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Old 05-29-2011, 07:17 AM   #1
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Do you want a engine start button ?

in my opinion that would be really cool
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Old 05-29-2011, 07:22 AM   #2
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in my opinion that would be really cool
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Old 05-29-2011, 07:33 AM   #3
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My fiance has one on her Challenger SRT8. Yes, they are very cool.
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Old 05-29-2011, 07:37 AM   #4
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Yes, I agree 100%.
We shouldn't need keys, just a proximity sensor. My 2010 Nissan Armada has a small key fob that you keep in your pocket and you never need to pull it out. Just push start and off you go!
Keys are outdated.
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Old 05-29-2011, 07:39 AM   #5
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A good start would be to have the key hole up on the dash where it belongs rather than on the column. Then we could get a push to start insert - just like the dodge boys have. On the dash and everything. Don't like the push to start - remove the "button" insert and presto a key hole for ya...
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Old 05-29-2011, 08:23 AM   #6
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seems pointless to me....if i still have to carry anything(key fob)
then whats the point...i would prefer just a regular good ole key
that would fit on my key chain with all the other keys...
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Old 05-29-2011, 08:26 AM   #7
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Do not want. Had the passive entry/push button on a Vette and had multiple problems. Adds too much complexity and potential for problems both with the car and user error. Corvettes have been plagued with dead battery problems for years and a complex entry/start system just adds to those problems.

Plus the hassle of what do you do with the keys while your driving. Put them in a bag that you forget in the car. Passenger walks away with the keys while you drive off with no way to restart the car after shut off. Keys wind up in golf bag in the back. Loan the car to someone, then expect a half a dozen calls throughout the day asking how to...

Give me a key, key fob, key cylinder in the door, manual door handle.... and I'm happy. All that high tech entry and start crap is just way too problematic.
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Old 05-29-2011, 08:43 AM   #8
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I honestly don't care either way. Would be a cool feature, but I definitely don't "have to have it".

You can think of it as using a key goes with some of the other retro themes of the car
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Old 05-29-2011, 09:02 AM   #9
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I want it.

I think the pushbutton start is kinda cool, even knowing all the heeadaches that can come along with it.

Just as long as it doesn't suck like the BMW version, where you still have to stick the key into the dash AND push a button -- wtf is the point?! Use real RF technology and let me keep the fob in my pocket.

It's also good for automatically locking your doors when you walk away, or unlocking them when you get really close. Also you can identify driver preset settings (seat position, mirrors, etc) based on the RF fob identification.

Does it drain battery? Yes, a tiny bit, because the car is constantly sending out a heartbeat to identify the fobs, even while parked and turned off. There should be ways to disable this via the DIC or MyLink for when you park the car for the winter. For the driving season, where you might be driving every day/other day/few days, it will never drain the battery.
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Old 05-29-2011, 09:41 AM   #10
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There are gonna be headaches on both sides. I was closing my car door yesterday and scratched the trim because I had the keys in my hand, facing out. Duh!!
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Old 05-29-2011, 09:57 AM   #11
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There are gonna be headaches on both sides. I was closing my car door yesterday and scratched the trim because I had the keys in my hand, facing out. Duh!!
That sucks, but couldn't this same scenario happen with other objects in the hand or rings if one is not careful? I don't really see how you can blame the lack of push button start for this type of accident.
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Old 05-29-2011, 10:03 AM   #12
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Old 05-29-2011, 10:07 AM   #13
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in my opinion that would be really cool
What's so cool about that ????when you already have the fob that click at any time you want ???
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Old 05-29-2011, 10:57 AM   #14
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Do not want. Had the passive entry/push button on a Vette and had multiple problems. Adds too much complexity and potential for problems both with the car and user error. Corvettes have been plagued with dead battery problems for years and a complex entry/start system just adds to those problems.

Plus the hassle of what do you do with the keys while your driving. Put them in a bag that you forget in the car. Passenger walks away with the keys while you drive off with no way to restart the car after shut off. Keys wind up in golf bag in the back. Loan the car to someone, then expect a half a dozen calls throughout the day asking how to...

