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Old 10-05-2011, 06:39 PM   #1176
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I'm no expert and my names not pete. . .but I like playing this game.



lighter weight, 540 hp. . .well tuned suspension for the course and a better driver?
I'm thinking the power would have to be well above that to beat the Z06. Perhaps 600 hp and 3600 lbs?

The Corvette would still (probably) hold a handling advantage since its smaller & lighter so a Camaro would need to hold a decent advantage in power to weight to beat it around a track.
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:06 AM   #1177
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I'm thinking the power would have to be well above that to beat the Z06. Perhaps 600 hp and 3600 lbs?

The Corvette would still (probably) hold a handling advantage since its smaller & lighter so a Camaro would need to hold a decent advantage in power to weight to beat it around a track.
beat a z06? I was referring to the 7:41 lap time. I don't expect a stock z28 to beat a current or recent z06. but to beat a 7:41 I could see what I wrote.
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:33 AM   #1178
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So wait?! Is someone making a car that I can buy that will be like a production Z28 and less than the Zl1???
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:55 AM   #1179
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So wait?! Is someone making a car that I can buy that will be like a production Z28 and less than the Zl1???
Yes someone is making a Camaro that will be more like the heritage of the Z/28. As for price there is only one person around here that could guesstimate that....

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Old 10-06-2011, 09:00 AM   #1180
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Yes, I have a lot of Petes products on my car and this is what has got me intrigued.

BUT, is this a one off car or can anyone basically buy this?
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Old 10-06-2011, 09:46 AM   #1182
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ohhhhhhhhhhhh, well now im torn since im in line and will be ordering my Zl1 Oct 29th.

When is this top secret car being revealed? I read at Sema but I dont know when that is...
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:06 AM   #1183
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ohhhhhhhhhhhh, well now im torn since im in line and will be ordering my Zl1 Oct 29th.

When is this top secret car being revealed? I read at Sema but I dont know when that is...
Nov 1 - Nov 4, 2011

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Old 10-06-2011, 01:00 PM   #1184
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beat a z06? I was referring to the 7:41 lap time. I don't expect a stock z28 to beat a current or recent z06. but to beat a 7:41 I could see what I wrote.
When I made that post I was unaware of the ZL1s 'ring time. But I did remember the Z06 posting a 7:41 or 7:42 when it debuted. So when I saw a question about beating a 7:41 I assumed it was in reference to the Z06. I now retract my earlier post
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:33 PM   #1185
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So wait?! Is someone making a car that I can buy that will be like a production Z28 and less than the Zl1???
It will be MORE powerful, MORE capable and MORE expensive than the ZL1 if I read Pete correctly.
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:37 PM   #1186
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Take a look at this. Sounds like Ford isn't going to let the ZL1 be top dog very long.

http://www.stangtv.com/news/uaw-ford...-5-8-liter-v8/
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:08 PM   #1187
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Pete, What is it going to take to make the Z/28 beat a 7:41 at the ring?
Pedders Suspension A 7:41 is an outstanding time and right about what we would have expected. Lower it an inch, add more front rubber and the ZL1 is seconds faster. But we want to be 22 seconds faster

ZR1 7:19.63 General Motors conducted test,[13] base specification car with optional super-slick track DOT competition tires (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Zero Pressure)[14] and non-stock safety equipment including a roll cage equipped, video confirmed.
Z06 7:22.68 General Motors conducted test,[16] base specification car with optional super-slick track DOT competition tires (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Zero Pressure) and Z07 package
ZL1 7:41.27
Development 5th Gen 8:20

ZR1 638
ZL1 580
Z06 505
5th Gen 420

The ZL1 is an AWESOME machine. The ZR1 AWESOMENESS on Steroids To come close to a ZR1 I want more front rubber, more power, more brakes, a lower CG, more aggressive sways, Supercar coilovers and full Pedders bushes. I want it lighter and better balanced. The power has to be all motor. Normally apsirated power and eye popping torque.say 681 HP @ 6800 RPM, and 588 LB / FT @ 5600 RPM on the engine dyno would be nice if I were just pulling numbers out of the air
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Pedders Suspension A 7:41 is an outstanding time and right about what we would have expected. Lower it an inch, add more front rubber and the ZL1 is seconds faster. But we want to be 22 seconds faster

