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1320junkie · 03-01-2009, 05:03 PM

If so, what modifications do you plan on doing?

zebra · 03-01-2009, 05:08 PM

first i wanna break-in my engine, driveline, etc, but if i'm gonna throw out my warranty, it's gonna have a TT, cam, forged internals, CAI, full exhaust (LTs w/ HFC and Xpipe, mufflers), 3:73 rear, pedders suspension, cts-v brakes. that might do me for now

1320junkie · 03-01-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by zebra

first i wanna break-in my engine, driveline, etc, but if i'm gonna throw out my warranty, it's gonna have a TT, cam, forged internals, CAI, full exhaust (LTs w/ HFC and Xpipe, mufflers), 3:73 rear, pedders suspension, cts-v brakes. that might do me for now

I plan on throwing out my warranty very quickly also. I am going to see what LPE comes up with and compare it to the LSx conversion.

UCF w00t · 03-01-2009, 05:12 PM

Your warranty isn't summarily void after making a mod or two. Only if your modifications caused the issue does it have any affect (legally). So like adding custom exhaust won't affect the warranty on other parts of the car. If you make a more serious mod (eg aftermarket cam) they may try and refuse to honor your drive train warranty.

UsedTaHaveA68 · 03-01-2009, 05:13 PM

Long tube headers, high-flow cats, cat-back, CAI, and new bumpstick. Maybe GM's HOT cam? Maybe LG G6x1 or x2? Not sure.

Does the GM HOT cam void the warranty if installed by the dealer? If not, that's definitely what I'm doing.

1320junkie · 03-01-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by UsedTaHaveA68

Long tube headers, high-flow cats, cat-back, CAI, and new bumpstick. Maybe GM's HOT cam? Maybe LG G6x1 or x2? Not sure.

Does the GM HOT cam void the warranty if installed by the dealer? If not, that's definitely what I'm doing.

If it doesn't I am sure that aftermarket tune will void it.

zebra · 03-01-2009, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by UsedTaHaveA68

Long tube headers, high-flow cats, cat-back, CAI, and new bumpstick. Maybe GM's HOT cam? Maybe LG G6x1 or x2? Not sure.

Does the GM HOT cam void the warranty if installed by the dealer? If not, that's definitely what I'm doing.

if i remember right, the hot cam will still void the engine warranty because it ain't a stock part

stovt001 · 03-01-2009, 05:16 PM

Living in the Communist Republic of California (with our gorgeous highest in the nation taxes and sexy double digit unemployment rate) it is practically illegal to modify your engine or exhaust in any way, so my powertrain warranty will probably remain intact. Most of my mods will involve the seats, weight reduction, braking, and suspension improvements.

*CamaroSpike23* · 03-01-2009, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stovt001

Living in the Communist Republic of California (with our gorgeous highest in the nation taxes and sexy double digit unemployment rate) it is practically illegal to modify your engine or exhaust in any way, so my powertrain warranty will probably remain intact. Most of my mods will involve the seats, weight reduction, braking, and suspension improvements.

sounds like its time to move...

SS 376 · 03-01-2009, 05:49 PM

Definitely installing a big cam. The LS3 responds very well to a more aggressive cam.

zebra · 03-01-2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stovt001

Living in the Communist Republic of California (with our gorgeous highest in the nation taxes and sexy double digit unemployment rate) it is practically illegal to modify your engine or exhaust in any way, so my powertrain warranty will probably remain intact. Most of my mods will involve the seats, weight reduction, braking, and suspension improvements.

come to tn. only nashville, knoxville, memphis & their surrounding counties even have emissions tests.

My new Camaro · 03-01-2009, 05:56 PM

no way i could void the warrantry on a car thats not a second or third year production

themossman · 03-01-2009, 06:56 PM

I will void very quickly...but I'm not sure exactly what pieces and parts I will be using.

Pedders needs to get their kits here quickly...

Hylton · 03-01-2009, 07:42 PM

I. will void. LS3 is so de-tuned it's begging to be messed with.

zebra · 03-01-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hylton

I. will void. LS3 is so de-tuned it's begging to be messed with.

your best bet would be to just buy a 2nd PCM module, tune it, and if something happens... put the factory one back in before you take it in for service

RudySRT8 · 03-01-2009, 08:01 PM

Isn't 426 HP enough for american driving ???

