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Old 05-18-2011, 02:58 PM   #1
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Porter Cable 7424 Questions

I have heard many good things about the Porter Cable 7424 but I am just not sure it is for me, so I have a few questions. I have been detailing my car, clay bar, mirror glaze, then a coat of wax and would like an easier way to do it. I am disabled having one knee, both hips and both shoulders replaced. This makes it super tough to keep my Camaro as shinny as a Camaro should be. I have been considering a Porter Cable 7424, but also thinking of getting something smaller like the Groits Garage 3 inch Random Orbital Polisher. I know the smaller polisher would take longer, but it may be lighter and easier to hold with my bad arms. Never having used a polisher would it be easier to use a smaller one, are there advantages or disadvantages to using a smaller pad. Such as I read that with a bigger pad it is easier to keep flat and not get on an edge and burn the paint. On the other hand are you able to get around the grill with the bigger pad with no problem. Sorry if the questions sound stupid, but I just want to find an easier way to keep my car shinny. My arms just canít take polishing it by hand, but I also donít want to spend over 200.00 on something that I may not be able to use. Thanks in advance for your advice.
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Old 05-18-2011, 03:04 PM   #2
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Its hard to recommend based on what you said about your knee/hips/shoulders because machine polishing will net you great results compared to hand polishing and much faster... but its no walk in the park! Its a workout as I'm sure many guys here will testify. After I complete a full paint correction I know I hurt in places I didn't even know I had, so given the fact you might have some physical limitations it might not be for you.

On the other side if you were only going to use it to apply wax/sealants/glazes and not so much for polishing then that might be more reasonable. With those processes you're not working nearly as hard, going at lower speeds, and can almost operate the machine one handed. Polishing and paint correction are the parts that require some real work.

As far as pad sizes and burning paint, not a concern at all with any DA polisher... the machine oscillates not rotates. So theres no heat buildup, no fast removal of material, no concern for 'burn' or 'strike thru'.

Smaller pads won't make things easier, in reality would make for more work as you'll be covering less area with each pass which would mean more time invested overall. Save small pads for areas they're needed and use a regular sized pad for the bulk of the job.

EDIT: BTW, if you don't mind me asking - what required all that joint replacement? Sounds like you had a rough go at something!
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Old 05-18-2011, 03:30 PM   #3
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With reference to what Dylan is telling you about the amount of work involved he is 100% correct. Something to keep in mind is that a "full paint correction" is not something that should be required on a regular basis. The idea being is that you get the paint corrected once and maintain it properly (protection is part of this maintenance).

Maybe...let a professional detailer do the full correction then plan on using the DA as a tool in the maintenance of?

Yes, there is a lot to properly maintaining it but, that's not what the OP was originally about.
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Old 05-18-2011, 03:35 PM   #4
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I love my Porter Cable 7424! And I'm a 5'2" woman also with a knee replacement. I highly recommend it.
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Old 05-18-2011, 03:36 PM   #5
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I would like to give you some advice, but your physical condition and your limitations will play into your decision.

I have knee and shoulder issues as well and a good hour to two hour session with the PC does cause me stiffness and some pain the next day.

I own both a 3 inch orbital buffer and the PC. The PC is much heavier, perhaps 3 times as heavy as my 3 inch buffer, but it is a much better and faster way to detail your car. Also the PC gives you much more control over speeds, etc.

That being said, it is a big investment. I would suggest that you attempt to borrow or rent a PC before you buy. This may not be an option in your area. The PC weighs around 6 pounds. You will be hefting that weight and putting additional stress on your body because you will have to apply pressure as you use the PC.

If you have a 6 lb weight, you might want to wrap it with a towel and try buffing your kitchen countertop for awhile. Than might also give you an idea.

Hope this helps.
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If you have a 6 lb weight, you might want to wrap it with a towel and try buffing your kitchen countertop for awhile. Than might also give you an idea.
Thats actually a darn good suggestion! Good thinking.
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Thats actually a darn good suggestion! Good thinking.
Thanks Dylan. BTW I'll be putting in an order for a couple of your new green pads shortly. Best thing since sliced bread.
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Thanks for all the comments. I do plan on only using the buffer to apply paint sealant or polish and wax. Because it is not even easy to wash it, my wife and I have agreed that no matter what the event is that we are going to if there is rain in the forcast, the Camaro stays in the garage. Now if we take off someplace and we find out it is going to rain, no problem it gets wet. Just not going to take it out and get dirty when I don't have to.
From everyones comments I am leaning towards getting the smaller polisher. I know it will take more time, but that is not a problem. Right now I am putting on a coat of mirror glaze, I apply it to a small area of the car and buff it out. Then I take a little break to rest and sit back and look at what a beautiful car I have. It takes me probably 4 or 5 times longer to get it done, but I get it done. I do plan on maintaing the Camaro so I will never have to do a serious buff job.

p.s. Dylan, I was born with some birth defects and a disease that wears out my major joints. I had major surgery each knee, one knee the summer after 6th grade, the other knee the summer after 7th grade. I have lost count of the surgeries, but it is somewhere around 25. My right knee and both hips have been replaced twice, and each shoulder has been replaced. My elbows are in super bad shape and cause a lot of pain. As I get older it is getting harder to do things that I used to do. When I was younger I had a Blue 1978 Camaro Z-28, a Dark Forest Green 1979 Corvette L-82 and a Red 1993 Trans Am and I always got comments from people that my cars were always so clean and shinny. Of all the cars I have owned I love this Camaro more then all the others combined. And old habits are hard to break, I want my Camaro to sparkle. When I am done with what I am doing I will post some pictures. I will warn you all now, even seeing the pictures here on Camaro5 you may need to wear sunglasses.

Thanks All, If I see ya on the road. I will wave.....
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