Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Anthony @ LG Motorsports
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Technical Camaro Topics > Cosmetic Maintenance: Washing, Waxing, Detailing, Bodywork, Protection

Cosmetic Maintenance: Washing, Waxing, Detailing, Bodywork, Protection Anything related to keeping your Camaro clean and in good cosmetic condition.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-13-2011, 02:34 PM   #1
mwayne7571
 
mwayne7571's Avatar
 
Drives: White 2lt rs
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Nederland Texas
Posts: 64
ClayBar a Must!

OK I have been surfing these forums for about 5-6 months now, And I have learned a lot of things on here. But this is by far the best thing I have learned! I listen to a lot of folks on here talking about Mods! Well this is all good, to each there on right? Well let me tell you if your going to own a car of this caliber you need to Clay it! I just had my done three weeks out of the Dealership. And all I can say is WOW! This is the best decision I have ever made owning a Vehicle. Its so AWESOME I don't have the words except......Just do it!!!!!
__________________
Its not just a car! Its a way of life
mwayne7571 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2011, 02:37 PM   #2
ackeight

 
ackeight's Avatar
 
Drives: 10' 2SS/RS
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: DFW
Posts: 1,315
LOL. Yup. Gets all the nasty off the car w/o a scratch.
ackeight is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2011, 02:45 PM   #3
bthomp01
 
bthomp01's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2SS/RS IBM M6
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 354
Doing this as soon as I leave work today, going to get it washed (just confirmed there's nowhere for me to do it myself at the apartment complex, ugh), stop by autozone to pick up a clay kit and do it myself when it cools down a bit out there. I can't wait!
__________________
2010 IBM 2SS/RS - T BRUTAL

Matte Black Bumblebee Stripes - Unpainted Heritage Grille - Blacked Out Bowties - Stainless Works S-Tube Catback - CAI, Inc. Cold Air Intake
Whiteline Rear Cradle, Rear Differential, Front Radius Rod Bushings - BC Racing BR Coilovers - Installed by Whiteside Customs

bthomp01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2011, 02:55 PM   #4
SlingShot


 
SlingShot's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 ZL1 - #670
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Seminole, Fl.
Posts: 6,958
I would suggest the Turtle Wax Ice clay kit. It comes with a liquid clay that is used on step one, and it works great for removing any type of stains.
__________________
SlingShot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2011, 02:56 PM   #5
rjdapilmoto
DAP-ONE [COTW - 12/23/13]
 
rjdapilmoto's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 - 2SS/RS IOM
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 2,862
Is it okay getting the clay kit from Autozone as opposed to buying the expensive stuff from Adam's?
rjdapilmoto is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2011, 03:16 PM   #6
The Stig
knows 2 facts about ducks
 
The Stig's Avatar
 
Drives: ...and they're both wrong
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: The HMS Invincible
Posts: 26,693
Adam's Polishes.
__________________
Click to view my build thread
The Stig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2011, 03:21 PM   #7
bthomp01
 
bthomp01's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2SS/RS IBM M6
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 354
Quote:
Originally Posted by rjdapilmoto View Post
Is it okay getting the clay kit from Autozone as opposed to buying the expensive stuff from Adam's?
I'd love to get the adams stuff, but by the time I made the decision to clay this week it would have been too long to wait for delivery. In the maintenance forum there's a list of suggested products and I've heard lots of good things about a few different bar manufacturers. I'll probably just end up going with whatever is recommended, and has the most complete kit (most detail spray, best towel)
__________________
2010 IBM 2SS/RS - T BRUTAL

Matte Black Bumblebee Stripes - Unpainted Heritage Grille - Blacked Out Bowties - Stainless Works S-Tube Catback - CAI, Inc. Cold Air Intake
Whiteline Rear Cradle, Rear Differential, Front Radius Rod Bushings - BC Racing BR Coilovers - Installed by Whiteside Customs

bthomp01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2011, 03:25 PM   #8
Ironheadspearo
ride the pain train
 