JackoMan · 03-01-2009, 08:12 PM

I'm going with the V6, ill prob void the warranty after i decide i need more power. Planning on putting a dual screw supercharger if it will fit. Definitely gonna put in CAI and catback exhaust, because they wont void the warranty.

1320junkie · 03-01-2009, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RudySRT8

Isn't 426 HP enough for american driving ???

Never enough

Muscle Master · 03-01-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RudySRT8

Isn't 426 HP enough for american driving ???

Hell no, I think for Americans 800RWHP is the limit

JMAN311 · 03-01-2009, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by zebra

if i remember right, the hot cam will still void the engine warranty because it ain't a stock part

From the GMPP FAQS:

How much camshaft lobe profile change can I run in my engine and still retain the factory fuel injection set-up?

The fuel injection "Set-Up" consists of several different components including an ECM (Engine Control Module), software calibration and matching engine components (i.e. fuel injectors, cylinder heads, camshaft, ect). The ECM calibration and Fuel Injectors are designed to work well with the supplied cam shaft. Changing any components that affect fuel consumption and emissions, may require a different calibration and/or fuel injectors. GM does not provide or support the use of any ECM calibration other than the one provided with the ECM."

Are adjustments and tuning covered under my warranty?

No, any work and associated costs related to installation, adjustment, set-up or tuning is the responsibility of the Owner.

Can I replace parts on my GM Performance Parts engine without voiding the warranty?

Yes. However, GM will only warranty engines and components against a defect in GM's material or workmanship. The warranty does not cover damage caused by improper installation, negligence, or damage caused by the installation of parts that are not approved by GM.

So no installing the cam wouldn't void your warranty if you used the stock tune. Of course you can't really replace the cam and run a stock tune so you might as well consider the warranty voided, lol.

*The_Blur* · 03-01-2009, 09:39 PM

Here are some facts about your warranty:
• Your dealer will do anything to avoid warranty work on a performance-modified car.
• Your warranty is valid for any parts broken unless it breaks as a direct result of a part that is not factory.
• Non-factory parts are not warranted.
• Modified factory parts are not warranted, even if the modified or alternate parts come from the manufacturer. Such parts may have a separate manufacturer warranty, but the original car warranty is now void. For instance, if you get a GMPP cam, then the engine is not covered under the new car warranty, but the cam is covered under a separate GMPP warranty.
• Extended warranties only cover the same or less than your original factory warranty.
• I have provided a link to a guide on the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.

1320junkie · 03-01-2009, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Blur

Here are some facts about your warranty:
• Your dealer will do anything to avoid warranty work on a performance-modified car.
• Your warranty is valid for any parts broken unless it breaks as a direct result of a part that is not factory.
• Non-factory parts are not warranted.
• Modified factory parts are not warranted, even if the modified or alternate parts come from the manufacturer. Such parts may have a separate manufacturer warranty, but the original car warranty is now void. For instance, if you get a GMPP cam, then the engine is not covered under the new car warranty, but the cam is covered under a separate GMPP warranty.
• Extended warranties only cover the same or less than your original factory warranty.
• I have provided a link to a guide on the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.

Good Post

Bawt · 03-01-2009, 10:26 PM

I'm putting in Kooks headers and a Magnaflow, but I don't think that voids anything. amirite?

Positiveyouth · 03-01-2009, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by stovt001

Living in the Communist Republic of California (with our gorgeous highest in the nation taxes and sexy double digit unemployment rate) it is practically illegal to modify your engine or exhaust in any way, so my powertrain warranty will probably remain intact. Most of my mods will involve the seats, weight reduction, braking, and suspension improvements.

^this, sadly

urr2slo · 03-01-2009, 11:44 PM

i'll be doing a zr1 cam, magnacharger, long tubes with hi flow cats, magnaflow exhaust, hotchkis lowering springs and sway bars and a big brake kit. my only concern is how the diff will hold up.

03-01-2009, 05:03 PM	#1
1320junkie Drives: The Imperial Army Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The Darkside Posts: 15,898	So who here is voiding the Warranty right off the bat? If so, what modifications do you plan on doing?

