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Old 05-29-2011, 12:28 PM   #18
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Yes, I agree 100%.
We shouldn't need keys, just a proximity sensor. My 2010 Nissan Armada has a small key fob that you keep in your pocket and you never need to pull it out. Just push start and off you go!
Keys are outdated.
Until you set the proximity thing down in the garage next to the car one day, and forget, then hop in the car, hit start, drive somewhere, shut it down, and you're stranded...

The stock key is perfectly acceptable to me...I actually wish it were more old fashioned (read less expensive to replace, and also less likely to break than these VW/Audi switchblade things).
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Old 05-29-2011, 03:09 PM   #19
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Yes. Have it in my Lexus and like it very much. The Lexus system works very well.

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No way. We have a Nissan Murano with a push start and I hate it. I think what I hate most is that when I drop off my wife to shop and I wait in the car, I have to turn the whole car off and then push the button again to get to the auxiliary position to listen to the radio. I know it's only about 12 seconds without music, but it irks the hell out of me. A good "old fashioned" key just has to be turned back a nothch to do it. Also what was mentioned earlier about her going into the store and then after I park and turn off the car I can't re-start it because she has the keys in her purse.
Try leaving the transmission in N rather than P. If it's an auto. This is what I have to do in my Lexus to keep the acc on while turning the engine off.
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Old 05-29-2011, 03:33 PM   #20
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We have push button start in our 2011 camry and we love it! When ever we get in our other car I reach to push the button and then realize we don't have that feature in our jeep. I don't have to take the keys out to unlock the car or start it and that what I like the most about it!
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Old 05-29-2011, 04:06 PM   #21
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[QUOTE=MikeOD;3277124]Until you set the proximity thing down in the garage next to the car one day, and forget, then hop in the car, hit start, drive somewhere, shut it down, and you're stranded...

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It won't do that. Ours will not start unless its in the car, plus it will beep to holy heaven if you try to move without it.
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Old 05-29-2011, 04:18 PM   #22
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Until you set the proximity thing down in the garage next to the car one day, and forget, then hop in the car, hit start, drive somewhere, shut it down, and you're stranded...
This exactly happened to a friend of mine. He was working on his car in the garage. The key was on the table. He needed to go to AutoDiscount to get something. Goes there, shuts the engine and no way to get back. The dealer then changed something that the car would not turn off, if the key was not around.
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Old 05-29-2011, 04:59 PM   #23
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This exactly happened to a friend of mine. He was working on his car in the garage. The key was on the table. He needed to go to AutoDiscount to get something. Goes there, shuts the engine and no way to get back. The dealer then changed something that the car would not turn off, if the key was not around.

Wow. What kind of car was it, if I may ask? Our Infiniti and even our Caddy wouldn't do that....the range on theirs must be further.
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Old 05-29-2011, 06:03 PM   #24
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Wow. What kind of car was it, if I may ask? Our Infiniti and even our Caddy wouldn't do that....the range on theirs must be further.
When that happened, he had three cars (his a BMW 650, His wife's an Audi Q7 and his son BMW 135). I'm not sure which one, but I guess it was the 135 that he was working on.
His new Jag XK doesn't even start, if the key is more than 3 feet away, but I wonder what would happen if you start the car and take the key away from the car.
I'm not too crazy about keyless!
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Old 05-29-2011, 06:07 PM   #25
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Engine start button?

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Old 05-29-2011, 07:58 PM   #26
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Yeah, that and have the car drive itself too!!! How lazy can people get that they can't even turn a key?
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Old 05-29-2011, 09:30 PM   #27
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One more thing to break. I'd get rid of power windows if I could
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Old 05-29-2011, 09:35 PM   #28
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Old 05-29-2011, 09:56 PM   #29
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I turn my computer on with a button
I turn my tv on with a button
I turn my oven on with a button
I turn my radio on with a button

I turn my car on with a key

From the looks of things, I'm in the minority on this but I don't want my car to be like every other appliance that I own. I want to be reminded that it is a machine, not a device.
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Old 05-29-2011, 10:13 PM   #30
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To me, how the electrical connection is made to turn the starter over is very very low on my list of concerns. Turning a key is fine with me, I've been doing it all my life and really, it is functional and convienient with the various positions.
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Old 05-29-2011, 10:56 PM   #31
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While I am a big fan of keeping it simple, I understand those that want the keyless start, especially if others could be driving the car.

Look around the key entry of door (if not remote unlock) and even around the ignition location you may see a lot of scratches from people that aren't as careful as 99.9999% of the members of this forum.

Since i will be the only person to ever drive my ZL1, I would prefer it if GM goes with the simple/effective/most cost efficient.
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Old 05-29-2011, 11:00 PM   #32
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This group makes the push button start and someone on this website has got it on there car already.
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Old 05-30-2011, 09:58 AM   #33
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I think push button was cool 10 years ago when it was rare, now I just don't care. I liked the button on my s2000, that was a true push button like on a motorcycle. I wouldnt mind that one this car, but don't want a keyless one like the vettes and BMW etc
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Old 05-30-2011, 10:23 AM   #34
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just give me a key next people will want a button to open the front door on the house
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