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Old 05-18-2011, 03:05 PM   #154
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Here's the Bow Tie delete, let me see if I can do a quick chop on the wheels. Wheel's are not a major priority as they can be swapped and one wheel never fits all... Bow Tie delete does look cool though...
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Old 05-18-2011, 03:21 PM   #155
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See what it looks like if you remove the bowtie, and have smaller spokes on the wheels ( not as wide).
I can throw the stock chrome wheels back on it though, the spokes look thinner.
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Old 05-18-2011, 03:24 PM   #156
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can you make em a lil thinner? and oh the exhaust come out on the side
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can you make em a lil thinner? and oh the exhaust come out on the side
The wheels are the last thing we will worry about, I am looking for SSX wheels that will fit. The original concept had side exhaust but I removed it, anyone that has seen how side exhaust is set up never wants it.
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Old 05-18-2011, 03:35 PM   #158
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The wheels are the last thing we will worry about, I am looking for SSX wheels that will fit. The original concept had side exhaust but I removed it, anyone that has seen how side exhaust is set up never wants it.
ssx wheels are good
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This is where I'm gonna leave off for tonight, maybe try to work in the Jay Leno heat extractor hood a little later. I am really happy with the product so far, did some minor touch ups and replaced the concept side mirror with the stock one. I also repositioned the Z28 badge in the grille after the bowtie delete and re-sized it.

I will fool around with it tomorrow... I would love to hear what Number 3 thinks...

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Old 05-18-2011, 05:15 PM   #160
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Old 05-18-2011, 05:18 PM   #161
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I'm not Number 3, but I'm diggin it.
It's really aggressive and looks very athletic, kind of like a 5th Gen went to the gym for cardio. This build has to be part of a refresh though, the entire car is smaller starting at the front fascia. The front fenders are not as tall as the current car, the rear end is about 3-4 inches shorter... I am going to see if I can get it a little more lean... Look at the front fender height compared to the current car, the fenders are about 2-3 inches (maybe more) shorter. This actually lowers the hood and makes outward windshield visibility better..
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This is where I'm gonna leave off for tonight, maybe try to work in the Jay Leno heat extractor hood a little later. I am really happy with the product so far, did some minor touch ups and replaced the concept side mirror with the stock one. I also repositioned the Z28 badge in the grille after the bowtie delete and re-sized it.

I will fool around with it tomorrow... I would love to hear what Number 3 thinks...
Not sure how functional that chin would be aero wise.
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Old 05-18-2011, 05:29 PM   #164
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Car looks bad ass with the bowtie off.

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The wheels are the last thing we will worry about, I am looking for SSX wheels that will fit. The original concept had side exhaust but I removed it, anyone that has seen how side exhaust is set up never wants it.
I think long ago it was stated that it would not work for a factory car along with a functional mail slot.
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Here are some revised Z/28 designs. I noticed more people liking the spy shot Z28 and the BB v.2 ram air hood. I personally dont like that version of the hood. So I made a revision to my original Z/28 concept that intergraded the "BB v.2" cues in a fashion that made me love it. Also I included a Z/28 only hood stripe on one.







Here is what was designed by Jinx a while ago. Also it may be able to make the the Leno fog light multi function as brake ducts.


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Not sure how functional that chin would be aero wise.
The one piece bumper cover/splitter fascia is intended to eliminate air from going under the car and dispense airflow to the sides or into the radiator. I would also like to see the Z28 GS.R come with an adjustable splitter that bolts on to the factory splitter (the Intimidator Camaro's splitter). The adjustable splitter does not come attached to the Z28, it is for off road use only and is to be mounted before competition (same with the rear adjustable spoiler). Race speeds for this car should be between 70 and 130mph as many other cars in its class speeds are.

Z28 GS.R additional factory race equipment (Adjustable front splitter & Adjustable rear spoiler). Race equipment can be used as replacements for the OEM splitter (if the splitter is not one piece with the fascia) and spoiler, Race equipment is for off road use ONLY:
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Old 05-18-2011, 05:54 PM   #168
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Car looks badass with the bowtie off.

What do you guys think?
Thanks man, we will get to the wheels after we sort the body out.
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Old 05-18-2011, 06:10 PM   #169
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One of the things I love about this refresh is the simple rear end downsizing. I decreased the overhang behind the rear tire by 3-4 inches which really tightened up the rear end from the profile angle.
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honestly not to be rude it just sounds like a bunch of excuses and that gm has thrown in the towel and that we just have to accept how they build things......my response to expenses is get it done it is there job isnt it?
Its not excueses, its engineering. And you don't have to accept how they build things, there are a dozen other automakers who you can buy from if you want. But only GM makes Camaros.

As for cost ... there's never a free lunch. Everything always costs something. Be it money, or weight, or quality/effectiveness. Take the structure of the car for example. They went with a low cost structure that was very strong. As a result, its heavy. For about the same cost they could make it lighter by going with less steel. Problem is, its not nearly as strong anymore (lowering the quality/effectiveness). Alternatively, they could have kept it strong and went with another metal, such as aluminum, to save weight. But now its expensive.

Balancing those factors, along with many others, is whats at the core of engineering. It applies to all the parts in the car.
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