03-01-2009, 05:08 PM	#2
zebra just can't seem to leave Drives: your mom wild!! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: cold & windy Posts: 11,321 View My Garage	first i wanna break-in my engine, driveline, etc, but if i'm gonna throw out my warranty, it's gonna have a TT, cam, forged internals, CAI, full exhaust (LTs w/ HFC and Xpipe, mufflers), 3:73 rear, pedders suspension, cts-v brakes. that might do me for now __________________

03-01-2009, 05:16 PM	#8
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,817	Living in the Communist Republic of California (with our gorgeous highest in the nation taxes and sexy double digit unemployment rate) it is practically illegal to modify your engine or exhaust in any way, so my powertrain warranty will probably remain intact. Most of my mods will involve the seats, weight reduction, braking, and suspension improvements. __________________ "It's kind of fun to do the impossible" - Walt Disney There's a great big beautiful tomorrow shining at the end of every day There's a great big beautiful tomorrow Just a dream away

03-01-2009, 05:49 PM	#10
SS 376 Drives: IBM 1SS Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: DFW Posts: 1,834	Definitely installing a big cam. The LS3 responds very well to a more aggressive cam. __________________ No one has ever been tearfully reunited with a Toyota.

03-01-2009, 07:42 PM	#14
Hylton Drives: fanboys and ass kissers crazy. Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 7,189	I. will void. LS3 is so de-tuned it's begging to be messed with. __________________ "BBOMG - More than just a car show.... It's an experience!"

03-01-2009, 05:12 PM	#4
UCF w00t Geek Drives: IOM 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Orlando Posts: 4,456	Your warranty isn't summarily void after making a mod or two. Only if your modifications caused the issue does it have any affect (legally). So like adding custom exhaust won't affect the warranty on other parts of the car. If you make a more serious mod (eg aftermarket cam) they may try and refuse to honor your drive train warranty.

03-01-2009, 05:13 PM	#5
UsedTaHaveA68 Drives: Hyundai Sonata Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 497	Long tube headers, high-flow cats, cat-back, CAI, and new bumpstick. Maybe GM's HOT cam? Maybe LG G6x1 or x2? Not sure. Does the GM HOT cam void the warranty if installed by the dealer? If not, that's definitely what I'm doing.

03-01-2009, 05:56 PM	#12
My new Camaro Drives: 2500 hd Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: AR Posts: 297	no way i could void the warrantry on a car thats not a second or third year production

03-01-2009, 06:56 PM	#13
themossman Apprehensive Optimist Drives: '10 SS/RS SIM Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: JAX Posts: 1,389	I will void very quickly...but I'm not sure exactly what pieces and parts I will be using. Pedders needs to get their kits here quickly...

03-01-2009, 08:01 PM	#16
RudySRT8 Account Suspended Drives: 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Miami Posts: 184	Isn't 426 HP enough for american driving ???

03-01-2009, 08:12 PM	#17
JackoMan Drives: Shotgun Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 35	I'm going with the V6, ill prob void the warranty after i decide i need more power. Planning on putting a dual screw supercharger if it will fit. Definitely gonna put in CAI and catback exhaust, because they wont void the warranty. __________________ Future Car: Black 2LT with IO interior Package Former Cars '94 Pontiac Bonneville SSE '01 Volvo C70 "When the train of history goes around a bend, all the intellectuals fall off."

03-01-2009, 09:39 PM	#21
The_Blur Moderator, USN Drives: 2000 Firebird Formula NHRA SE Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Officer Candidate School Posts: 12,713	Here are some facts about your warranty: • Your dealer will do anything to avoid warranty work on a performance-modified car. • Your warranty is valid for any parts broken unless it breaks as a direct result of a part that is not factory. • Non-factory parts are not warranted. • Modified factory parts are not warranted, even if the modified or alternate parts come from the manufacturer. Such parts may have a separate manufacturer warranty, but the original car warranty is now void. For instance, if you get a GMPP cam, then the engine is not covered under the new car warranty, but the cam is covered under a separate GMPP warranty. • Extended warranties only cover the same or less than your original factory warranty. • I have provided a link to a guide on the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. __________________ Get a good deal on your purchase. Read this. 117:123 RESPECT ALL CARS. LOVE YOUR OWN. newborn gifts

03-01-2009, 10:26 PM	#23
Bawt Future Camaro Owner! Drives: 2010 Mustang GT soon Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Scottsdale Posts: 187	I'm putting in Kooks headers and a Magnaflow, but I don't think that voids anything. amirite? __________________

03-01-2009, 11:44 PM	#25
urr2slo Drives: 2010 2ss ss/rs abm Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chandler, Az Posts: 942	i'll be doing a zr1 cam, magnacharger, long tubes with hi flow cats, magnaflow exhaust, hotchkis lowering springs and sway bars and a big brake kit. my only concern is how the diff will hold up.

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