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Old 05-31-2011, 08:38 AM   #51
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Bring back the crank.
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Old 05-31-2011, 08:47 AM   #52
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Not sure about a push button start but it would be sweet to remove the ignition switch from the column and put it in the dash.
I really like it in both my 67 camaro and my 99 vette.
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Old 05-31-2011, 01:45 PM   #53
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Push button start = easier to steal... don't get me wrong, I know they require the fob to be in a certain distance or even inside the car, but the wires are right next to the wheel, quick cut and the car is GONE! My LEO neighbor asked if I had that and I said no, he was relieved as they get calls about the push button cars all the time.
I doubt that they are any less or more easier to steal. Just different.
And it doesn't seem to matter how you start your car it will still get stolen, metal key or not.
The thing to remember is neither method is a theft deterrent, if someone wants your car having a old fashioned metal key isn't going to slow them down one bit. Car thieves are so good they can walk up to your car, get in and drive away and you would think they did have a key.
And this I've seen with my own eyes.
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Old 05-31-2011, 01:46 PM   #54
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so i still need to bring my house key with me when i leave so i still would have keys but now they will be in pocket instead on hinging in the ignition much rather have them out of my pocket. maybe i am just used to a key
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Old 06-06-2011, 07:51 PM   #55
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My favorite part is hearing it turn on. I couldn't care less whether it's a button, a key, or a freaking crank!!
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Old 06-06-2011, 08:57 PM   #56
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No button. Wall where I hang my keys (or potential fob) is too close to the garage/driveway. Don't want my car wandering away at night.
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Old 06-06-2011, 10:07 PM   #57
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No button. Wall where I hang my keys (or potential fob) is too close to the garage/driveway. Don't want my car wandering away at night.
A proper set up, like my Lexus, will not allow it to start unless the fob is in the car. My Lexus will only start if the fob is in the car. It won't work anywhere out of the car even if you're standing right next to it. It also won't lock the fob in the car.
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Old 06-06-2011, 10:11 PM   #58
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You guys need to give Chevrolet a chance to improve. If they made a Camaro with every feature imaginable then, there be no place to improve for future models. Sure a remote start button would be nice but don't expect it anytime soon.

If you want that feature, sure go for the Challenger. Then you'll be saying you wish you had your keys to start your car...
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Old 06-06-2011, 10:33 PM   #59
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You guys need to give Chevrolet a chance to improve. If they made a Camaro with every feature imaginable then, there be no place to improve for future models. Sure a remote start button would be nice but don't expect it anytime soon.

If you want that feature, sure go for the Challenger. Then you'll be saying you wish you had your keys to start your car...
You can already get remote start on the Camaro.

Keyless ignition perhaps?
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Old 06-07-2011, 03:51 PM   #60
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Old 06-07-2011, 06:54 PM   #61
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Old 06-07-2011, 08:12 PM   #62
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Old 06-07-2011, 09:26 PM   #63
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Yes, I really like the one in my vette. no keys, locks and opens itself. Starts every time the fob is in the car.
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Old 06-07-2011, 09:48 PM   #64
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best system is the key fob proximity sensor with a turn ignition. Infiniti has this. That way if your key fob runs out of battery you just pull out the key from the key fob and insert into the turn ignition. Also, the turn ignition allows multi-level power settings.
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Old 06-08-2011, 07:48 PM   #65
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i am 99% done with the install of mine, no keys , just a credit card sized fob, doors lock and unlock automaticly, real pain in the a#$ to get set up gonna post a write up and some pics hopefully by fri after i button it up...im 3 weeks into it and over a grand....worth the aggrivation in my opinion have a back up card that gets scanned incase of battery failure in fob.....i also relocated the ignition key and switch and hid in the car if all else fails key still would work
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Old 06-08-2011, 07:59 PM   #66
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My co-workers asked me if I had a remote start when I got "ESS." I told them, no. I mentioned to them that I had a ("clutch start" button). You put in the key turn it to the on position and depress the clutch. One guy asked me if this was a new thing. LOL
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Old 06-09-2011, 12:15 AM   #67
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Bring back the crank.
Damn right!!!! Less weight, and fewer parts to break
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Old 06-09-2011, 12:17 AM   #68
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Old 06-11-2011, 08:17 PM   #69
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Uhm, guys. RFD

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Old 06-11-2011, 08:48 PM   #70
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What does RFD mean?

Unless you're talking about word below Camaro on the key tag which I'm pretty sure says red.
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Old 06-11-2011, 09:16 PM   #71
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radio freq... it senses the presence of the card or key and allows the car to be started when the correct rf key is in range...problem is some of the rf offer good range like 6-10 feet so if the card is left on the work bench when cara is parked in garage you can get in and start it and drive away...only to shut off and be left stranded....the system i installed i actually relocated the fact key cyl to a spot in the car and hid a key so if all else fail i can still start up also have a back up card in wallet with built in "barcode override" that gets scanned to allow doors to open and car to start with no rf key.....im pretty covered...alot of people dont like them , say they are for people too lazy to turn a key. its diffrent, i love it no key in pockets, nothing to carry...i actually want to do another one in my 2 work trucks cause its a pleasure...
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Old 06-11-2011, 09:19 PM   #72
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i get the stupidity award for not reading the prev posts....my bad..
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Old 06-12-2011, 12:57 AM   #73
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What does RFD mean?

Unless you're talking about word below Camaro on the key tag which I'm pretty sure says red.
You're probably right now that I see it. My mind just went to RFD (Radio Frequency Device) as a shortened version of RFID (Radio Frequency Identification), which is used in a lot of applications, notably to start your engine with a button & proximity sensor.

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/RFID

If I was wrong, then I plead that my mind was corrupted by too many TLAs (Three Letter Acronyms) from being around the military for 20 years.


In any case, I asked Allanski about the start mechanism and hopefully we'll know what we're dealing with very soon.


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my daily driver BMW has one. i love it.
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Old 06-12-2011, 01:21 AM   #75
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An engine start button is a relatively low priority for me with regard to the ZL1. Performance is much more important to me than having an engine start button. I'm willing to insert and turn a key. It's all about trade offs for me, and I'd like to see every last engineering effort put in to maximizing performance, rather than putting it into to "cool" marketing features. That's just my opinion.
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