Ironheadspearo's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 1LT RS, 1998 fxstc HD
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Daytona Beach
Posts: 2,057
I use ardex detailing chemicals and they sell a real nice clay bar. I recently clayed an entire honda crv that was covered in rust specs from being towed behind an RV. car looked like new once done. it wears your wrists bad when you have a car that needs alot of stuff removed though. carpel tunnel city
__________________
PAIN is temporary, PRIDE is forever......RACE HARD
Ironheadspearo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2011, 03:25 PM   #9
Dasein
 
Dasein's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 CGM 1LT
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 224
Can you clay the stripes? What about washing and waxing? I heard from someone that you need to tape the edges down but idk how accurate that is
Dasein is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2011, 03:26 PM   #10
nancygrl
155 mil na godzinę
 
nancygrl's Avatar
 
Drives: Sapphire Moon Whisper 2013 2LT
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Greensboro, NC
Posts: 1,308
Have any before/after pics?????
__________________
2013 2LT/RS/Auto/Hot Wheels Package

Gone but not forgotten....2011 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 6M.......Traded 8/2013
nancygrl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2011, 03:30 PM   #11
Ironheadspearo
ride the pain train
 
Ironheadspearo's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 1LT RS, 1998 fxstc HD
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Daytona Beach
Posts: 2,057
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dasein View Post
Can you clay the stripes? What about washing and waxing? I heard from someone that you need to tape the edges down but idk how accurate that is
you could clay glossy stripes but i wouldnt do anything to flat ones
__________________
PAIN is temporary, PRIDE is forever......RACE HARD
Ironheadspearo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2011, 03:53 PM   #12
bthomp01
 
bthomp01's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2SS/RS IBM M6
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 354
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dasein View Post
Can you clay the stripes? What about washing and waxing? I heard from someone that you need to tape the edges down but idk how accurate that is
I was told not to clay the stripes, and for taking care of them otherwise I think most people just wash them and leave them alone. I do have flat black stripes though so I don't want them to have a wax or polish sheen to them.
__________________
2010 IBM 2SS/RS - T BRUTAL

Matte Black Bumblebee Stripes - Unpainted Heritage Grille - Blacked Out Bowties - Stainless Works S-Tube Catback - CAI, Inc. Cold Air Intake
Whiteline Rear Cradle, Rear Differential, Front Radius Rod Bushings - BC Racing BR Coilovers - Installed by Whiteside Customs

bthomp01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2011, 04:12 PM   #13
first one

 
first one's Avatar
 
Drives: SSRS - black, GFX, 21" whls
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: IN
Posts: 934
Quote:
Originally Posted by mwayne7571 View Post
OK I have been surfing these forums for about 5-6 months now, And I have learned a lot of things on here. But this is by far the best thing I have learned! I listen to a lot of folks on here talking about Mods! Well this is all good, to each there on right? Well let me tell you if your going to own a car of this caliber you need to Clay it! I just had my done three weeks out of the Dealership. And all I can say is WOW! This is the best decision I have ever made owning a Vehicle. Its so AWESOME I don't have the words except......Just do it!!!!!
So, you had the dealership clay your car. Can you tell me what they charged you for the service?
__________________
first one is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2011, 04:20 PM   #14
ffrcobra_65
Account Suspended
 
Drives: SuperCharged 2SS/RS IOM MN6
Join Date: May 2009
Location: CA
Posts: 5,101
Makes the paint surface feel like smooth glass. A must do prior to polishing/waxing for sure. You don't need the dealer to do it. Takes 1 hour tops to do it on your own.
ffrcobra_65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2011, 04:36 PM   #15
CooG
Never ******
 
CooG's Avatar
 
Drives: '11 Camaro SS/RS Convertible - RED
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 950
Loves me some clay bar!!!
CooG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2011, 04:39 PM   #16
SSOOCH
Camaro SL,UTs
 
SSOOCH's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS #16429
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: South Jordan, UT
Posts: 7,426
Any clay will do. I love Adam's products but Meguiar's or Mother's from Autozone, Target or Walmart will do just fine. Make sure and keep the surface lubricated with detail spray or soapy water.
__________________
SSOOCH is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2011, 04:43 PM   #17
GQ4Life


