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Old 05-17-2011, 08:31 PM   #137
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Those teams are doing something with the suspensions mounting points that are making the cars handle very, very well.
Yup. They're called solid sub-frame mounting-point bushings...GREAT for racing. HORRIBLE for the comfort demanded of a street car.

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I would say that the 6th Gen Camaro adopts the Corvette's chassis so they could start with a very lightweight setup. They could easily reach 3200lbs with an Ecotec 2.0 and cost would still be mitigated because it still is technically global. I doubt anyone on Team Corvette would want to hear any of that though...
Y-Body is not flexible. It's simply a Corvette.

They'd need to design an entirely new RWD platform...

But we're still not sure what we're reading. If it's the Alpha CTS-V that is reaching 4000 lbs...that's already an improvement on the current model. Who knows what the rumor is about?...
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Old 05-18-2011, 12:52 AM   #138
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Yup. They're called solid sub-frame mounting-point bushings...GREAT for racing. HORRIBLE for the comfort demanded of a street car.


Y-Body is not flexible. It's simply a Corvette.

They'd need to design an entirely new RWD platform...

But we're still not sure what we're reading. If it's the Alpha CTS-V that is reaching 4000 lbs...that's already an improvement on the current model. Who knows what the rumor is about?...
Gotcha, read into the Corvette chassis in depth last night...

and, I am also reading that that 4000lbs maybe the AWD version so that's not too shabby if its an AWD, TT V6, 4 door sedan. If it is the CTS-V that means the 2SS Camaro could easily see a 260lb weight loss. I have no idea how much the 2012 Camaro 2SS weighs this year though but I think it is around 3910. Still, that's about 3650lbs...way better than before...

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Old 05-18-2011, 12:58 AM   #139
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Old 05-18-2011, 09:03 AM   #140
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Well spoken, were on a roll here too. I think Number 3 will chime in here soon and critique our ideas so lets get our ideas up here so he can give us thumbs up/thumbs down and we can keep going/correct what ever needs to be.

We also need to form a Z committee and get organized, we, the body, should vote for one moderator as the head and from there he delegates task to the body. Everything from advertisement, promotions, drivetrain figures, transmission specs, R&D, Estimated MSRP and so on... Sounds like fun and I am bored...
I like this idea.
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Old 05-18-2011, 12:39 PM   #141
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2013 Camaro Z28 concept

My rendition of the 2013 5th Gen Camaro Z28.
ZL1 influenced front fascia with one piece bumper cover/splitter
SS Fog lights
Rear end shortened
Concept side mirrors
Rear brake cooling ducts
Rear spoiler delete


Pretty simple chop, I will add the mesh in the grille and possibly a mail slot delete. This was done in 16 layers so I need some feedback before I get too far into it... I need to know if the mail slot needs to go and if the rear brake ducts need to be converted back to the Camaro gills.

I think this body style makes the car seem slimmer and more swept than the current car, the original is at the bottom for a reference.

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Old 05-18-2011, 01:05 PM   #142
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keep the brake ducts....also increase the window surface area behind the driver and passenger door, visablity is hard enough as it is. interesting aero in the front looks like it should create more downforce, the ride height is way to low, although it looks good not really ideal in todays world, the rim spokes need to be thinner and sexier looking, hmmm not a bad rough draft though
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Old 05-18-2011, 01:09 PM   #143
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lol y is camaro spelled backwards?
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Old 05-18-2011, 01:33 PM   #144
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lol y is camaro spelled backwards?
It's spelled backwards on the original because I flipped the picture to match the Z28.
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Old 05-18-2011, 01:37 PM   #145
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Slats used instead of mesh in the grille
Side mirror enlarged
Roof recolored and reshaped from previous chop
Mail slot deleted
Still trying to straighten the front splitter, it is really messing with me.
Z28 badge in the grille, Is the placement of the badge correct?

Whats next? I think the mail slot really did wonders for the car...

Edit: Front splitter a little straighter, gettin' there...
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Old 05-18-2011, 02:00 PM   #147
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Slats used instead of mesh in the grille
Side mirror enlarged
Roof recolored and reshaped from previous chop
Mail slot deleted
Still trying to straighten the front splitter, it is really messing with me.

Whats next? I think the mail slot delete set it off...
yeah its def smiling way to big now
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Better than the original...
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Better than the original...
def looks better and more functional as well, good job keep it up, see what you can do with the hood as well and then we will move on from there, see about putting the fog lights above that
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def looks better and more functional as well, good job keep it up, see what you can do with the hood as well and then we will move on from there, see about putting the fog lights above that
I'm lookin' at the Jay Leno hood right now to see if I can just transplant it on to our Z28.

Where do you want me to move the fog lights to?
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I'm lookin' at the Jay Leno hood right now to see if I can just transplant it on to our Z28.

Where do you want me to move the fog lights to?
above the vents but not to much directly below the headlights just offset
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Old 05-18-2011, 02:48 PM   #152
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See what it looks like if you remove the bowtie and have smaller spokes on the wheels ( not as wide).
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See what it looks like if you remove the bowtie, and have smaller spokes on the wheels ( not as wide).
Here's the Bow Tie delete, let me see if I can do a quick chop on the wheels. Wheel's are not a major priority as they can be swapped and one wheel never fits all... Bow Tie delete does look cool though...

Edit: Yeah, wheels are gonna be a nightmare and a couple hours to pull off, I would rather just search the web and find something I can transplant...
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