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Old 05-27-2011, 08:44 PM   #1
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shorty headers?

Is it worth it to put shorty headers on a 2011 V6? im a college student so im on a budget....
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Old 05-27-2011, 09:05 PM   #2
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Yes and no. While shorty's will give you gains, the gains will be no where as big compared to LT. Though LT need a tune for you to get the full potential out of them. So question is, are you going for numbers here? or do you just want more sound?
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Old 05-27-2011, 09:10 PM   #3
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You'll get more responses if you post this up in the V6 section.

To answer your question, shorty headers are a waste of money. Since you're on a budget you should save your money until you can spring for the long tubes.
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Old 05-27-2011, 09:42 PM   #4
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You'll get more responses if you post this up in the V6 section.

To answer your question, shorty headers are a waste of money. Since you're on a budget you should save your money until you can spring for the long tubes.
Not true. They do work and well on the v6 for what you pay for and on the v6 you would get 6-8 hp and more bottom end torque which is helpful on this car, and better sound. Legal in Kali also. The Lt's will get more power, about 10 more on top and best for that but the cost is also alot more and a tune is needed also.

And yes go to the v6 section. more info there.
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Old 05-27-2011, 09:47 PM   #5
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save up for long tubes.. just wait a little longer instead of getting shorties, youll end up switching to long tubes anyways.. i love my long tubes and i got great gains.. with long tubes and a tune i got around 30rwhp
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Old 05-27-2011, 11:55 PM   #6
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what happens to the cats when you add long tube headers? You remove them or just move them back?
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what happens to the cats when you add long tube headers? You remove them or just move them back?
You have to get cats that work with the LT headers. The OEM cats won't fit.
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Old 05-28-2011, 05:51 AM   #8
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what happens to the cats when you add long tube headers? You remove them or just move them back?
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You have to get cats that work with the LT headers. The OEM cats won't fit.
This. Most LT headers have an option to include high flow cats.

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the cats stay there, like Apex said, they usually all come wit options with their own hi flow cats. you can opt not to have cats too but theres goods and bads about that.
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Old 05-28-2011, 08:50 AM   #10
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..be aware that LTs will require a tune(bye bye warranty), should you need to take it back to the dealer for any problem..have money saved up for this?
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Old 05-28-2011, 06:18 PM   #11
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As a college student who also is on a budget, I know the feeling. I went with Doug Thorley's. Overall quality, power, and price were my factors. I got them for $309 shipped. However, it was another $300 to get them installed. So, there's a lot to think about; but, I'm happy everytime I nail the gas I got DTs.
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Old 05-28-2011, 08:58 PM   #12
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As a college student who also is on a budget, I know the feeling. I went with Doug Thorley's. Overall quality, power, and price were my factors. I got them for $309 shipped. However, it was another $300 to get them installed. So, there's a lot to think about; but, I'm happy everytime I nail the gas I got DTs.
Good point there. Most shops will charge you probably 3-4 hours labor, maybe more for the install.
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Old 05-29-2011, 08:42 AM   #13
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..be aware that LTs will require a tune(bye bye warranty), should you need to take it back to the dealer for any problem..have money saved up for this?
Not entirely true. Some dealers could care less and it would only be an issue for them if the warranty work was expensive enough to have to be approved by GM.
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Old 05-29-2011, 04:04 PM   #14
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Not entirely true. Some dealers could care less and it would only be an issue for them if the warranty work was expensive enough to have to be approved by GM.
A specific dealership might not care, but if you ever have to go to another one.. might be screwed. And once it's voided doesn't matter what dealership you go to I would assume.
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I think I read something about Doug Thorley LT headers being designed. Am I remembering wrong?
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Old 05-30-2011, 02:36 PM   #16
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You would be correct! Just gonna take time.
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I got the DT Shorties and absolutely love them. You can defintely feel better throttle response and more power in the lower RPM range. But damn the sound is awesone!!! I have electric exhaust cutouts as well. And when you open them up with the headers it sounds like a mean ass V8!!
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You would be correct! Just gonna take time.
They got their car, did some initial measurements and testing, and that's the last I've been told so far. I'll call and get an update for us and keep everyone posted.

But like KM mentioned, it's still going to be a bit. I'd be surprised if they were in production in the next 6 months. Really surprised.

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I got the DT Shorties and absolutely love them. You can defintely feel better throttle response and more power in the lower RPM range. But damn the sound is awesone!!! I have electric exhaust cutouts as well. And when you open them up with the headers it sounds like a mean ass V8!!
Agreed. We have a really clean setup on a local car (TMac's) and his V6 DT car sounds a hell of a lot better than a large percentage of the V8 cars running around here! No joke. His setup is sweet and sounds very good.

Perhaps now is the time to post up a video Chris........

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They got their car, did some initial measurements and testing, and that's the last I've been told so far. I'll call and get an update for us and keep everyone posted.

But like KM mentioned, it's still going to be a bit. I'd be surprised if they were in production in the next 6 months. Really surprised.



Agreed. We have a really clean setup on a local car (TMac's) and his V6 DT car sounds a hell of a lot better than a large percentage of the V8 cars running around here! No joke. His setup is sweet and sounds very good.

Perhaps now is the time to post up a video Chris........

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lol thanks Ivan the DT shorties sound awesome! (insert video here)
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Just shorties alone might not make a huge difference (and probably wouldn't be my first mod) but they seem to play well with my Injen intake and Corsa exhaust
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Yes and no. While shorty's will give you gains, the gains will be no where as big compared to LT. Though LT need a tune for you to get the full potential out of them. So question is, are you going for numbers here? or do you just want more sound?
There's also the inspection issue. Shorties you don't have to worry about.
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Long Tubes visibly void the warranty. It's like putting a big red neon sign in your engine compartment if you ever take it to the dealership. As long as I've got my factory warranty still in place, the Shorties are what I'm going to use. They aren't as big an improvement as the LT's, but they are worth the cost and do help the overall power curve as well as allowing all the other mods work together.

If your on a budget, get the Shorties and enjoy them!
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Long Tubes visibly void the warranty. It's like putting a big red neon sign in your engine compartment if you ever take it to the dealership. As long as I've got my factory warranty still in place, the Shorties are what I'm going to use. They aren't as big an improvement as the LT's, but they are worth the cost and do help the overall power curve as well as allowing all the other mods work together.

If your on a budget, get the Shorties and enjoy them!
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