 
Drives: 2010 Camaro SS LS3
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Fishkill, NY
Posts: 5,195
I got all meguiars stuff.. I am going to get clay bar too but I only clay like once a year.. which it is about that time
__________________
C7 Stingray ordered 6-7-13 (RCHT2P) 3300 status
GQ4Life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2011, 04:47 PM   #18
Nick@Adams



 
Nick@Adams's Avatar
 
Drives: The shiny ones.
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: In the detail shop!
Posts: 4,675
Quote:
Originally Posted by SlingShot View Post
I would suggest the Turtle Wax Ice clay kit. It comes with a liquid clay that is used on step one, and it works great for removing any type of stains.
Thats not the same thing as clay and a misrepresentation of what the product does on the part of the Turtlewax people... by the very definition of it its actually a cleansing polish, but it is not capable of lifting the bonded contamination that an actual claybar is.

We have a similar product, its called Revive... while it will clean the paint nicely, it does not do near as well as a clay bar at decontaminating.

You can use that 'liquid clay' then immediately use a traditional clay bar after it and you'll see the clay continues to pick things up that the 'liquid clay' simply isn't capable of.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rjdapilmoto View Post
Is it okay getting the clay kit from Autozone as opposed to buying the expensive stuff from Adam's?
Clay is clay is clay... anyone being honest with you will tell you this. Automagic owns the patent on all clay sold within the US thru the end of this year... as such all clay you get (ours, mothers, meguiars, etc) is coming from the same place. The only difference you'll see is colors, grades, and size.

We use a fine grade sticky clay and give you a full 200grams (more than enough to break into 3 chunks for lots of uses) with an air tight storage jar.

The stuff you'll get at autozone is equally effective, its fine grade as well, the main thing is they give you tiny little pieces, but it is what it is... enough to get the job done.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dasein View Post
Can you clay the stripes? What about washing and waxing? I heard from someone that you need to tape the edges down but idk how accurate that is
I'd advise against it, more importantly avoid crossing the edge of them as that edge will hold bits of clay.
__________________
Email: Nick@AdamsPolishes.com
Follow us on Facebook and Twitter @AdamsPolishes
Use the code CAMARO5 or CORVETTE7 at checkout to save 10% off your next order at www.AdamsPolishes.com

Last edited by Nick@Adams; 05-13-2011 at 05:17 PM.
Nick@Adams is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2011, 05:04 PM   #19
SlingShot


 
SlingShot's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 ZL1 - #670
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Seminole, Fl.
Posts: 6,958
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan@Adams View Post
Thats not the same thing as clay and a misrepresentation of what the product does on the part of the Turtlewax people... by the very definition of it its actually a cleansing polish, but it is not capable of lifting the bonded contamination that an actual claybar is.

We have a similar product, its called Revive... while it will clean the paint nicely, it does not near as well as a clay bar at decontaminating.

You can use that 'liquid clay' then immediately use a traditional clay bar after it and you'll see the clay continues to pick things up that the 'liquid clay' simply isn't capable of.



Clay is clay is clay... anyone being honest with you will tell you this. Automagic owns the patent on all clay sold within the US thru the end of this year... as such all clay you get (ours, mothers, meguiars, etc) is coming from the same place. The only difference you'll see is colors, grades, and size.

We use a fine grade sticky clay and give you a full 200grams (more than enough to break into 3 chunks for lots of uses) with an air tight storage jar.

The stuff you'll get at autozone is equally effective, its fine grade as well, the main thing is they give you tiny little pieces, but it is what it is... enough to get the job done.



I'd advise against it, more importantly avoid crossing the edge of them as that edge will hold bits of clay.


Nothing personal, but you didn't understand my post at all. Turtle wax clay kit has clay bars and lubricant as well as the liquid. Nobody said the liquid clay replaced the bar clay. It's more of a complete kit than the others on the market, and is available just about anywhere.
__________________
SlingShot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2011, 05:06 PM   #20
Nick@Adams



 
Nick@Adams's Avatar
 
Drives: The shiny ones.
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: In the detail shop!
Posts: 4,675
Maybe I am misunderstanding you, but you said a 'a liquid clay that is used on step one'... the product they have called "liquid clay" which is a paint cleanser is the one I'm referring to. I understand they have a traditional clay kit, but the common confusion with people who don't know any better is to pick up the 'liquid clay' and assume its a reasonable substitute for an actual claybar.

