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Old 02-28-2009, 04:47 PM   #1
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Is Shelby GT Cheating

Is Shelby GT500 cheating.
An interesting article on the sound of the GT. Does GM use something like this.
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Old 02-28-2009, 04:49 PM   #2
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Sorry forgot the link. Here it is.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/01/au...ef=automobiles
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Old 02-28-2009, 05:13 PM   #3
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In other words, the GT500 sounds weak. This is pretty funny.
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lol... figures.
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Dont laugh too hard GM has done something similar with the GTO. There's a resonator box in the exhaust that makes the car seem louder in side the cabin.
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thats borderline rice.... lol
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In other words, the GT500 sounds weak. This is pretty funny.
Yep, sounds weak but still whips the shit out of the camaro. Now THAT is funny.
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Yep, sounds weak but still whips the shit out of the camaro. Now THAT is funny.
its a shame that it takes a blower for a mustang to be able to beat a camaro tho.
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Just as its a shame that it takes 4 extra cylinders for a SS to beat a Camry? Yeah, good argument.....
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Just as its a shame that it takes 4 extra cylinders for a SS to beat a Camry? Yeah, good argument.....
How do you know that?
is there a V4 Camaro to prove your point?
Because there are plenty of blown and non-blown mustangs to prove his point.
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That's standard on all 2010 Mustangs. They quieted down the car enough on the inside that the engineers felt the owner would miss the sound of the engine. Has nothing to do with the car sounding "weak". I'm sure it sounds the same outside the car since it's a carryover drivetrain. If you've seen the videos of the new Camaro it sounds "weak" also, that's the price of refinement. Fbodfather explains this in another thread.
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Just as its a shame that it takes 4 extra cylinders for a SS to beat a Camry? Yeah, good argument.....
it doesnt take an extra 4 cyls to beat a camry. hell the L99 A6 SS camaro could beat a camry with AFM turned on. asshat

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That's standard on all 2010 Mustangs. They quieted down the car enough on the inside that the engineers felt the owner would miss the sound of the engine. Has nothing to do with the car sounding "weak". I'm sure it sounds the same outside the car since it's a carryover drivetrain. If you've seen the videos of the new Camaro it sounds "weak" also, that's the price of refinement. Fbodfather explains this in another thread.
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Yep, sounds weak but still whips the shit out of the camaro. Now THAT is funny.

ahhh so funny.. takes a moded mustang to beat a 'stock' camaro.. lol


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its a shame that it takes a blower for a mustang to be able to beat a camaro tho.
It's a shame it takes a much bigger Corvette engine for a Camaro to beat a Mustang.....a Mustang GT that is,i don't know what you guys will do with the Shelby.Cry?...........................
The only way to settle this is to go back to the Trans Am days,where the Mustang and Camaro could duke it out with the same size engines powering the same size and weight cars,then we'll just whine about who has the better driver.
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How is it modded if it comes from the factory that way? Im entertained to say the least. So every force inducted motor from the factory is cheating? Seems more a case of using technology to me. Please someone tell John Force or Big Daddy Don Garlits hes cheating because hes got a blower on his car. Weak guys, weak.

Thanks gtahvit, it seems when some dont have a leg to stand on they resort to name calling.
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How is it modded if it comes from the factory that way? Im entertained to say the least. So every force inducted motor from the factory is cheating? Seems more a case of using technology to me. Please someone tell John Force or Big Daddy Don Garlits hes cheating because hes got a blower on his car. Weak guys, weak.

Thanks gtahvit, it seems when some dont have a leg to stand on they resort to name calling.
Its stock but has mods added to it (even if its from factory)... just means that much less it can have done to boost itself. As where the Camaro doesn't.. and has more headroom to play with.

The OP of this thread.. is talking about sound and not so much as he is performance.. this thread is starting to get off topic.
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No man what it means is that it is already setup for force induction. The camaro isnt. The gt500 is setup for up too 1000 crank hp. The camaro isnt. The gt500 has more room to play with. And how can you have something stock but modded(scratches head)? Its either or.
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No man what it means is that it is already setup for force induction. The camaro isnt. The gt500 is setup for up too 1000 crank hp. The camaro isnt. The gt500 has more room to play with. And how can you have something stock but modded(scratches head)? Its either or.
You are off topic.


With refining motors, its common to have them become quieter... along with all the new governmental laws.
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It's a shame it takes a much bigger Corvette engine for a Camaro to beat a Mustang.....a Mustang GT that is,i don't know what you guys will do with the Shelby.Cry?...........................
The only way to settle this is to go back to the Trans Am days,where the Mustang and Camaro could duke it out with the same size engines powering the same size and weight cars,then we'll just whine about who has the better driver.
no replacement for displacement.




and we've already seen what happens when you put a blower on an LS3.

the one thing I will give the 4.6 is that it benefits from FI very well. not that LS motors dont. but it would seem that ford had planned on FI the 4.6 from the beginning.

either way, I cant wait to get these cars on the road and have some fun bringing back the pony car wars.
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Guys, read the article. Its about sound, not performance

I've heard of this before, I think they developed it for Jaguar. I don't know what the problem is though, if the car sounds loud and throaty enough for you, what does it matter what it sounds like outside the car? Besides, automakers can't really get away with superloud exhausts for production vehicles anyway.
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Toyota Camry 0-60
~6.5 seconds (3.5L V6)
~8.5 seconds (Hybrid)
~9 seconds (2.4L I4)
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That's standard on all 2010 Mustangs. They quieted down the car enough on the inside that the engineers felt the owner would miss the sound of the engine. Has nothing to do with the car sounding "weak". I'm sure it sounds the same outside the car since it's a carryover drivetrain. If you've seen the videos of the new Camaro it sounds "weak" also, that's the price of refinement. Fbodfather explains this in another thread.
I think they did tone down the supercharger noise, mine is a little noticeable on my 2009 model but I enjoy hearing it.

I drive with my window cracked most of the time anyway to hear the engine wind up thru the gears. I hope my new camaro will sound as good as my GT 500.

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Toyota Camry 0-60
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I was just figuratively speaking. Funny you looked though.
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I've heard of this before, I think they developed it for Jaguar.
Yup my 07 XKR has it
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It isn't our fault you guys lowered your standards.
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