WIDENING THE STOCK WHEELS

[kmcd]

Originally Posted by yotaman96

I think this will probably look the best. I believe the word you were looking for is stance, not rake.

You could get your stock fronts narrowed and run them as skinnies at the strip.

It's only money, you can always make more.

I stand corrected. We're wider in the back, not taller.

I'm still a little hesitant to scale back to the 15-mm adapters because I don't like the idea of cutting threads off the studs. I'd still like the option to take them off for the drag strip. Maybe I'm just being too anal about it though. With the way that adapter is made and the way it fits, I doubt the structural integrity of the hub/wheel assembly has been compromised. I should probably just commit to them and be done with it.

[kmcd]

Originally Posted by bkscott

You could also get another set of adapters for the front, and move them out to match the rears.

There is a guy in Germany running adapters on all 4 wheels. Looks good.

Pictures?

Maybe I could do this until I need new tires again. It shouldn't take too long.

[bkscott]

Give me a few.

Here you go. Hopefully I won't get into trouble for linking to another site. Those are the stock wheels on H&R 20mm adapters on stock wheels and tires.

http://www.moderncamaro.com/forum/5t...lack-rims.html

[STARSKI]

So you guys all think I'm better off putting a set of rears on the front? Instead of widening the fronts?

[yotaman96]

Originally Posted by STARSKI

So you guys all think I'm better off putting a set of rears on the front? Instead of widening the fronts?

You could buy two wheels cheaper than what it costs to widen them.

[kmcd]

Originally Posted by yotaman96

You could buy two wheels cheaper than what it costs to widen them.

Yep. The only reason we widened the rears is because you can't buy 10.5-inch stockers. You can buy 9-inch stockers for the front, and because of the net difference in width minus offset, you'll gain a little outboard movement as a bonus.

[STARSKI]

Ok but I already bought a full set of wheels. Not just 2. I have 2 full sets. One of them I powdercoated front and backs already. So I was just going to send all them to get widened. If not I'm gonna end up with 4 fronts that are mix match unless I powdercoat the rest of the wheels I have.

[kmcd]

Originally Posted by STARSKI

Ok but I already bought a full set of wheels. Not just 2. I have 2 full sets. One of them I powdercoated front and backs already. So I was just going to send all them to get widened. If not I'm gonna end up with 4 fronts that are mix match unless I powdercoat the rest of the wheels I have.

Well, now that you've explained your dilemma,

[STARSKI]

So you guys think I can widen the fronts to 9.5 and put a spacer on them? And widen the rears to 10.8 or 11?

[kmcd]

Originally Posted by STARSKI

So you guys think I can widen the fronts to 9.5 and put a spacer on them? And widen the rears to 10.8 or 11?

The fronts will work. If you go past 10.5 on the rears, you'll need spacers on the back too.

[CosmicBrut]

I just put a set of widened wheels on my 2011 SS. They are the stock 20x9 wheels widened to 20x10.5. This is my setup for the track so I put nitto nt05r 315/35/20s on them. The car is lowered 1.25 " with pdaft drop springs and the wheels clear everything even though the car is lowered. They miss the inner wheel well by a little more then half an inch with no spacers. I drove them around quite a bit and they dont rub at all so i guess they are good to go. Just figured id post this to help anyone else out who has lowered their car and is worried about clearance issues. Hope this helps.

[STARSKI]

So what did you do on your front wheels?

Originally Posted by CosmicBrut

I just put a set of widened wheels on my 2011 SS. They are the stock 20x9 wheels widened to 20x10.5. This is my setup for the track so I put nitto nt05r 315/35/20s on them. The car is lowered 1.25 " with pdaft drop springs and the wheels clear everything even though the car is lowered. They miss the inner wheel well by a little more then half an inch with no spacers. I drove them around quite a bit and they dont rub at all so i guess they are good to go. Just figured id post this to help anyone else out who has lowered their car and is worried about clearance issues. Hope this helps.

[PoleCat2SSRS2010]

Originally Posted by CosmicBrut

I just put a set of widened wheels on my 2011 SS. They are the stock 20x9 wheels widened to 20x10.5. This is my setup for the track so I put nitto nt05r 315/35/20s on them. The car is lowered 1.25 " with pdaft drop springs and the wheels clear everything even though the car is lowered. They miss the inner wheel well by a little more then half an inch with no spacers. I drove them around quite a bit and they dont rub at all so i guess they are good to go. Just figured id post this to help anyone else out who has lowered their car and is worried about clearance issues. Hope this helps.

How is the traction difference with the 20 inch Nittos compared to the Pirellis? Your sig shows a stall and a cam so it must be minimal with the p zeros compared to the Nittos.

[CosmicBrut]

Originally Posted by STARSKI

So what did you do on your front wheels?

I left the stock 245s on the front

[CosmicBrut]

Originally Posted by PoleCat2SSRS2010

How is the traction difference with the 20 inch Nittos compared to the Pirellis? Your sig shows a stall and a cam so it must be minimal with the p zeros compared to the Nittos.

The traction difference is huge just with the burnout. The nto5rs barely wanted to even spin, compared to the stockers that spin on demand.

[kmcd]

Originally Posted by CosmicBrut

The traction difference is huge just with the burnout. The nto5rs barely wanted to even spin, compared to the stockers that spin on demand.

[kmcd]

Originally Posted by yotaman96

Sticking out too much with the 8" wheels up front.

Originally Posted by kmcd

Yeah, I was afraid of that. I could go with the 15-mm spacer, but I'm pretty sure I'd have to sacrifice some threads on the stock studs.

What if I put another set of 9-inch OEM rears on the front with 275 INVOs? Isn't that what you're doing?

I went ahead and moved the 8-inch/245 fronts out by 20 mm until I need new tires, at which time I'll put 9-inch stockers up front with 275s.

Does this look any better?

[yotaman96]

That looks a lot better. Are the spacers in the back still 20mm?

[kmcd]

Originally Posted by yotaman96

That looks a lot better. Are the spacers in the back still 20mm?

Yep. Twenty millimeters on all four corners now. This way I didn't lose any threads on the stock studs, so I still have the option to take them off when I go to the track.

If I had it to do over again, though, I'd put rear stockers up front like you're doing. The 275 INVOs would look good up there (when are we going to see your pics?).

Oh well, I'll need new tires eventually.

[yotaman96]

Nitto just did a production run on the 315/35/20 Invos and are sending them to people on the emergency list. I'm on that list now and should have the tires in my possession hopefully Friday.

[bkscott]

Any change in steering feel or response with the adapters up front?

[kmcd]

Originally Posted by bkscott

Any change in steering feel or response with the adapters up front?

I know the wider track is supposed to enhance the handling characteristics, but I can't tell any difference. I'm gonna' check the adapters here in a few days, and I'll let you know if they require any re-torque.

Actually, I did notice one change, and it's going to sound goofy, but the brakes are quieter now. Don't ask me why. Maybe the harmonics changed on the wheel/hub assembly.

[bkscott]

I get my tires next week, and I will drop the wheels off the Monday after that. btw Ramiro is no longer working there. Don't know why.

[Rogan]

Originally Posted by bkscott

I get my tires next week, and I will drop the wheels off the Monday after that. btw Ramiro is no longer working there. Don't know why.

i didnt read the entire thread but i am assuming you had your widened at weldcraft? what was the turn around?

[bkscott]

Originally Posted by Rogan

i didnt read the entire thread but i am assuming you had your widened at weldcraft? what was the turn around?

He had them widened at Wheels America here in Dallas Texas. That is where I am taking mine.