More specifically this one:



and direct from TW -
Quote:
The Turtle Wax ICE Liquid Clay Bar is a revolutionary new way to deep clean and restore your car's finish in a fraction of the time it takes with traditional clay bars. A unique triple layer formula consists of a scratch & swirl remover, cleaning agents and an exfoliate that work together to provide outstanding cleaning capabilities. Does not contain harsh abrasives that can scratch or scuff your finish. Easily removes minor scratches, swirls marks, tree sap, paint overspray and embedded dirt and stains that ordinary detailing clays leave behind and creates a smooth as glass finish on all paintwork, fiberglass and metal surfaces.
the very description lays out that its a paint cleansing polish... but by calling it a clay people think they're getting the same result with less work. Its clever, but a tad on the shady side of marketing IMO
__________________
Email: Nick@AdamsPolishes.com
Follow us on Facebook and Twitter @AdamsPolishes
Use the code CAMARO5 or CORVETTE7 at checkout to save 10% off your next order at www.AdamsPolishes.com

Last edited by Nick@Adams; 05-13-2011 at 05:16 PM.
Nick@Adams is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2011, 05:15 PM   #21
ramar
2nd Childhood
 
ramar's Avatar
 
Drives: Synergy Green
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Flemington, Mo.
Posts: 146
Dylan, I thought the Liquid Clay was the same as a clay bar..thanks for the info....
ramar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2011, 05:17 PM   #22
The Stig
knows 2 facts about ducks
 
The Stig's Avatar
 
Drives: ...and they're both wrong
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: The HMS Invincible
Posts: 26,693
I just want to say this, because I don't know if people are aware. After you clay the car there is NOTHING protecting your paint. You need to follow up claying with waxing.
__________________
Click to view my build thread
The Stig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2011, 05:18 PM   #23
2SS4JAS
 
2SS4JAS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 IBM 2ss
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Acworth,Ga
Posts: 229
plan on doing the whole Adams thing on Sunday claying to waxing and using my porter-cable for the first time, getting ready for the fbodygathering coming up
__________________
2SS4JAS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2011, 05:19 PM   #24
denny2188
 
denny2188's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 IBM Camaro 2LT
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 394
Meguiars Clay Bar Kit worked very well for me
denny2188 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2011, 05:19 PM   #25
Nick@Adams



 
Nick@Adams's Avatar
 
Drives: The shiny ones.
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: In the detail shop!
Posts: 4,675
Quote:
Originally Posted by ramar View Post
Dylan, I thought the Liquid Clay was the same as a clay bar..thanks for the info....
No problem.

And please don't think I'm bashing the product, it very well might be a nice paint cleanser, but to say that a polishing product could take the place of a claybar is misleading and want to make sure people understand that.
__________________
Email: Nick@AdamsPolishes.com
Follow us on Facebook and Twitter @AdamsPolishes
Use the code CAMARO5 or CORVETTE7 at checkout to save 10% off your next order at www.AdamsPolishes.com
Nick@Adams is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
ClayBar mwayne7571 Cosmetic Maintenance: Washing, Waxing, Detailing, Bodywork, Protection 8 01-11-2011 01:05 PM
claybar stripes jayrn3 Cosmetic Maintenance: Washing, Waxing, Detailing, Bodywork, Protection 1 05-01-2010 02:45 PM
Claybar Cleaner and Extender Angelo@Autopia Cosmetic Maintenance: Washing, Waxing, Detailing, Bodywork, Protection 15 02-02-2010 11:37 AM
Claybar before clear bra? angelicsowner Cosmetic Maintenance: Washing, Waxing, Detailing, Bodywork, Protection 9 12-16-2009 07:21 AM
After claybar, there are still spots? sooner25 Cosmetic Maintenance: Washing, Waxing, Detailing, Bodywork, Protection 24 07-10-2009 11:09 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.