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Old 05-23-2011, 12:56 PM   #76
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Thats the best exhaust tone ive heard on a Camaro so far!
Anyone knows an aftermarket exhaust system for a v6 that sounds exactly the same?
sorry,ya can't get the exact same sound from something other than a V-8
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Everybody yelling to get on it and they drove like a 90 year old on valiums , thats a come on man moment. Are they scared to blow it up in front of everyone or what ?
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I'm guessing based on other things posed, that it's not desired they pound on it like that yet..

As much as I'd love to have watching them actually race it -- I can understand why they're not.
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Old 05-23-2011, 02:03 PM   #79
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i want the ZL1 so bad right now
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Old 05-23-2011, 04:14 PM   #81
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Everybody yelling to get on it and they drove like a 90 year old on valiums , thats a come on man moment. Are they scared to blow it up in front of everyone or what ?
The car is pre-production. It would probably be fine....but what if it wasn't? What if (since it's pre-production and not tested) there was a weak spot in the rim somewhere? Imagine if something DID fail...how awful that would look.

Also consider it's one of two show-car ZL1s in existance...some bits hand-assembled...imagine the cost for blowing one of those up...

90 year olds, indeed....
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The car is pre-production. It would probably be fine....but what if it wasn't? What if (since it's pre-production and not tested) there was a weak spot in the rim somewhere? Imagine if something DID fail...how awful that would look.

Also consider it's one of two show-car ZL1s in existance...some bits hand-assembled...imagine the cost for blowing one of those up...

90 year olds, indeed....
Yep and sadly there is a huge amout of liability. If somebody did get on it hard and something broke on this 2nd of 2 ZL1 show cars, there would be some serious lawyering up if anyone was injured.

But I agree, it would have made for great moment. But there are very serious safety protocols for vehicles like this that GM must follow when out in the public domain.
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Old 05-23-2011, 05:06 PM   #83
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Everybody yelling to get on it and they drove like a 90 year old on valiums , thats a come on man moment. Are they scared to blow it up in front of everyone or what ?
The car is electronically limited to 20mph.
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Yep and sadly there is a huge amout of liability. If somebody did get on it hard and something broke on this 2nd of 2 ZL1 show cars, there would be some serious lawyering up if anyone was injured.

But I agree, it would have made for great moment. But there are very serious safety protocols for vehicles like this that GM must follow when out in the public domain.
Have we seen the 1st one? Or - was this car at Chicago?
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Everybody yelling to get on it and they drove like a 90 year old on valiums , thats a come on man moment. Are they scared to blow it up in front of everyone or what ?
I believe that car is limited to 20mph since it is an untested pre-production car from what I was told by the GM designers at the fest.

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Have we seen the 1st one? Or - was this car at Chicago?
The first one was the one with the tape stripe and the standard ZL1 wheels.
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Old 05-23-2011, 05:44 PM   #86
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The first one was the one with the tape stripe and the standard ZL1 wheels.
Correct.

It's kind of humbling to realize Chevy chose the Fest to display the "new" ZL1 show car for the first time, ever!
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Old 05-23-2011, 06:51 PM   #87
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That car is nothing more than what we have. Anybody who has the money can make their car as nice and for sure better than that. Is just an other camaro. Anybody who has their camaro paid for should put that money on making theirs as nice or better than the ZL1. You can do it guys... Does any know if Tuscaloosa Alabama has any Camaro fest in this area? Please let me know
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That car is nothing more than what we have. Anybody who has the money can make their car as nice and for sure better than that. Is just an other camaro. Anybody who has their camaro paid for should put that money on making theirs as nice or better than the ZL1. You can do it guys... Does any know if Tuscaloosa Alabama has any Camaro fest in this area? Please let me know
So wrong.
You have no idea how much has gone into this car. It is very different from 10's and 11's.
Putting all the stuff that a ZL1 has into an SS would cost well over 30K.
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Old 05-23-2011, 09:25 PM   #89
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So wrong. You have no idea how much has gone into this car. It is very different from 10's and 11's. Putting all the stuff that a ZL1 has into an SS would cost well over 30K.
So what your saying is... my SS which costs right at $40K will be replaced by my new ZL1 which will cost $70K. I PRAY for economies of scale on this model!!!
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The car is pre-production. It would probably be fine....but what if it wasn't? What if (since it's pre-production and not tested) there was a weak spot in the rim somewhere? Imagine if something DID fail...how awful that would look.