ZR1 7:19.63 General Motors conducted test,[13] base specification car with optional super-slick track DOT competition tires (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Zero Pressure)[14] and non-stock safety equipment including a roll cage equipped, video confirmed.
Z06 7:22.68 General Motors conducted test,[16] base specification car with optional super-slick track DOT competition tires (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Zero Pressure) and Z07 package
ZL1 7:41.27
Development 5th Gen 8:20

ZR1 638
ZL1 580
Z06 505
5th Gen 420

The ZL1 is an AWESOME machine. The ZR1 AWESOMENESS on Steroids To come close to a ZR1 I want more front rubber, more power, more brakes, a lower CG, more aggressive sways, Supercar coilovers and full Pedders bushes. I want it lighter and better balanced. The power has to be all motor. Normally apsirated power and eye popping torque.say 681 HP @ 6800 RPM, and 588 LB / FT @ 5600 RPM on the engine dyno would be nice if I were just pulling numbers out of the air
I take that last bit was a hint.....
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:15 PM   #1189
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JP is there going to be a build thread or do we have to wait for SEMA for everything.....
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Take a look at this. Sounds like Ford isn't going to let the ZL1 be top dog very long.

http://www.stangtv.com/news/uaw-ford...-5-8-liter-v8/
Not worried. Adding power doesn't mean a thing if the car can't hook
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Old 10-06-2011, 06:06 PM   #1191
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JP is there going to be a build thread or do we have to wait for SEMA for everything.....
SEMA is the answer that no one wants to hear :(
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Take a look at this. Sounds like Ford isn't going to let the ZL1 be top dog very long.

http://www.stangtv.com/news/uaw-ford...-5-8-liter-v8/
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SEMA is the answer that no one wants to hear :(
But the correct one....

I will sit back and wait with everyone else... gonna need some and some . alright Im set!
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I take that last bit was a hint.....
What are they going to do? Fire me? These are the real numbers for the LS7 that will power the yet to be named Dream Z.

681 HP @ 6800 RPM
588 LB / FT @ 5600 RPM

All motor, no blower weight, no FI heat soak, smooth throttle response.
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What are they going to do? Fire me? These are the real numbers for the LS7 that will power the yet to be named Dream Z.

681 HP @ 6800 RPM
588 LB / FT @ 5600 RPM

All motor, no blower weight, no FI heat soak, smooth throttle response.
Pete those numbers are insane.... and I love it!

Im sure this car will be out of my reach but it is going to be incredibly inspiring!
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What are they going to do? Fire me? These are the real numbers for the LS7 that will power the yet to be named Dream Z.

681 HP @ 6800 RPM
588 LB / FT @ 5600 RPM

All motor, no blower weight, no FI heat soak, smooth throttle response.
Is that 681 HP at the Wheels or Crank ?
Eithor way, it's very cool. One of the LS7 Conversions that sticks in my mind that I saw in person was 585HP at the wheels. I think the Pedders car is clearly moving up to the next level from what I have seen.
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Is this the mythical (no longer) 100k Camaro? Sounds like it will be a beast!
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Is that 681 HP at the Wheels or Crank ?
Eithor way, it's very cool. One of the LS7 Conversions that sticks in my mind that I saw in person was 585HP at the wheels. I think the Pedders car is clearly moving up to the next level from what I have seen.
We should be close to 620 at the rears. The TQ is what I am really excited about. It comes on low , fat and flat. That will make the Project Z predictable. Predictable is fast. It will be a driver's dream.
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Is this the mythical (no longer) 100k Camaro? Sounds like it will be a beast!
I don't know about mythical. Our intention is to make it legendary. It will carry a Z on it so anything less would be unacceptable.
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What are they going to do? Fire me? These are the real numbers for the LS7 that will power the yet to be named Dream Z.

681 HP @ 6800 RPM
588 LB / FT @ 5600 RPM

All motor, no blower weight, no FI heat soak, smooth throttle response.
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