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Old 05-16-2011, 07:17 PM   #29
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-___________________________________- they really couldn't of put these in the 2011? assholes.
i feel you body, when onstar said they won't have app for 2010 camaros. so i'm just going to wait couple of years . pay this one of save money for the next good one. This is like buying a phone, then they come out with a better one every 6 months T_T. expensive toy
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Old 05-16-2011, 07:24 PM   #30
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323 HP from the factory sounds like a nice amount.
Yes, it is,....but it still won't be enough for a stock v6 Camaro to beat any other competitive v6 out there like the 370z,....350z, or even the Mustang v6.

It's great that they improved the design, but it's not enough improvment for the customer to notice a difference. Now if Chevy pops up with 350-376hp V6,....now you have something serious on your hands. That would be something I'd give a big thumbs up for....not just 11 hp.
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Old 05-16-2011, 07:32 PM   #31
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Yes, it is,....but it still won't be enough for a stock v6 Camaro to beat any other competitive v6 out there like the 370z,....350z, or even the Mustang v6.

It's great that they improved the design, but it's not enough improvment for the customer to notice a difference. Now if Chevy pops up with 350-376hp V6,....now you have something serious on your hands. That would be something I'd give a big thumbs up for....not just 11 hp.
I can't really figure out why people insist on comparing the V6 Camaro to the 370Z. Is it simply because they both have V6's? Because thats about the only thing they have in common. If you look at price an performance, it competes with the SS not the V6.
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Old 05-16-2011, 07:38 PM   #32
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I can't really figure out why people insist on comparing the V6 Camaro to the 370Z. Is it simply because they both have V6's? Because thats about the only thing they have in common. If you look at price an performance, it competes with the SS not the V6.
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Old 05-16-2011, 07:41 PM   #33
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Old 05-16-2011, 08:00 PM   #34
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I am sure they've tested and tested and tested.......... But I can't help but feel that the head is being asked to do more within a smaller space resulting in quicker fatique and thus........... UH OH!!
My thoughts exactly, more heat in the aluminum head where it was previously absorbed in the cast iron exhaust.
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Old 05-16-2011, 08:01 PM   #35
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aluminum isn't a great conductor of heat, though...it should stay relatively isolated to the exhaust area...
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Mmmm, yes nice turbo or 2 ^.~ lol.

They don't boost the hp numbers a lot so they can increase it every year, and they know what that engine will max out on already, before they have to change something to gain more for the consumer. Most people see "ohhh they added 11hp etc, amazing, must have /drool" Then 2 years or so down the road, another 10 or so off the same setup, with very minimal changes mostly. That person will either trade it in for the "better" model as they see it, or sell and go buy a new one.

Look at Vince that found 13 more hp just from a tune, that's amazing! A lot can be had from these motors, it's a new car, just wait another year and the market will filled with things.
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aluminum isn't a great conductor of heat, though...it should stay relatively isolated to the exhaust area...
Actualy, it conducts heat pretty well. Far better than cast iron does.
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How many people who buy the V6 actually mod their Camaro to increase performance?

No... not starting something. I'm genuinely interested. Of the 20 or so people I know who own the V6 Camaro... 1 has actually modded theirs to increase HP and such. A couple have changed exhausts. The other 16 or 17 haven't changed a thing. If this is typical of V6'ers then no wonder they went this way. The vast majority stick with stock or cosmetic/exhaust changes.
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Old 05-16-2011, 08:28 PM   #40
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How many people who buy the V6 actually mod their Camaro to increase performance?

No... not starting something. I'm genuinely interested. Of the 20 or so people I know who own the V6 Camaro... 1 has actually modded theirs to increase HP and such. A couple have changed exhausts. The other 16 or 17 haven't changed a thing. If this is typical of V6'ers then no wonder they went this way. The vast majority stick with stock or cosmetic/exhaust changes.
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I can't really figure out why people insist on comparing the V6 Camaro to the 370Z. Is it simply because they both have V6's? Because thats about the only thing they have in common. If you look at price an performance, it competes with the SS not the V6.
Well because it's that obvious, its a V6 engine, why else would I compare a v6based car vs another of the same type????????

Price vs performance? The 370z does cost some cash, but my first initial thoughts wouldn't be to compare it to an SS because stock vs stock there isn't anything to raise my eyebrow over, the SS wins. I understand your point about the 370z costing more than the V6 Camaro but I don't feel like that alone should stop a person from comparing two cars which are composed of the same type of engine, a nonturbo/nonsupercharged v6. Can I not compare "apples to apples" just because one apple cost more than the next???

I can see if this was a dodge SRT10 engine or something way outside it's class, but they're both v6 engines on different plateforms, why not. The Camaro is way heavier, the Z is light. If I'm not in the position to compare two v6 based engines what else am I suppose to compare the V6 Camaro's performance to? What other cars? A maxima? A dodge neon? A POS honda from 93? This is the same reason someone created the thread "what can the v6 Camaro beat anyway"?

All I'm saying is that I don't think Chevy nor it's fans should be going nuts simply because they found a way to add 11hp to it's V6 engine, sure it can be used as a selling point, but regarding performance 11hp is just not enough to put it ahead against the competition of it's class. Ford is releasing so many wonderful things for both the V6 Mustang and the 5.0 until it's ridiculous. Chevy really seems to be playing catch up. How many performance packages can we purchase from Chevy for the SS or V6???? lol.

Im not a Ford fan, but I admire they're business moves;they always seem to be offering more to the customers rather than just releasing a great car and leaving it high and dry until the next model shows up......(ZL1).
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sucks for anyone that wanted to put headers on their 2012 v6...but is a very interesting design, cant wait to see how it works in the real world.
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Why would anyone want headers if not needed? For the output of this engine this new design will probably out perform a set of long tube headers when you factor in the weight along with the flow. The channels in the new exhaust seem to be very smooth for even flow. Now a high output 6.2 headers would I am sure be more effective.
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