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araaaas · 05-29-2011, 07:17 AM

in my opinion that would be really cool

BoostedX2 · 05-29-2011, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by araaaas

in my opinion that would be really cool

Blue Menace · 05-29-2011, 07:33 AM

My fiance has one on her Challenger SRT8. Yes, they are very cool.

Robbie1227 · 05-29-2011, 07:37 AM

Yes, I agree 100%.
We shouldn't need keys, just a proximity sensor. My 2010 Nissan Armada has a small key fob that you keep in your pocket and you never need to pull it out. Just push start and off you go!
Keys are outdated.

formare · 05-29-2011, 07:39 AM

A good start would be to have the key hole up on the dash where it belongs rather than on the column. Then we could get a push to start insert - just like the dodge boys have. On the dash and everything. Don't like the push to start - remove the "button" insert and presto a key hole for ya...

dannkimmel · 05-29-2011, 08:23 AM

seems pointless to me....if i still have to carry anything(key fob)
then whats the point...i would prefer just a regular good ole key
that would fit on my key chain with all the other keys...

Russell James · 05-29-2011, 08:26 AM

Do not want. Had the passive entry/push button on a Vette and had multiple problems. Adds too much complexity and potential for problems both with the car and user error. Corvettes have been plagued with dead battery problems for years and a complex entry/start system just adds to those problems.

Plus the hassle of what do you do with the keys while your driving. Put them in a bag that you forget in the car. Passenger walks away with the keys while you drive off with no way to restart the car after shut off. Keys wind up in golf bag in the back. Loan the car to someone, then expect a half a dozen calls throughout the day asking how to...

Give me a key, key fob, key cylinder in the door, manual door handle.... and I'm happy. All that high tech entry and start crap is just way too problematic.

Shurenuff · 05-29-2011, 08:43 AM

I honestly don't care either way. Would be a cool feature, but I definitely don't "have to have it".

You can think of it as using a key goes with some of the other retro themes of the car

mondain · 05-29-2011, 09:02 AM

I want it.

I think the pushbutton start is kinda cool, even knowing all the heeadaches that can come along with it.

Just as long as it doesn't suck like the BMW version, where you still have to stick the key into the dash AND push a button -- wtf is the point?! Use real RF technology and let me keep the fob in my pocket.

It's also good for automatically locking your doors when you walk away, or unlocking them when you get really close. Also you can identify driver preset settings (seat position, mirrors, etc) based on the RF fob identification.

Does it drain battery? Yes, a tiny bit, because the car is constantly sending out a heartbeat to identify the fobs, even while parked and turned off. There should be ways to disable this via the DIC or MyLink for when you park the car for the winter. For the driving season, where you might be driving every day/other day/few days, it will never drain the battery.

Blue Menace · 05-29-2011, 09:41 AM

There are gonna be headaches on both sides. I was closing my car door yesterday and scratched the trim because I had the keys in my hand, facing out. Duh!!

Shurenuff · 05-29-2011, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue Menace

There are gonna be headaches on both sides. I was closing my car door yesterday and scratched the trim because I had the keys in my hand, facing out. Duh!!

That sucks, but couldn't this same scenario happen with other objects in the hand or rings if one is not careful? I don't really see how you can blame the lack of push button start for this type of accident.

lbls1 · 05-29-2011, 10:03 AM

No!

oldfriend · 05-29-2011, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by araaaas

in my opinion that would be really cool

What's so cool about that ????when you already have the fob that click at any time you want ???

Z_Rocks · 05-29-2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Russell James

Do not want. Had the passive entry/push button on a Vette and had multiple problems. Adds too much complexity and potential for problems both with the car and user error. Corvettes have been plagued with dead battery problems for years and a complex entry/start system just adds to those problems.

Plus the hassle of what do you do with the keys while your driving. Put them in a bag that you forget in the car. Passenger walks away with the keys while you drive off with no way to restart the car after shut off. Keys wind up in golf bag in the back. Loan the car to someone, then expect a half a dozen calls throughout the day asking how to...

Give me a key, key fob, key cylinder in the door, manual door handle.... and I'm happy. All that high tech entry and start crap is just way too problematic.

Ron66Vette&10SS · 05-29-2011, 11:07 AM

If you're talking about the keyless remote like on the Corvette......SURE!

That would be kind of cool, but not necessary. If it's not already designed into it though, I would think it's too late.

vart · 05-29-2011, 11:13 AM

No way. We have a Nissan Murano with a push start and I hate it. I think what I hate most is that when I drop off my wife to shop and I wait in the car, I have to turn the whole car off and then push the button again to get to the auxiliary position to listen to the radio. I know it's only about 12 seconds without music, but it irks the hell out of me. A good "old fashioned" key just has to be turned back a nothch to do it. Also what was mentioned earlier about her going into the store and then after I park and turn off the car I can't re-start it because she has the keys in her purse.

Qdiesel · 05-29-2011, 11:26 AM

How about just give me the car....I'll start it like Fred Flintstone if I have to, lol.

