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Old 05-18-2011, 07:21 PM   #1
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Question nitrous on v6 camaro?

A buddy of mine told me I should look into getting a nitrous set up on my v6 camaro. He said there is one made by ZEN. I am concerned that this could kill the engine. Whats ur take..?
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Old 05-18-2011, 07:36 PM   #2
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Sounds like you need to do a LOT more research. You can destroy any engine with nitrous. It's all about how greedy you get and how well you have it tuned.
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A buddy of mine told me I should look into getting a nitrous set up on my v6 camaro. He said there is one made by ZEN. I am concerned that this could kill the engine. Whats ur take..?
Nitrous is cheating, IMO. To me it's no different than an athlete using roids.
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BB11...did you happen to catch the HOMEPAGE story about the V6 that dipped into the 11 second quarter mile using nitrous?? That is amazing. You need to do some research in the V6 Forced Induction section. There are topics on the subject.

The V6 Camaro can take a 50 to 75 shot without a need for a tune. Once you get into the 100+ shot it is probably a good idea for a tune, although I'm pretty certain the member here who ran the fast 1/4 mile time didn't even have a tune on his car. Just a few basic mods and better traction.

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Nitrous is cheating, IMO. To me it's no different than an athlete using roids.
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Lots of people feel that way, but really the only reason you feel it is cheating is because it is so cheap/easy to do. No different than throwing on a supercharger/turbo on any car to make it much more powerful, except it is not expensive.

So what about the few super modified Camaros here that are running into the 8 and 9 second quarter miles with their huge list of mods AND a shot of nitrous? Was that cheating?

It is a matter of opinion.
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Old 05-18-2011, 07:53 PM   #5
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After voiding your warranty and paying for burned pistons, it would be cheaper to trade up to a SS.
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After voiding you warranty and paying for burned pistons, it would be cheaper to trade up to a SS.
lol, sure didn't take long to get the "upgrade to an SS" quote lol.
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Old 05-18-2011, 08:13 PM   #7
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After voiding your warranty and paying for burned pistons, it would be cheaper to trade up to a SS.

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Old 05-18-2011, 08:19 PM   #8
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If you want faster why not upgrade to a SS. Your just going to want faster and faster so might as well start with a baseline V8 to build from.
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Is your buddies car faster than yours?
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If you want faster why not upgrade to a SS. Your just going to want faster and faster so might as well start with a baseline V8 to build from.
Nitrous can be had for pretty cheap.

And a V6 just ran 11.9 using nitrous and spent WELL below the cost of an SS, much less a sub 12 second SS.
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Nitrous can be had for pretty cheap.

And a V6 just ran 11.9 using nitrous and spent WELL below the cost of an SS, much less a sub 12 second SS.
I'm not talking cost effective I'm talking about have a V8 starting point to mod from if speed is what he's after.
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I'm not talking cost effective I'm talking about have a V8 starting point to mod from if speed is what he's after.
I was just posing a possible answer to your question. That would be a good reason why. Because someone may not be able to afford to buy a V8 and especially buy it and mod it up.

Not sure what the OP is after but my advice would be to not just throw some spray in and go.

Better get some expert opinions and even facts.

I know it's been around forever, but I heard it from CamaroSpike;

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Pick 2. But it's the one you leave on the table that is the key.
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...but really the only reason you feel it is cheating is because it is so cheap/easy to do.
I feel it's cheating because a car with nitrous can pretty much take any car that doesn't have nitrous.

Have nitrous...will win.

Plus it's just soooo Fast and Furious.
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Old 05-18-2011, 09:10 PM   #14
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Wow..Thanks guys for ur input. I just wanted to get an idea on what nitrous can do and not....I am looking to start doing upgrades on this new toy so I will be asking many questions.
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I feel it's cheating because a car with nitrous can pretty much take any car that doesn't have nitrous.

Have nitrous...will win.

Plus it's just soooo Fast and Furious.
N20 has been out long before Fast and Furious. The applications have grown much better with delivery, safety, etc. You don't even get pure N20 anymore, they mix it with sulfur because people were abusing it... It is something like 100ppm. It's not medical grade by any means, but its still N20.

Just because you have nitrous doesn't mean you will win. I've beaten my share of nitrous driven cars in my 89 rx7, and won, it wasn't turbo'd either.
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Old 05-18-2011, 09:50 PM   #16
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I feel it's cheating because a car with nitrous can pretty much take any car that doesn't have nitrous.

Have nitrous...will win.

Plus it's just soooo Fast and Furious.
Lol... superchargers, turbochargers, and nitrous all do the same thing, increase cylinder pressure and allow you to burn more fuel. Period.
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Old 05-18-2011, 09:53 PM   #17
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People just have bad vibe with nitrous. If you know what you are doing it's extremely safe and doesn't have the constant strain on the motor that a s/c produces. Don't go crazy and drop a 200 shot in a stock block, but a 100-150 shot will be fine with a good tune.

oh wait I was thinking about the LSx platform, not sure what an LLT would hold in stock form... 75? 100?
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I believe the 11.9sec v6 is running 125shot without a tune atm. I could be wrong about the tune.
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Not everyone wants or can afford a v8.... Nitrous is sick and will be going in my v6, its just lower on the list of mods for me... If you do it right and read up on it, the v6 can definitely handle it without breaking.. but ya it does void the warranty so it wont be going on my car for awhile since i havent even gotten to 1000 miles yet
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N20 has been out long before Fast and Furious. The applications have grown much better with delivery, safety, etc. You don't even get pure N20 anymore, they mix it with sulfur because people were abusing it... It is something like 100ppm. It's not medical grade by any means, but its still N20.

Just because you have nitrous doesn't mean you will win. I've beaten my share of nitrous driven cars in my 89 rx7, and won, it wasn't turbo'd either.
Oh, I know it's been around long before F&F...it's just that when I hear "NOS" I think "Idiot kid driving a ricer." I know that's not always the case, but there ya have it.
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I believe the 11.9sec v6 is running 125shot without a tune atm. I could be wrong about the tune.
Correct. No tune
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No matter what you do nitrous will always hurt an engine. If you go nitrous do a wet shot.
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i have always figured if i was going to blow a motor, i wanted to do it the old fashioned way...foot on the floor, not a thumb on a button...jmo
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No matter what you do nitrous will always hurt an engine. If you go nitrous do a wet shot.
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Nitrous is probably more reliable than going f/i if you know what you're doing..


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There's a handful of us v6ers with nitrous. Check out the v6 f/i section to find good info and to ask question, so you don't get a bunch of spam about blowing your motor up or "should get a v8" garbage.

Also check out the v6 bolt-on section for everything else (exhaust, intakes, headers, etc).
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