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Old 05-28-2011, 09:15 PM   #1
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Smile Adam's Clay Bar - Made In Japan

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So I finally decided to use the Porter Cable on my car today. I started off with a wash and then I decided to use the clay bar. I recently bought about $200 worth of products from Adam's. I'm kind of confused though. Adam's is very strict about using only Made in the U.S.A. products and I respect them for that, but upon opening my clay bar today it was wrapped in a clear plastic wrapper that says Made in Japan. I kept the wrapper for all intensive purposes, but not sure what happened here with their strict Made in the U.S.A. policy.

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Old 05-28-2011, 09:18 PM   #2
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I'll bet the clay bar manufacturer switched it up on them and they weren't aware of it yet. Looks like they are going to have to do some digging to find out what happened.
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I'll bet the clay bar manufacturer switched it up on them and they weren't aware of it yet. Looks like they are going to have to do some digging to find out what happened.
This same thing happened with their foam gun manufacturer, switched to Taiwan. Give it til Monday and I bet they send out an apology letter and drop the product. They're pretty good when of comes to their parts being made in the USA
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I want to make it perfectly clear that I really don't care where the product is made, but they are very strict about what they sell. If it was made at the north pole I would still use it, lol. I have purchased a lot of clay bars before and this one has to be the nicest I've ever used or had. I'm sure Adam's is not going to like this. I would have let it in the wrapper, but I really had to use it.

P.S. And the funny thing is, the Made In Japan is written down the seam where you open it and it was written like 3 times!
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Yeah, I wasn't aware of their made in USA policy until I saw that Foam Gun thread. They continue to impress me... I hope they are able to find a suitable alternative to this one.

Foreign made stuff isn't a deal breaker for me either as long as it's good stuff, but I do like the fact that they have a Made in USA policy.
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Unfortunately auto magic owns the patent on all clay sold in the USA until the end of this year. If you buy clay from meguiars, mothers, turtle wax ect. They are all getting it from automagic until the end of the year when other manufactures can get into the market. It's an integral part of the detailing process or I know for a fact Adam would not sell it.

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there is a patent on clay so there is only one source at the moment which means there arent any US options. I believe the patent expires this year and I am sure Adams will have a US made claybar
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I like US made stuff, but Japan usually makes some pretty decent stuff (excluding Hondas, of course ).
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The plastic wrap is made in Japan. Lol jk I don't know it beats china though.
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This same thing happened with their foam gun manufacturer, switched to Taiwan. Give it til Monday and I bet they send out an apology letter and drop the product. They're pretty good when of comes to their parts being made in the USA
REALY , so they will send him one new bar but making sure that the plastic wrap says made in USA , are they doing this for how long ???
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Im sure something will be changed / resolved as they are proud about all their products being 100% USA Made.

It could very likely be that the bar was made in the USA but the plastic that which it is wrapped in changed and was made in a different country?

In the end they'll be sure to make it right by either changing the supplier or .. well something.

With it being a holiday weekend I say give it until Tuesday / Wednesday. Also it would be great to contact and inform them of this!



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REALY , so they will send him one new bar but making sure that the plastic wrap says made in USA , are they doing this for how long ???
I'm sorry... in English?
Im sure if the OP asked to have it replaced they would gladly do so, or refund 110% of the money for it. They have amazing customer service.
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Really? Who gives a *hit where it's made? There stuff could be made by Fidel Castro for all I care. Adam's products are the JAM!!!
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That header wasn't made in the USA?!? It must be crap....


Oops, I mean clay....
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Really? Who gives a *hit where it's made? There stuff could be made by Fidel Castro for all I care. Adam's products are the JAM!!!
Again most of us don't care where their stuff is made. Adam's cares where their products are made.
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Funny, adams clay is the only thing I would buy from them, probably because I know they don't make it.
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Hello All,

So I finally decided to use the Porter Cable on my car today. I started off with a wash and then I decided to use the clay bar. I recently bought about $200 worth of products from Adam's. I'm kind of confused though. Adam's is very strict about using only Made in the U.S.A. products and I respect them for that, but upon opening my clay bar today it was wrapped in a clear plastic wrapper that says Made in Japan. I kept the wrapper for all intensive purposes, but not sure what happened here with their strict Made in the U.S.A. policy.

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Yeah I noticed that too hahaha, I thought it was funny because of what the container says maybe the wrapper was made in Japan lol
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From a announcement post made to our forum just about a year ago:

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As all of you know, all of us at Adam's Polishes strive very hard to keep our commitment to American workers and the products they produce intact. This commitment is often times to our own detriment as it increases overhead or greatly limits our ability to stock all the items we would like to carry. Detailing bags, foam guns, and other items simply aren't available here in the US and rather than compromise our morals to make a buck, we choose not to stock these items.

Its no secret that the automagic corporation holds an exclusive patent over the manufacturing rights of all clay sold within the United States, and to that end we're extremely limited on our choices... well... to be honest, we don't have a choice. Its their bar, or no bar. During the recent change to our clay (blue was discontinued, gray replaced it) it came to our attention that the clay we were selling was no longer a product produced here in the states, but in Japan. While this isn't the worst scenario, it still flies in the face of our commitment to the American worker.

Due to the lack of choices we are forced continue to sell these bars, wrapped in their "Made In Japan" plastic, but at least take some solace in knowing that the jar which we ship the product in is still proudly made here in the USA and when the clay patent expires in 2011 we look forward to selling a bar that matches! This is the best bar currently available and we still continue to offer the largest chunk of clay in the business at 200 grams. We overwhelmingly feel that honesty is the best policy and want to be upfront with our customers about the products they are buying and where they are made.

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Full disclosure guys, we're not pulling fast ones here. For the record Flex's are made in Germany, PC's are now assembled in Mexico by Delta (yes the faucet people) and our towels come from Korea. We've never lied or misrepresented these facts, there are certain areas we have to make concessions for legal reasons or the fact no other option exists. On something like the foam gun, its not a must-have, its a nice-to-have and with only 2 options, both of which being made in China we simply don't/won't carry one.

When things are forced to be procured from outside the US we have a few criteria:
  • The country must support fair labor standards and pay 'living wages' (this means no China).
  • The company we're doing business with must provide safe, healthy working conditions for its employees. We don't support slave or child labor.

Now... there are other companies that claim MADE IN THE USA out there that won't be so forthcoming with information like this. Some only blend chemical here, then everything else they sell including the bottles the chemical is packaged in, the sprayer on top, even the packing material they ship with comes from China. THAT is a misrepresentation of the US flag... our bottles, sprayers, labels, caps, boxes, packing material, and all of our other accessories are made in the USA.

If you're ever curious about where an item is sourced from just ask us... we're not here to lie about anything.
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"Detailing Clay Bars were invented in Japan in the late 1980s to remove overspray and minor flaws from freshly painted vehicles at body shops"

http://www.davesautodetail.com/clay.html

Sometimes ya just gotta go with the original.
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"Detailing Clay Bars were invented in Japan in the late 1980s to remove overspray and minor flaws from freshly painted vehicles at body shops"

http://www.davesautodetail.com/clay.html

Sometimes ya just gotta go with the original.
Taking that a step further, clay shares a lot in common with Silly Putty... the inspiration (reportedly) for detail clay was the fact that silly putty will take newspaper transfers up so easily and if it will do that it should lift things bonded from paint right?

Those of us old enough to remember used to spend sunday mornings smashing a piece of silly putty flat onto the comic pages, then taking the image transfer and stretching the image.

I haven't tried to clay my vehicles with silly putty, but I'd imagine it actually might make a half decent substitute for clay LOL
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