MikeOD · 05-29-2011, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie1227

Yes, I agree 100%.
We shouldn't need keys, just a proximity sensor. My 2010 Nissan Armada has a small key fob that you keep in your pocket and you never need to pull it out. Just push start and off you go!
Keys are outdated.

Until you set the proximity thing down in the garage next to the car one day, and forget, then hop in the car, hit start, drive somewhere, shut it down, and you're stranded...

The stock key is perfectly acceptable to me...I actually wish it were more old fashioned (read less expensive to replace, and also less likely to break than these VW/Audi switchblade things).

Jefe's SS · 05-29-2011, 02:09 PM

Yes. Have it in my Lexus and like it very much. The Lexus system works very well.

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Originally Posted by vart

No way. We have a Nissan Murano with a push start and I hate it. I think what I hate most is that when I drop off my wife to shop and I wait in the car, I have to turn the whole car off and then push the button again to get to the auxiliary position to listen to the radio. I know it's only about 12 seconds without music, but it irks the hell out of me. A good "old fashioned" key just has to be turned back a nothch to do it. Also what was mentioned earlier about her going into the store and then after I park and turn off the car I can't re-start it because she has the keys in her purse.

Try leaving the transmission in N rather than P. If it's an auto. This is what I have to do in my Lexus to keep the acc on while turning the engine off.

Sevn86 · 05-29-2011, 02:33 PM

We have push button start in our 2011 camry and we love it! When ever we get in our other car I reach to push the button and then realize we don't have that feature in our jeep. I don't have to take the keys out to unlock the car or start it and that what I like the most about it!

Qdiesel · 05-29-2011, 03:06 PM

[QUOTE=MikeOD;3277124]Until you set the proximity thing down in the garage next to the car one day, and forget, then hop in the car, hit start, drive somewhere, shut it down, and you're stranded...

QUOTE]

It won't do that. Ours will not start unless its in the car, plus it will beep to holy heaven if you try to move without it.

Z_Rocks · 05-29-2011, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeOD

Until you set the proximity thing down in the garage next to the car one day, and forget, then hop in the car, hit start, drive somewhere, shut it down, and you're stranded...

This exactly happened to a friend of mine. He was working on his car in the garage. The key was on the table. He needed to go to AutoDiscount to get something. Goes there, shuts the engine and no way to get back. The dealer then changed something that the car would not turn off, if the key was not around.

Qdiesel · 05-29-2011, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Z_Rocks

This exactly happened to a friend of mine. He was working on his car in the garage. The key was on the table. He needed to go to AutoDiscount to get something. Goes there, shuts the engine and no way to get back. The dealer then changed something that the car would not turn off, if the key was not around.

Wow. What kind of car was it, if I may ask? Our Infiniti and even our Caddy wouldn't do that....the range on theirs must be further.

Z_Rocks · 05-29-2011, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Qdiesel

Wow. What kind of car was it, if I may ask? Our Infiniti and even our Caddy wouldn't do that....the range on theirs must be further.

When that happened, he had three cars (his a BMW 650, His wife's an Audi Q7 and his son BMW 135). I'm not sure which one, but I guess it was the 135 that he was working on.
His new Jag XK doesn't even start, if the key is more than 3 feet away, but I wonder what would happen if you start the car and take the key away from the car.
I'm not too crazy about keyless!

Rock-It Man · 05-29-2011, 05:07 PM

Engine start button?

Who cares!

05-29-2011, 07:17 AM	#1
araaaas Drives: Bmw 320 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 11	Do you want a engine start button ? in my opinion that would be really cool

05-29-2011, 07:37 AM	#4
Robbie1227 Drives: 2010 Summit 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 201	Yes, I agree 100%. We shouldn't need keys, just a proximity sensor. My 2010 Nissan Armada has a small key fob that you keep in your pocket and you never need to pull it out. Just push start and off you go! Keys are outdated. __________________ 2010 Summit White Camaro 2SS/RS M6 LS3 Pfadt Sway Bars and Lowering Springs Pedders Quiet OE adjustable end links CAI with ADM Race Scoop Corsa Cat Back Exhaust Kooks 1 7/8" Jet Hot Coated LT headers and hi-flo cats LSR Short Throw Shifter Red Brembo Brakes, SSBrake lines, Castrol SRF, and Hawk HPS pads Tuned by Torq (405 RWHP and 389 RWTQ) Summit White GM GFX kit

05-29-2011, 07:39 AM	#5
formare Suspension by Pedders Drives: Synergy Edition 13.71@102 1.95 60' Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Chicagoland (Crown Point, IN) Posts: 1,914 View My Garage	A good start would be to have the key hole up on the dash where it belongs rather than on the column. Then we could get a push to start insert - just like the dodge boys have. On the dash and everything. Don't like the push to start - remove the "button" insert and presto a key hole for ya... __________________ My first Love. She was called "Miss Carriage" (still cry when I think about her) 383, Muncie 4 speed, custom linkage mated to hurst short throw shifter.

