So GM backing up their olm with the extended warranty is just bs. The only reason the cars have been given an extended warranty is because GM and Chrysler were getting slaughter by Hyundai and Japanese brands.

BTW I have a 2001 Lumina and Cavalier that I have been giving 3,000 mile oil changes and the cavalier is at 310,000 and the lumina is at 250,000. Maybe when others can start claiming the same while following the OLM religiously, I will change my ways.
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Old 06-24-2011, 12:42 PM   #92
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ok ok I'll read my manual....when I get my ZL1
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Old 06-24-2011, 12:59 PM   #93
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That's seriously an awesome read. Thank you for the information. Very cool. I had always wondered about that on my friend's Malibu.
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Old 06-24-2011, 01:10 PM   #94
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Great post, thanks Frank!
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Old 06-24-2011, 03:44 PM   #95
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So, what I guess I still don't understand is, it will even calculate when you need a oil change even if you use synthetic oil. I wonder if you switched from synthetic to conventional oil would the system still be accurate and visa verse? I might start paying attention to this system now in my Camaro, I never have before.
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So, what I guess I still don't understand is, it will even calculate when you need a oil change even if you use synthetic oil. I wonder if you switched from synthetic to conventional oil would the system still be accurate and visa verse? I might start paying attention to this system now in my Camaro, I never have before.
No, I believe it is calibrated for synthetic
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Old 06-24-2011, 04:32 PM   #97
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there are a multitude of problems and situations that the OLM will NOT test for... one of them is a failing oil filter... another is a leaking gasket or journal going bad... nothing in the algorithm will test for these problems, and that is why I change my oil between 3,000 and 5,000 miles... its just a safety precaution to make sure that I take the best possible care of the vehicles that I drive... does it cost more? sure... is it worth it? ABSOLUTELY.

everyone and their little brother can use the OLM to change their oil and save the planet... but I will change my oil when I see fit to do so, and my cars will run better because of it.

and our cars that only travel 200-500miles per year all get annual oil changes, whether they need it or not is irrelevant
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Old 06-24-2011, 05:11 PM   #98
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Very good info.thanks for the read,however,i am old-school like some on here,i have always changed my oil around 3000 miles,i have let my camaro go about 4000 one time which im sure did no harm,only because of it useing synthetic,after reading this article i may now wait til 5-6000 mile intervals,i on avg. drive about 5 miles a day which is not the best for a engine due to it not getting hot enough or at normal operating temp.,i live about 2 miles from work,next month on the 2nd. i will have had my maro for 2 yrs. and currently have 14,600 miles on it....now i did do my first oil change after about 1,500 miles just to get the break-in oil out,but from what i have heard it is not really needed to do that with car's in today's time,
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there are a multitude of problems and situations that the OLM will NOT test for... one of them is a failing oil filter... another is a leaking gasket or journal going bad... nothing in the algorithm will test for these problems, and that is why I change my oil between 3,000 and 5,000 miles... its just a safety precaution to make sure that I take the best possible care of the vehicles that I drive... does it cost more? sure... is it worth it? ABSOLUTELY.

everyone and their little brother can use the OLM to change their oil and save the planet... but I will change my oil when I see fit to do so, and my cars will run better because of it.

and our cars that only travel 200-500miles per year all get annual oil changes, whether they need it or not is irrelevant
Any of the scenarios you are referring to could happen if you changed your oil every 500 miles. There is ZERO proof that your car will run better because you change your oil every 3000-5000 miles.
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helpful post but I ride the old girl pretty hard. so I'll just stick with checking the condition and deciding. I use royal purple and change out once a season, about 3500.
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