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Old 05-29-2011, 11:31 AM   #1
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Need Advice: Get Rear Sway Bar Only? Or Get Front and Rear Bars?

Hello all - I need some advice. I'm wanting to upgrade the handling of my 2SS/RS by installing - at the least - a Pfadt balance rear sway bar. Now, I do NOT do any racing - I use my Camaro as my daily driver and I'm simply wanting to improve the handling and correct the understeer. Should I just do the rear sway bar, or should I get the Pfadt front and rear sports bars? Any help would be appreciated.
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The rear only versus the front and rear set is one of those better/best situations. For the kind of use you are describing the Pfadt Balance bar is a great option. It is engineered to work with the stock front sway bar to provide the proper stiffness to dial out under-steer.
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Old 05-29-2011, 12:27 PM   #3
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I put the Pfadt front/rear sway bars on my Camaro. Makes a huge difference, definitely worth doing.
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Old 05-29-2011, 03:10 PM   #4
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The front and rear set versus the rear only is one of those better/best situations. For the kind of use you are describing the Pfadt Balance bar is a great option. It is engineered to work with the stock front sway bar to provide the proper stiffness to dial out under-steer.
I'm assuming that getting the front and rear set is the best situation - even for a strictly street driver?
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Old 05-29-2011, 03:11 PM   #5
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I put the Pfadt front/rear sway bars on my Camaro. Makes a huge difference, definitely worth doing.
camarobh - did you get both because you do some racing? Or is your Camaro strictly a street-driving, daily driver?
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Old 05-29-2011, 03:17 PM   #6
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Got both front and rear Pdaft swaybars

I don't race other than occasionally taking a few hot laps at a local road course. I got both the front and the rear and love what it did to the handling of the car. My only caveat is that it did make the ride a little harsher. But it's not unusual to trade a little comfort for performamnce.
How about Pfadt. Mispelled in the header.
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Old 05-29-2011, 06:36 PM   #7
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camarobh - did you get both because you do some racing? Or is your Camaro strictly a street-driving, daily driver?
Daily driver with limited track time. As mentioned in another post, the ride is firmer, but it feels great.
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I'm assuming that getting the front and rear set is the best situation - even for a strictly street driver?
Correct. There is no reason why the front and rear Sport Adjustable sway bars can not be used strictly on the street. I would say 95+% of our Pfadt sway bar customers go with them. The charts below demonstrate the roll stiffness of stock versus the various Pfadt offerings. If you have any questions feel free to shoot me a PM.



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Old 05-30-2011, 07:26 AM   #9
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Hey guys...any pics of these bars...front and rear.

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Hey guys...any pics of these bars...front and rear.

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Here you go.

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Thanks for the pics...what is your price for both...typically how long to install?

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Thanks for the pics...what is your price for both...typically how long to install?

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The Pfadt Balance Bar is $285 shipped and the Sport Adjustable Sway Bars are $425 shipped. The Balance Bar is about a 30-45 minute install, the Sport Adjustable sway bars are about 1.5 hours.
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The Pfadt Balance Bar is $285 shipped and the Sport Adjustable Sway Bars are $425 shipped. The Balance Bar is about a 30-45 minute install, the Sport Adjustable sway bars are about 1.5 hours.
Chase - other posts are talking about a lot of noise occurring after the install of Pfadt products. Will there be this noise after installing a balance rear sway bar?
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Old 05-31-2011, 05:45 PM   #14
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Chase - other posts are talking about a lot of noise occurring after the install of Pfadt products. Will there be this noise after installing a balance rear sway bar?
Our sway bars properly installed do not make extra noise. We have a ton of extremely happy customers who put their cars through all kinds of different road conditions and are extremely pleased with how transparent our springs and sway bars are. The only thing you should hear after installing our sway bars is the sound of your passenger being pinned to the door in a hard left hander.
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Our sway bars properly installed do not make extra noise. We have a ton of extremely happy customers who put their cars through all kinds of different road conditions and are extremely pleased with how transparent our springs and sway bars are. The only thing you should hear after installing our sway bars is the sound of your passenger being pinned to the door in a hard left hander.
+1 I have not encountered any noise problems with any Pfadt products.
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Old 06-01-2011, 07:22 AM   #16
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Chase - other posts are talking about a lot of noise occurring after the install of Pfadt products. Will there be this noise after installing a balance rear sway bar?
When it comes right down to it, all manufacturers have had noise issues but it's not the sways. 99% of the time is seems to be the endlinks. Not being tightened properly or in my case, just gone out. The other 1% is lack of lube or not timing the bushings when drop springs were added.

If you're talking road noise, that's a product of replacing all your soft rubber insulating bushings with harder ones. The harder they are and the more you replace, the more road noise will be transmitted through the suspension and into the cabin. You can get away with doing a few without too much extra noise but there's a point in which there isn't enough noise insulation. Typically, if you're replacing that many bushings, a little extra road noise isn't a concern.

I don't have any added road noise with my Pfadt sways, springs, and endlinks. Now the crappy P-zero's are another story.
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:54 AM   #17
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+1 I have not encountered any noise problems with any Pfadt products.
+2 - I've had Pfadt Sport Sway Bars/Endlinks/Rear Trailing Arms/Coilovers on since last Spring and they're as quiet as Stock. I do recommend checking the torque on the Front Endlinks a few weeks after install and on service afterwards to avoid any noise from them.

OP - Get Both Front and Rear + Endlinks at the same time - that's how I started and noticed the difference in curves/cloverleaves immediately. Then add other suspension upgrades when budget allows.

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... I don't have any added road noise with my Pfadt sways, springs, and endlinks. Now the crappy P-zero's are another story.
+1 on the crappy P-Zeros - my winter Bridgestone Blizzaks are quieter than the summar tires.
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