05-29-2011, 10:03 AM	#12
lbls1 Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2009 Malibu LT Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 793	No! __________________ '02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B '08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic '09 Malibu LT Dark Gray Metallic

05-29-2011, 11:07 AM	#15
Ron66Vette&10SS C5 Z06 Convert Drives: 66 L79 Corvette & 10 LS3 Camaro SS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Derby, Kansas Posts: 697	If you're talking about the keyless remote like on the Corvette......SURE! That would be kind of cool, but not necessary. If it's not already designed into it though, I would think it's too late. __________________ Previous Cars: '78 Z28, '92 Z28, '95 Z28, '85 Corvette, '01 SS, '96 Z28, '04 Z06 Corvette Current Cars: '66 Corvette (restoring), '04 Trailblazer (rain & snow), '10 SS (FOR SALE )

05-29-2011, 07:33 AM	#3
Blue Menace Drives: 2013 WRX Sedan Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 706	My fiance has one on her Challenger SRT8. Yes, they are very cool.

05-29-2011, 08:23 AM	#6
dannkimmel Drives: 1lt,rjt,m6 &2004 harley Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: kendall ny Posts: 96	seems pointless to me....if i still have to carry anything(key fob) then whats the point...i would prefer just a regular good ole key that would fit on my key chain with all the other keys...

05-29-2011, 08:26 AM	#7
Russell James Drives: '12 SS/RS LS3 IBM Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 3,316	Do not want. Had the passive entry/push button on a Vette and had multiple problems. Adds too much complexity and potential for problems both with the car and user error. Corvettes have been plagued with dead battery problems for years and a complex entry/start system just adds to those problems. Plus the hassle of what do you do with the keys while your driving. Put them in a bag that you forget in the car. Passenger walks away with the keys while you drive off with no way to restart the car after shut off. Keys wind up in golf bag in the back. Loan the car to someone, then expect a half a dozen calls throughout the day asking how to... Give me a key, key fob, key cylinder in the door, manual door handle.... and I'm happy. All that high tech entry and start crap is just way too problematic.

05-29-2011, 08:43 AM	#8
Shurenuff Drives: 2002 Nissan Altima Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 2,056	I honestly don't care either way. Would be a cool feature, but I definitely don't "have to have it". You can think of it as using a key goes with some of the other retro themes of the car

05-29-2011, 09:02 AM	#9
mondain Drives: toyota Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 298	I want it. I think the pushbutton start is kinda cool, even knowing all the heeadaches that can come along with it. Just as long as it doesn't suck like the BMW version, where you still have to stick the key into the dash AND push a button -- wtf is the point?! Use real RF technology and let me keep the fob in my pocket. It's also good for automatically locking your doors when you walk away, or unlocking them when you get really close. Also you can identify driver preset settings (seat position, mirrors, etc) based on the RF fob identification. Does it drain battery? Yes, a tiny bit, because the car is constantly sending out a heartbeat to identify the fobs, even while parked and turned off. There should be ways to disable this via the DIC or MyLink for when you park the car for the winter. For the driving season, where you might be driving every day/other day/few days, it will never drain the battery.

05-29-2011, 09:41 AM	#10
Blue Menace Drives: 2013 WRX Sedan Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 706	There are gonna be headaches on both sides. I was closing my car door yesterday and scratched the trim because I had the keys in my hand, facing out. Duh!!

05-29-2011, 11:13 AM	#16
vart Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 155 View My Garage	No way. We have a Nissan Murano with a push start and I hate it. I think what I hate most is that when I drop off my wife to shop and I wait in the car, I have to turn the whole car off and then push the button again to get to the auxiliary position to listen to the radio. I know it's only about 12 seconds without music, but it irks the hell out of me. A good "old fashioned" key just has to be turned back a nothch to do it. Also what was mentioned earlier about her going into the store and then after I park and turn off the car I can't re-start it because she has the keys in her purse. __________________ . . Got: Volant CAI. Stealth splash guards. Stainless Works 1-7/8" long tube headers and cat back exhaust. Pfadt coilovers, sway bars, rear trailing arms, street differential mounts and solid subframe bushings. Custom tuned by Davenport Motorsports. Want: Everything else!!!

05-29-2011, 11:26 AM	#17
Qdiesel Drives: 2011 Infiniti M56S, '04 Tahoe Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 170	How about just give me the car....I'll start it like Fred Flintstone if I have to, lol.

05-29-2011, 03:06 PM	#21
Qdiesel Drives: 2011 Infiniti M56S, '04 Tahoe Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 170	[QUOTE=MikeOD;3277124]Until you set the proximity thing down in the garage next to the car one day, and forget, then hop in the car, hit start, drive somewhere, shut it down, and you're stranded... QUOTE] It won't do that. Ours will not start unless its in the car, plus it will beep to holy heaven if you try to move without it.

05-29-2011, 05:07 PM	#25
Rock-It Man 376 cubic inches of fun Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS A6 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: MA Posts: 612 View My Garage	Engine start button? Who cares!

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