Give me a key, key fob, key cylinder in the door, manual door handle.... and I'm happy. All that high tech entry and start crap is just way too problematic.
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Old 05-29-2011, 11:07 AM   #15
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If you're talking about the keyless remote like on the Corvette......SURE!

That would be kind of cool, but not necessary. If it's not already designed into it though, I would think it's too late.
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Old 05-29-2011, 11:13 AM   #16
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No way. We have a Nissan Murano with a push start and I hate it. I think what I hate most is that when I drop off my wife to shop and I wait in the car, I have to turn the whole car off and then push the button again to get to the auxiliary position to listen to the radio. I know it's only about 12 seconds without music, but it irks the hell out of me. A good "old fashioned" key just has to be turned back a nothch to do it. Also what was mentioned earlier about her going into the store and then after I park and turn off the car I can't re-start it because she has the keys in her purse.
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Old 05-29-2011, 11:26 AM   #17
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How about just give me the car....I'll start it like Fred Flintstone if I have to, lol.
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Old 05-29-2011, 11:28 AM   #18
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Yes, I agree 100%.
We shouldn't need keys, just a proximity sensor. My 2010 Nissan Armada has a small key fob that you keep in your pocket and you never need to pull it out. Just push start and off you go!
Keys are outdated.
Until you set the proximity thing down in the garage next to the car one day, and forget, then hop in the car, hit start, drive somewhere, shut it down, and you're stranded...

The stock key is perfectly acceptable to me...I actually wish it were more old fashioned (read less expensive to replace, and also less likely to break than these VW/Audi switchblade things).
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Old 05-29-2011, 02:09 PM   #19
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Yes. Have it in my Lexus and like it very much. The Lexus system works very well.

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No way. We have a Nissan Murano with a push start and I hate it. I think what I hate most is that when I drop off my wife to shop and I wait in the car, I have to turn the whole car off and then push the button again to get to the auxiliary position to listen to the radio. I know it's only about 12 seconds without music, but it irks the hell out of me. A good "old fashioned" key just has to be turned back a nothch to do it. Also what was mentioned earlier about her going into the store and then after I park and turn off the car I can't re-start it because she has the keys in her purse.
Try leaving the transmission in N rather than P. If it's an auto. This is what I have to do in my Lexus to keep the acc on while turning the engine off.
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Old 05-29-2011, 02:33 PM   #20
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We have push button start in our 2011 camry and we love it! When ever we get in our other car I reach to push the button and then realize we don't have that feature in our jeep. I don't have to take the keys out to unlock the car or start it and that what I like the most about it!
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[QUOTE=MikeOD;3277124]Until you set the proximity thing down in the garage next to the car one day, and forget, then hop in the car, hit start, drive somewhere, shut it down, and you're stranded...

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It won't do that. Ours will not start unless its in the car, plus it will beep to holy heaven if you try to move without it.
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Until you set the proximity thing down in the garage next to the car one day, and forget, then hop in the car, hit start, drive somewhere, shut it down, and you're stranded...
This exactly happened to a friend of mine. He was working on his car in the garage. The key was on the table. He needed to go to AutoDiscount to get something. Goes there, shuts the engine and no way to get back. The dealer then changed something that the car would not turn off, if the key was not around.
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Old 05-29-2011, 03:59 PM   #23
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This exactly happened to a friend of mine. He was working on his car in the garage. The key was on the table. He needed to go to AutoDiscount to get something. Goes there, shuts the engine and no way to get back. The dealer then changed something that the car would not turn off, if the key was not around.

Wow. What kind of car was it, if I may ask? Our Infiniti and even our Caddy wouldn't do that....the range on theirs must be further.
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Wow. What kind of car was it, if I may ask? Our Infiniti and even our Caddy wouldn't do that....the range on theirs must be further.
When that happened, he had three cars (his a BMW 650, His wife's an Audi Q7 and his son BMW 135). I'm not sure which one, but I guess it was the 135 that he was working on.
His new Jag XK doesn't even start, if the key is more than 3 feet away, but I wonder what would happen if you start the car and take the key away from the car.
I'm not too crazy about keyless!
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Engine start button?

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