Also consider it's one of two show-car ZL1s in existance...some bits hand-assembled...imagine the cost for blowing one of those up...

90 year olds, indeed....
hmmm. very good points
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So what your saying is... my SS which costs right at $40K will be replaced by my new ZL1 which will cost $70K. I PRAY for economies of scale on this model!!!
I'm just saying, GM is giving us a huge bang for the buck (considering we still don't know pricing)
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That car is nothing more than what we have. Anybody who has the money can make their car as nice and for sure better than that. Is just an other camaro. Anybody who has their camaro paid for should put that money on making theirs as nice or better than the ZL1. You can do it guys... Does any know if Tuscaloosa Alabama has any Camaro fest in this area? Please let me know
Oh boy... here we go again...
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That car is nothing more than what we have. Anybody who has the money can make their car as nice and for sure better than that. Is just an other camaro. Anybody who has their camaro paid for should put that money on making theirs as nice or better than the ZL1. You can do it guys...
Saying that the ZL1 is just another Camaro is like saying that a 9560 COPO or a first generation Z28 is just another Camaro.

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So wrong.
You have no idea how much has gone into this car. It is very different from 10's and 11's.
Putting all the stuff that a ZL1 has into an SS would cost well over 30K.


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Oh boy... here we go again...


The ZL1 is far more than an SS with a tune and after market parts bolted on to it. One third of the parts on the ZL1 are different from the parts on the SS and are unique to the ZL1. The ZL1 has all of those unique parts and they will have been validated as working together on the vehicle for hundreds of thousands of miles, and the ZL1 will have a factory warranty.
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I'm sorry, but that's immediately what came to my mind. I LOVE SS, and may get one myself, but I'd prefer ZL1 because that's exactly what I want. I don't have to spend another $20K over the next 5-years in order to build my SS into what I want, and completely run through my warranty. Not only that, but factory FI, in our state, will be a lot easier to mod' and keep away from the Man.

I LOVE how that exhaust sounds, though. I hope they get some good 3-inch pipes and have some nice bends so I don't have to do too much. I love hearing the SC in the video with the hood up, too
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I don't have to spend another $20K over the next 5-years in order to build my SS into what I want, and completely run through my warranty. Not only that, but factory FI...
imo that is the most important thing there is! ... FI on an SS without a few extra forged parts (axels and driveshaft) can break depending how hard you drive, and guess what... your warranty wont cover it

while sure the average person on the road probably wont notice any difference between ZL-1 and SS (except for the front cosmetic differences), there is a very big distinction otherwise so you cant really compare a modded SS to a ZL-1
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I'm sorry, but that's immediately what came to my mind. I LOVE SS, and may get one myself, but I'd prefer ZL1 because that's exactly what I want. I don't have to spend another $20K over the next 5-years in order to build my SS into what I want, and completely run through my warranty. Not only that, but factory FI, in our state, will be a lot easier to mod' and keep away from the Man.

I LOVE how that exhaust sounds, though. I hope they get some good 3-inch pipes and have some nice bends so I don't have to do too much. I love hearing the SC in the video with the hood up, too
Haa yeah I just busted out a laugh cause I was thinking the same thing.

I agree I seriously considered giving up my ABM color for a ZL1, but salary negotiations for my new job did not go in my favor so the ZL1 is now out of the question. But to have all that in a OEM car NICE!! I love everything about the ZL1.
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Everybody yelling to get on it and they drove like a 90 year old on valiums , thats a come on man moment. Are they scared to blow it up in front of everyone or what ?
I wanted him to burn rubber too, but when you start doing shows like these guys do, you really don't want to be tearing up the car. I don't know about you, but I'm quite certain that one particular test car costs more than what most people make in ten years.

Plus he knew that he would have been caught on at least ten video cameras doing anything stupid. The liabilities have got to be through the roof on something like that.
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I wanted him to burn rubber too, but when you start doing shows like these guys do, you really don't want to be tearing up the car. I don't know about you, but I'm quite certain that one particular test car costs more than what most people make in ten years.

Plus he knew that he would have been caught on at least ten video cameras doing anything stupid. The liabilities have got to be through the roof on something like that.
im pretty sure GM would electronically limit the car to something like 20 mph anyway ... rooting for a burn out is similar to rooting for a fight when things get escalated at any bar/ballgame etc ... no good will ever come from it
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im pretty sure GM would electronically limit the car to something like 20 mph anyway ... rooting for a burn out is similar to rooting for a fight when things get escalated at any bar/ballgame etc ... no good will ever come from it
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