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Old 05-11-2011, 03:50 PM   #35
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SuperCarEnthusiast was right though, the Jay Leno Camaro was built for road racing.
It was but I don't see GM doing it as a Z28, and I would like to see some more suspension upgrades
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Old 05-12-2011, 01:25 AM   #36
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I would think that replacing the wheels, exhaust and intake with lightweight components could shave about 70-80lbs. U lose those garbage cans out back as well as the heavy exhaust manifolds and replace them with LT headers muff delete and replace the very handsome but heavy as heeeell wheels with lightweight wheels, and u have a lighter machine. I know my CAI intake is much lighter than stock. Even if the beefed up suspension chips away at all of the weight savings and we have a car that is very close to an SS in weight then I still think we have a very formidable package.
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Old 05-12-2011, 03:00 AM   #37
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I would think that replacing the wheels, exhaust and intake with lightweight components could shave about 70-80lbs. U lose those garbage cans out back as well as the heavy exhaust manifolds and replace them with LT headers muff delete and replace the very handsome but heavy as heeeell wheels with lightweight wheels, and u have a lighter machine. I know my CAI intake is much lighter than stock. Even if the beefed up suspension chips away at all of the weight savings and we have a car that is very close to an SS in weight then I still think we have a very formidable package.
Thatís the plan, being close to the SS in weight. In the base case scenario, not saying this would happen but, aftermarket exhaust (not street legal) can see a weight savings of about 60lbs. Thatís with no cats, lightweight mufflers, long tubes and lighter pipe all the way back. Stock, street legal exhaust wouldn't lose that much but a good 30lbs would be believable. Wheels and tires are a good place to drop weight. Although its an expensive way to save weight (as is exhaust), 30lbs is another solid number that is very doable in the wheels and tires. 60lbs is a pretty good dent into the weight gained by upgrading the suspension. If the Z28 could fall between 3840-3880lbs, it would perform very well against other vehicles in its class.
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Something tells me we will see the Z28 in earl July and not even know it, well accept for the fact we have seen it before.
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Something tells me we will see the Z28 in earl July and not even know it, well accept for the fact we have seen it before.
I think that a February 2013 release would be a better route. GM is releasing the ZL1 next February and surely will be releasing another limited edition Synergy Camaro in May 2012 that leaves a nice little gap come February. The main reason they want to release their performance models at the end of Winter (or mid-model year) is because it gives GM enough time to get the car into consumers hands right before the racing season starts. This is why Ford usually starts the new model year from January to April. It allows those who are racing to start the new season with a brand new car.

I am also expecting Camaro sales to be pretty burnt out by then so a new exciting model will be good to turn some attention towards the Camaro at that time. Don't forget the 2014 Mustang III spy photos and info will be popping up around that time so a Z28 announcement would pretty much be the only thing GM has left in their arsenal to fight back by then.
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I think that a February 2013 release would be a better route. GM is releasing the ZL1 next February and surely will be releasing another limited edition Synergy Camaro in May 2012 that leaves a nice little gap come February. The main reason they want to release their performance models at the end of Winter (or mid-model year) is because it gives GM enough time to get the car into consumers hands right before the racing season starts. This is why Ford usually starts the new model year from January to April. It allows those who are racing to start the new season with a brand new car.

I am also expecting Camaro sales to be pretty burnt out by then so a new exciting model will be good to turn some attention towards the Camaro at that time. Don't forget the 2014 Mustang III spy photos and info will be popping up around that time so a Z28 announcement would pretty much be the only thing GM has left in their arsenal to fight back by then.
It wont be announced, I just think we will see the body design in Transformers 3
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It wont be announced, I just think we will see the body design in Transformers 3
There is no way GM will let the Z28 come to market unannounced. This will be the pinnacle of the 5th Gen models, far surpasses the media attention of the ZL1. It will be the most talked about 5th Gen Camaro, it will be on every car magazines cover, there will be a prime time spot on Motorweek and Speed TV about the history and the making of the Z28. Then there will be the ultimate comparison between the Boss 302 and the Z28 in every single publication known to man... They will not let this car go unnoticed...
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Wonder if it will have this spoiler.. I kind of like it
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Wonder if it will have this spoiler.. I kind of like it
Which spoiler? The Jay Leno? I like that spoiler too... It's kinda like a GM 3/4 Blade spoiler. I liked the full length blade spoiler too.
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You are right about the marketing. The Z28 is worth a ton in GM attention getting just like the Boss is for Ford. To me (a marketing guy) it seems obvious that the Z28 has the ability to get and keep interest going. Thats why I know a Z28 will happen. GM is more about making $$$ than pleasing enthusiast, but if you can do both you most defiantly should. Heritage is the card the big three have to continue to play as the foreign competition has little to none here in he states.
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There is no way GM will let the Z28 come to market unannounced. This will be the pinnacle of the 5th Gen models, far surpasses the media attention of the ZL1. It will be the most talked about 5th Gen Camaro, it will be on every car magazines cover, there will be a prime time spot on Motorweek and Speed TV about the history and the making of the Z28. Then there will be the ultimate comparison between the Boss 302 and the Z28 in every single publication known to man... They will not let this car go unnoticed...
Not say it will come to market with the movie, what i mean is that it will most likely be what the Z28 preproduction model will look like when the Z28 is announced years from now.
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I think that Chevrolet could make the panels out of aluminium and save around 120 pounds or a little more; plus they can do the lightweight wheels too like in the ZL1 has - possibly 50-60 pounds in savings; so totally looking at 200 pounds in weight reduction - which will make it very competitive with the Boss 302; even with a small V8 block inside but if they have a dual twin V6; it would be very nice indeed.
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I think that Chevrolet could make the panels out of aluminium and save around 120 pounds or a little more; plus they can do the lightweight wheels too like in the ZL1 has - possibly 50-60 pounds in savings; so totally looking at 200 pounds in weight reduction - which will make it very competitive with the Boss 302; even with a small V8 block inside but if they have a dual twin V6; it would be very nice indeed.
Why?? As has already been discussed, that configuration of the V6 is as heavy if not heavier than an LS3, so I don't see any advantage there. And at this point in time I would not be willing to purchase a V6 Z/28 (that could change in a few years as CAFE takes it's toll on what's available).
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Why?? As has already been discussed, that configuration of the V6 is as heavy if not heavier than an LS3, so I don't see any advantage there. And at this point in time I would not be willing to purchase a V6 Z/28 (that could change in a few years as CAFE takes it's toll on what's available).
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As I have stated before a V6 Z/28 would be an epic failure.

I believe Chevrolet has to get the ZL1 out and in the hands of costumers before any hope that a new Z/28 will even exist.
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I say go for it and build a 427 Z28 while time is left (CAFE tick, tock, tick, tock).
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I say go for it and build a 427 Z28 while time is left (CAFE tick, tock, tick, tock).
We want to build a Z/28, not another iteration of the ZL1!
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The Z06 does quite well on the track with a LS7.
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