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Old 08-05-2011, 04:08 PM   #743
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It keeps getting pricier...
Car and Driver says $55K+ for the ZL1. I can hear the whining already. It's gonna make even more sense for a $40K+ HP Camaro. What do ya' think?
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It keeps getting pricier...
Car and Driver says $55K+ for the ZL1. I can hear the whining already. It's gonna make even more sense for a $40K+ HP Camaro. What do ya' think?
1) ZL1 @ $55+, loaded, not surprizing. It's more car than a current GT 500...for "similar" dough...

2) 1SS + LS7 + ZL1 HD Driveline/Brakes + "enhanced" FE4 + Extracter Hood...figure on BOSS LS money...$45-47K (from GM)...and I'll take mine in double Black, thank you...
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Old 08-05-2011, 07:11 PM   #745
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Mmmmmmm double black...
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Old 08-05-2011, 09:17 PM   #746
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Mmmmmmm double black...
I'll take mine red with white stripes.
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Old 08-05-2011, 09:27 PM   #747
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Something like a wave trac would be great, but we are trying to be reasonable with costs / price. For a raod coursse car the tranny will hold up. We would need to replace the lube in the half-shaft joints with a higher temp lube.

The big bucks items are:
LS7
Wheels
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They add up fast.
...wellllll, add it up......fast...!
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Here we go, getting interesting again...
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Old 08-05-2011, 09:32 PM   #748
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I am very interested......

I want # 1
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Old 08-05-2011, 09:47 PM   #749
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I am very interested......

I want # 1
Sorry Mac, I believe the numbers 1, 28, and 427 are taken.

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Old 08-06-2011, 07:50 AM   #750
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I am very interested......

I want # 1
Mac, that one slipped away on ya when you were over at "your" site discussin' busses 'n trams 'n things with Fen...

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See, ya gotta stay FOCUSED! (No offense to our Ford Fans...)

But you can ride shotgun...and I promise that'll be a "story" you'll wanna share with your grandkids!
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:27 AM   #751
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I just talked with Jim Perkins, who informs me Rick Hendrick has no desire to own LS7-powered Z/28 Number 1...so I guess that one can be mine...

What...maybe I spoke to MARLIN Perkins, talkin' 'bout JIMMY HENDRIX...no, that can't be...can it?!
Sorry but that is for the Z/28..... I am talking about the L28 mentioned above.
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:58 PM   #752
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Lowdown this link applies to an earlier post by you.
It deals with OEM upgrades. I thought you might like it.

http://www.streetlegaltv.com/news/ch...-for-srt-cars/
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Old 08-07-2011, 11:22 AM   #753
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Sorry but that is for the Z/28..... I am talking about the L28 mentioned above.
You'll likely need to arm-wrestle Ken Lingenfelter for that one...but, as they say, "IF The Price Is Right!" And, IIRC, the Silver LPE car from SEMA '09 was referred to as "L28", no?

http://www.lingenfelter.com/news/201...owerblock-tv-s

And then there was this one, from camaro5fest II...

http://www.lingenfelter.com/LPEforum...read.php?t=849

It appears as if the "L28" is the Styling Package, with free-form motor-vation.

I suspect the aftermarket price of an LS7'd Camaro would quickly approach ZL1 (or more!) money..."not that there's anything wrong with that". Except for all those folks who think we're suckin' wind for a mid-$40s ZEE, a mid-$50s+ ELLE would certainly be less voluminous...but at least you could order one "today"...
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I suspect the aftermarket price of an LS7'd Camaro would quickly approach ZL1 (or more!) money..."not that there's anything wrong with that". Except for all those folks who think we're suckin' wind for a mid-$40s ZEE, a mid-$50s+ ELLE would certainly be less voluminous...but at least you could order one "today"...
...but, it looks soooooo gosh darn nasty doesn't it?
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See what happens when #3 works hard? We decide to build it on our own.
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The "problem" of an LS3 "takeout" vs. an LS7 "crate transplant", aftermarket-wise, is the conversion cost is = LS3 value...and the same applied to the HD Tremec...and suspension/driveline/brake upgrades. There's at least 30 hours labor, too, for the "whole deal".

So, to a Base 1SS, add ALL the above...and pretty quickly (no pun intended) you zip right through $50Gs and climb further with wheels/tires/hood...

Done in-house by GM, you would ONLY be faced with the incremental piece-cost differentials...developmental expenses...and added profit$...which, in potential volumes, should be well-South of $50...

As I mentioned earlier, a proper aftermarket LS7, driveline-upgraded "ZEE" would tally out at ZL1 number$...for fun...and, at those numbers, the market would diminish considerably. That's why you see the LS9 used by the "famous" tuner-folk...or a Maggie'd LS3... ROI...

The only reasonable aftermarket "ZEE" n/a alternative that would make sense, $-wise, would be a CNC'd/billet/forged/stroked LS3...and to hell with CAFE...and then spec what trans/driveline/brake/wheel features you prefer. But you'll still be deep into the $40s...with "aftermarket" warranties...
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